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Old 07-21-2006 | 08:30 PM
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Dignlivn,

Sounds like he means on the west side, by the post office. Is that right Navihawk? Go south on Tradeport Drive?

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Old 07-21-2006 | 08:35 PM
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bfbcacid

Thanks for that! I spent at least 6 trips un doing the canopy and adjusting tonight. I am getting
this NEW 4n1 close, but i'm still not happy but thats what makes it a challenge. I still hate the tail
set up ( stock one ) on these birds.

Zoo

Is it possible to have tooo much + pitch ?? i don't have a pitch gauge (yet)
or that may be one of my problems.

Bob

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Are the blades level or slightly - at 0 throttle in normal mode? If you have too much + pitch landings will be slow and difficult. I use a little - pitch in low throttle normal mode to keep from tipping over when I "arrive" haha
Old 07-21-2006 | 09:33 PM
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Correct ,south on tradeport.
Old 07-21-2006 | 09:49 PM
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Are the blades level or slightly - at 0 throttle in normal mode?
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No, I have a small amount of + pitch at 0 throttle in the norm mode.


olrbuzz

the west side ok, that would be on the old AFB. side and the south part was where the kept
the B52's cargo I think back in _____ . That would be a great area. But I can imagine the heat
from the tarmac to the east would be even hotter than Fla. is already.
My new 4n1 is coming along slowly, but it's still FUN!!!!

Bob

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Old 07-21-2006 | 10:08 PM
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I have a question.... I am thinking about buying the [link=http://www.helihobby.com/html/eflight_blade_cp.html]All-Metal Bell-Hiller Head System for CP2 Blade CP [/link] . I believe this will increase stability and performance as well as remove any problems with the sticky problems that may come up again. Please let me know if anyone is fimiliar or recommends this.

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Yes it's pretty and will add some stability. What it will add more of is responsiveness. While that sounds great, it's the newbies menace. That's why it's so easy to fly with training gear. Slows everything down. I highly recommend B/H, but keep it cheap unless you just can't stand it not to bling it out. Once you get to a point you're flying loops and stuff you've got to know you're gonna get a Trex or something and keep the bcp for indoor flight. No matter what you do to this bird, unless you really want to be a test pilot and go for the belt driven tail (IMO also not worth the hastle), it will always have the tail motor to deal with and you'll get tired of it. Ok, now I've spouted off. Somebody elses turn to counter the other side of the debate. You know you want to, go ahead. I love my blade, love to fly it. It knows it's place and does it well.

Bob--in answer to your Q about pitch, the main thing to watch for is that the pitch at an appropriate time is in line with the throttle curve. Too much pitch with too low head speed won't work, it will just bog. And if you exceed 10 degrees at full throttle it will do the same. What I do is pull the motor leads, throw it in idle up, center throttle and then line up the blades with the flybar. If you do that it should make everything fall in line so that in normal mode you'll have pretty much zero pitch at zero throttle and in idle up you'l have +10 / -10. Hope that helps.
Old 07-21-2006 | 10:17 PM
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Just thought of something about you guys with sticky problems. One of my first mods was the metal swash. Highly worth the investment. Again, just my (and about a million others) opinion.
Old 07-21-2006 | 10:46 PM
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Anyone flying the Blade in/near Peachtree City, GA? It would be cool to get some blade fliers together in one of the local parks.

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Old 07-22-2006 | 08:22 AM
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Hey orlbuzz im heading out to the R/C World 'Farewell Fly-In' today. Just letting you know in case you want to go check it out too. If you dont know where it. Go east on lk underhill and turn right on dean rd(south). And turn left on rc world blvs. If you need a map you can check it out here. http://www.rcworld.org/maplarge.gif
Old 07-22-2006 | 08:25 AM
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Quote What I do is pull the motor leads, throw it in idle up, center throttle and then line up the blades with the flybar.


Thanks for reminding me of that. I will check/do that today.


Bob

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Old 07-22-2006 | 08:55 AM
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Navihawk,

I appreciate the offer, but I have about an acre to mow. Too bad about RC World, I guess there just weren't enough modelers to buy the homes? Too many noise complaints? I just heard about it closing last week.

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Old 07-22-2006 | 02:58 PM
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bfbcacid

Thanks for that! I spent at least 6 trips un doing the canopy and adjusting tonight. I am getting
this NEW 4n1 close, but i'm still not happy but thats what makes it a challenge. I still hate the tail
set up ( stock one ) on these birds.

Zoo

Is it possible to have tooo much + pitch ?? i don't have a pitch gauge (yet)
or that may be one of my problems.

Bob

dignlivn
This little mod may help you.... Take a drill bit a bit bigger then the size of screw driver you are using to adjust you gain and propor and make two holes in the side of the canopy level with the pots you are adjusting. Then use the holes to adjust 4 in 1 and no more taking the canopy off to adjust... I saw this on the videos I found and posted on this site and man it saves some much time..

I read that too much pitch is a bad thing in non throttle up mode I have about 9 degrees of pitch but I heard that 11 degrees is where you want to be no more then 11... Just a note... Being I am still a beginer please take this advice as so.

Thank You,
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Old 07-22-2006 | 04:10 PM
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Just wondering if anybody got the cp pro yet?I saw one web site that claims they have them.
Old 07-22-2006 | 05:57 PM
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The Pro isn't out yet. Horizon is the distributor and their website says earlly August. I have a deposit on one at my LHS, was in there Thursday the 20th, and they said one to two weeks. Who is saying they have them?

I saw one post that said that Horizon won't sell online until their customers, (the LHSs) receive them. That makes sense, but I don't know if it's true.

I know I'm ready for mine!!! I've read all these posts, plus lots of other info, and I'm ready to try it out! RealFlight gets RealBoring after a while. On that subject, I found a Trex for G2 and G3 somewhere in this string, I think, that the creator said behaved very similar to the BCP. Has anyone that has a blade and G2 tried that model? I would like your opinion on how it compares.

Waiting for Christmas,
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Old 07-22-2006 | 08:38 PM
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bfbcacid

Thanks for the Good advice.

Bob

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Old 07-22-2006 | 08:42 PM
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https://www.wholesaletrains.com/.
The way I understand it,they don't say they don't have it.
Old 07-22-2006 | 08:44 PM
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orlbuzz

Sorry to hear Horizon has you in a in circling pattern...


Bob

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Old 07-22-2006 | 09:11 PM
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I think theyre just building hype then after they think enough people are insane about it coming out theyll release it. And I bet my butt theyre keeping it in Area 51
Old 07-22-2006 | 11:41 PM
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Old 07-23-2006 | 12:00 AM
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I found a Trex for G2 and G3 somewhere in this string, I think, that the creator said behaved very similar to the BCP. Has anyone that has a blade and G2 tried that model? I would like your opinion on how it compares.

Waiting for Christmas,
Do you have 2 or 3? You need add-ons four for my Trex in both versions and add-ons five to use lipos in G2. Christmas!!!!

Just another tidbit, you can set your proportion and gain without the canopy. The only thing the canopy throws off is CG, shouldn't affect the gyro.

cfossa---isn't Peachtree City in the Atlanta area? There are tons of flyers in that area. They may not necessarily fly blades, but heli flyers are a very freindly group. Ask at the lhs's and somebody will hook you up.
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Zooland1 or

Could you enlighten an ole man about how the Gyro in these birds works ??

Thanks

Bob

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Old 07-23-2006 | 11:39 AM
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The gyro (as far as this ole man can explain) in the blade is a piezo gyro. Basically all it does is try to maintain a relationship between the main rotors and tail so that when the rotors are at a certain rpm the tail automatically compensates. It does not lock in on a bearing (compass point, not steel bearing) the way a heading hold gyro does. Hence the name heading hold. So if the blade gets hit by a gust of wind, or even excessive rotor wash, it will just turn with the wind. That's why you are constantly controlling the tail, which in itself is good training. An HH gyro does it's best to lock on a heading and if a gust of wind hits it, it will try to compensate and return to that bearing on it's own. An HH gyro reacts to stick input.
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hmm...ok heres a question with the gyros...ive got a cp pro on super backorder lol...so im gettin a bunch of spares and upgrades lined up for it in my toolbox...after i do a little practice with holding the tail myself with the stock setup id like to move onto a HH gyro since it says is compatible with HH gyros without swappin everything out...basically what it comes down to is do i rly have to pay 145 dollars for the futaba gy401 or will a cheaper one do the same thing? any recomendations?
Old 07-23-2006 | 12:22 PM
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hmm...ok heres a question with the gyros...ive got a cp pro on super backorder lol...so im gettin a bunch of spares and upgrades lined up for it in my toolbox...after i do a little practice with holding the tail myself with the stock setup id like to move onto a HH gyro since it says is compatible with HH gyros without swappin everything out...basically what it comes down to is do i rly have to pay 145 dollars for the futaba gy401 or will a cheaper one do the same thing? any recomendations?
[link]http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=EFLRG90HL[/link]
[link]http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXKTT2&P=ML[/link]

These are the right size but may not be true heading hold gyros.

I believe you also have to swap the 4 in 1 for this 2 in 1
[link]http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=EFLH1039[/link]

Zoo and others, is this not correct?
Old 07-23-2006 | 01:48 PM
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Zooland1

Thanks for the info, so it does not matter if the ground you are taking off from is level ?? or
if the 4n1 is pefectly level sitting on the plastic mount ??

Thanks again!

Bob

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Old 07-23-2006 | 05:41 PM
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I believe it only sees rotation of the helicopter, and doesn't care about level. But if the 4-in-1 is on its side, then anytime you lean forward the heli will spin. But if its reletivly level to the mount it should be ok.


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