LMAO...Oh, he's buying the parts. I just used my CC because it's faster and he's putting the $$$ back. He's working all weekend, the parts will be here Sat/Mon (gotta love ole JAG hobbies). I told him to bring it over Mon/Tue, I'll watch him fix it and I'll make sure everything is setup properly and test hop it. I'm walking away from the idleup for a spell. The loose plug on the gyro....I shoulda caught that before I did, so I'm tired. I just now got the HHG responding as advertised, and jump right into another bag of worms....I'll take a break. It's fun to fly this heli without adjusting rudder trim as the battery goes. With the HHG doing it's job, I can see after todays session out door, I'm ready to advance beyond std forward flight. I did a lot of ff nose in, flying right over my head back and forth. The HHG makes me very comfortable with flying it a little harder.

Well the little tail bob is gone...Ended up just being the cold weather...Lol..Had me stumped for a bit, cause the spindle was still new, and it wasn't doing it yesterday...! I still think the blade grips are to tight but I'am not messing with with it. (If it ain't broken don't mess with it) There is just NO movement when you grab the grips and try and pull with a lateral movement side to side. Could take out a shim, but I think there is only one on each side anyway. Either way I'am happy with the performance of it currently.


Fossoman--

Welcome.... I've came across your readings before in the past...Nice to see your doing O.K... Door is always open for you...

Everyone take care,


-- Jeff

Crashcrash,

Your lucky and so is the son. The son IS paying you back, that's lucky. And your son's lucky that he has a father that takes the time and interest with him, plus your knowledge base, he's got a win win situation with the helis.

Gyro plug, I never would have notice that it was loose, if I hadn't posted that picture. So much for my DETAILED P-M. LOL! Man learn stuff everyday, my sad part is, I work slowly on the heli all the time, so it is just perfect.

Later,
Dave / Choppersrule
LMAO...Oh, he's buying the parts. I just used my CC because it's faster and he's putting the $$$ back. He's working all weekend, the parts will be here Sat/Mon (gotta love ole JAG hobbies). I told him to bring it over Mon/Tue, I'll watch him fix it and I'll make sure everything is setup properly and test hop it. I'm walking away from the idleup for a spell. The loose plug on the gyro....I shoulda caught that before I did, so I'm tired. I just now got the HHG responding as advertised, and jump right into another bag of worms....I'll take a break. It's fun to fly this heli without adjusting rudder trim as the battery goes. With the HHG doing it's job, I can see after todays session out door, I'm ready to advance beyond std forward flight. I did a lot of ff nose in, flying right over my head back and forth. The HHG makes me very comfortable with flying it a little harder.
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J-MICHAEL,

The cold weather is tuff on the helis. Makes all the parts start to contract after awhile and can give all sorts or wierd problems. Soo, when flying in the cold weather and it starts acting stupid on ya. Don't blame the heli or yourself, just old man winter.

As far as the rotor head, if you move the flybar paddle up and down, thru it's full range. And there's no binding and no hard resistance, you fine and dandy. Oh, that's in the house, not in the cold.

Dave / Choppersrule
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You guys are right about being lucky that your sons are interested in what your doing. I've always had a passion for anything that takes to the air large, small, living and man made. My son could care less. I've got AFPD and if I had this when I was a kid I would have worn the sticks out on it. He used it once. I bought him an Aerobird commander once and we flew it together twice. I'm hoping someday he'll come around. At least we have common sports intrests

God Bless All!

Jay

Since my son is a Navy brat and I've been flying R/C since the mid 80's, and he's been to every airshow that's been held while he was there....yeah, he might have an interest (LOL).

Radioflyer,

Hmmmm, hard for me to say this, however, we are all different in our likes and dislikes. I understand how you may feel about your son. If they aren't bad kids, maybe bend alittle and take interest in there needs. Gaaawwwd, I have two girls, off and married now and have grandkids. However, I can say this, when they were little, I played "Barbie Dolls" with them and not ashamed of that either.
I love them to death. And to this day, they thank me for being with them so much. Now, they're 28 and 30 years old. Family , togetherness is soooo, important. I have a super grand-daughter, that I would die for. that's how much I love her. Gettin' mushy here.

Later Jay,
Dave / Choppersrule

Crashcrash,

You're a lucky guy. You've seen my earlier post, I have two girls and when they were little girls, I played "Barbie Doll" LMFAO...
Sometimes I crack myself up. Still LOL,, "Barbie Dolls"???????

Dave / Choppersrule
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Lookyj,

I'm trying to keep up with ya! Yep, broke another set of blades. NOT on the POOL table. It was the DARN bookcase! Big hunk of wood out of one of the blades.

Soo, the GY401 test, on the HBK2, is off for a couple days, till I get some blades.

Dave / Choppersrule

Dave--


Lol... I hear ya...! I swear I break more heli stuff indoors than I would outside... It's in our starving nature to fly our heli's with the bad weather at hand, and sometimes it involves flying the cramped quarters inside...


To All:


Got the Trex into a slow move-around in the yard today. Better than yesterday's CPP forward flight attempt. Broken woodie, spindle, main shaft, and retaining pin...LMAO..! Tried to mimic the good video like the one above...Yeah right..!! But the Trex became a success today however...Looks promising for the future.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULwp61xOnaE


Have a good one guys,


-- Jeff

J-MICHAEL,

I watched your video, you're doing excellent my friend. However, I had a hunch, that you crashed, because you cut the video short and didn't want us to see that. Hey, on your next crash, keep it in the vid. We've all done that. Duh!

Take care Jeff,

Dave / Choppersrule [sm=wink_smile.gif]

Dave--

LMAO...! Actually, I spared lucky... No crash, it's just that You-Tube only allowed a 100mb limit. The movie was 108mb total...I only flew probably half the pack, as my stomach was uneasy from being nervous flying it...Lol.. That's why the camera is a tad shaky also...! Excited, nervous, still confident though, uneasy, looking at those pretty $55.00 CF mains and staring at them like that could be there last flight...Lol..

O.K. Back to CPP surgery...Nothin' gettin done, RCU addiction...Lol..

Take care,

-- Jeff

P.S. Told ya I'am always watching.....

J-MICHAEL,

Sorry for jumpin' the gun on a crash. I should have know better, seen all your vids. Didn't know about the 100mb limit. I've got a cam corder and have a couple, okay videos, doing stupid stuff in the basement. But I need to get a Firewire card for the old/new computer. With all the other stuff going on, it's down the road too.(Darn) You're on the right track and eventually the jitters will go away. Push it, but not tooo much. I see you too, EVERYWHERE!

Dave / Choppersrule[sm=wink_smile.gif]

Hi Guys,
I can do this, sure, in my wildest dreams. Awesome!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPBOt82t610

Dave / Choppersrule

JUST BEFORE THE NEW YEAR
Here I am, NEEDING HELP

Flew both the HBK 2 s with the 1500 mAh and did real well with both. RUSTY ROBERTSON strongly suggested that the batteries are a tad TOO HEAVY and if I returned to the 1100 mAh the flight would get MUCH BETTER.

So I changed back to 1100 on the White HBK 2.......and experienced something NEW and TROUBLESOME..... when the Heli gets AIRBORNE it goes into a SHAKING in the longitudinal sense, something like a BUCKING HORSE !!!!
to explain further, it seems to dip forward and flip backwards in quick movements, like shaking. Can't find better words to explain. If this is NEW to y'all I may do a TAPE of this problem.

ANYBODY KNOW WHAT THIS IS ABOUT ? Today is DEAD CALM and I am going to try the Yellow one, both with the 1500 AND the 1100 after that.

Facing DAYS OFF until next WED. and the G/F lady is here in the house, so it's HELI TIME........ ...............RICK

Hi ya Rick! With the Blade CP's the horse bucking or "bobbing" you mention was attributed to the feathering shaft being too tight. Or sometimes the cold would affect it. Does the heli shake like that with the 1500 mAh battery too or just the 1100 mAh one?
Crash will most likely be responding quickly, he is the resident head setup expert for those. I may be completely wrong but I just assume the symptoms regardless of brand usually mean the same issue and fix. Have you tried checking the tightness of the blade grips? Is there a sticky spot on either one with the dogbone links removed? Lubrication may be all thats needed or adjustment of the 2 5.5mm nuts on the feathering shaft. Just my guess old friend......hope it helps.


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Of all the things I ever lost....................................... I miss my mind the most!

hey rick - my cpp ate itself after flinging one of the pitch links (long story, see earlier post) - after the repair it exhibited the weird problems like you mentioned, even acting like one blade was missing sometimes - traced it to the o rings, feathering shaft and grip bearings needing lube after being fixed - not just collective stickyness comes from different friction on either sides of the head

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.........hello to all the BOBs ..... RICK here

IT's BEEN A QUIET WEEK AT LAKE WOEBEHOUSTON !
XMAS rolled around and the LADY FRIEND ! ( my age...can't be a* GIRL* FRIEND, right?) .... decided to spring for one MOSQUITO, in the case my own broke, and needed replacing. Well.... RADIO SHACK gave her a heavy discount ( sold it for $ 20.00 ) and added one more for good measure, to get rid of all the stock of toys, then threw in two boxes of replacement blades. Like a bandit ! see pic.
Mosquito are really just a TOY, but the are TOTALLY CONTROLLABLE and very responsive. They lack nothing in maneuverability, compared to any others.

Now I APOLOGIZE for the poor piloting I am showing in the tape....I have been OFF practicing for more than one month and it PLAINLY SHOWS. The real purpose of the tape is to show just how bad the white HBK2 "shakes".....
Now I NEED TO FIGURE out how to stop the shakes.... somebody HELP ???

HERE'S THE TAPE : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bJTctUKwTc

I am always WITH Y'all and AMAZED at the advancements made. I am being left a CENTURY behind. J MICHAEL is truly amazing. LOOKYJ is now out of our SCOPE. He is a PRO

Heartfelt greeting to JEREMY, JMICHAEL, JIM WNUK, VIC, BRIAN (frozen yet?)BIG DAVE and all of you who are keeping me interested and challenged.

A VERY HAPPY NEW YEAR !

Rick,

Great videos and yes you have "tail bobbing" pretty bad. Love the picture of you and your lovely young grand-daughter.

I've attached a couple pictues of the rotor head. As mentioned by ArrowNaugtic and Cx2cp+, try the lube first and give it a quick test flight. You should be able to move the flybar paddle, up and down, by hand, through it's whole range with no binding whatsoever.
If there is binding, you will have to back off the 5.5 mm (I'd try 1/8 of a turn, then retest) nut in the grip(see picture).Check all those tiny links on the rotor head and make sure none of them have popped off. If all that checks out, it may be due to a bent feathering shaft/spindle. I don't think weather was a culprint here, the other HBK2 flew great, and the kids in the background going down the street weren't all bundled up.

Dave / Choppersrule

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NOW here is where I begin to PAY for not doing the "mechanics" of the helicopters. You mention ' LUBE " ok then : LUBRICATE WHAT AND WHERE AND WHAT WITH ?????

Sorry for the bother, but I will DO WHAT YOU SAY

RICK

Agreed Dave.......I honestly think its either no lube in the blade grips/feathering shaft or the grips being too tight. That is a classic example of grips " catching" and causing the tail bob.
Rick........ I gotta laugh....... that dog that come by when you were hovering the white one......... had to be one of the heavier doggies I have seen in awhile. The kid at the beginning of the video.....hauling a bike on his handlebars of his bicycle..... Is he another one of those that lives by the standard "always carry a spare"?
Dave and cx2cp+ hit the nail on the head, they gave you the 2 classic fixes for your issue.


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Of all the things I ever lost....................................... I miss my mind the most!

It's suggested to use a Teflon Spray for the rotor head, due to the fact of the rubber, that oil may soften the "O-Ring" in the rotor head.
WD-40 won't due, it's not a lubricant, it's a penetrating fluid and water displacement agent. Hmmmm, however, I've used Tru-Oil and never had a problem with "O-Rings" getting soft. Sewing machine oil, 3n1 oil, something light. Before you oil stuff up. Did you move the flybar up and down to see if it's binding or has alot of resistance. Lubing up, still wouldn't be a bad idea. To do it 100% properly, you have to remove the blades and remove the grips. Cuz, there is a bearing and a thrust washer inside the grip.

Or you can cheat the system and apply the oil a little heavy, move things around and wipe off the excess with a cotton ball or Q-tip.
I never do that!!!!(Yes, I do) If you don't take the rotor head assembly apart, just oil, generously, where the blade grip contacts the main rotor head. And Dribble , some into the blade grip, where the blade grip nut is.

Dave / Choppersrule
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Attention Rick,

I was in ERROR, it's not "Tru-Oil", it's Trinity Oil I use. The Tru-Oil is more like varnish.. SOOO, sorry about that. The old brain had a Phart.

Dave / Choppersrule
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Bob's

I'm down for the count. No heli to fly. Ordered blades, that's all I need.[X(] Just for fun, I rebuilt it to make sure every thing is on the money. Ground up / PM, minus blades. Cheaper for me to order online, than the cost of gas.[:'(]

Dave / Choppersrule

Chopper's--


The Logo in the video is impressive...Could be you next year eh ?!

Barrick--


Thank-you for the encouraging words.... Although there are times of your silence here, I always wonder how your doing. You seem to be doing extremely well hovering that HBK2 in your video...I sure like watching them. It means more watching the vids of the heli's when you know the crew behind the scenes...! I remember when you were just skitttering the CPP around... Now it looks like you have excellent control of the heli. Your New Year should bless you with forward flight, as you're a true fighter and will find success...


To all--


Happy New Year's in advance...


-- Jeff