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Old 06-18-2007 | 02:30 PM
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My DD tail lasted all of 0 seconds in the air........ It was spinning the heli on the ground and took out the tail mount in less than 2 seconds. Proportional was turned almost all the way down and still zapped me. Stock tail motor on and I am hovoring again with the Blade.......wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ................ blade CP!!!!


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Old 06-18-2007 | 03:43 PM
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My DD tail lasted all of 0 seconds in the air........ It was spinning the heli on the ground and took out the tail mount in less than 2 seconds. Proportional was turned almost all the way down and still zapped me. Stock tail motor on and I am hovoring again with the Blade.......wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ................ blade CP!!!!


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That's great to hear Arrow....Glad the frame worked...but I haven't figured out how it would give you a wobble.
Old 06-18-2007 | 06:05 PM
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LOl crash..me either.....all I know is that it works, if I put the same setup on the other frame.....wobble city. no kidding....... I am stumped on that one.
On a more cheery note........ got the blade all trimmed out and spooled it up with a stock tail on. Flew it for aqbout 20 seconds and was having issues with adjusting digital trim on the TX so I did what i have always done.....set it down in the grass (I cut power just as it settles down with throttle hold) and viola!!! The dang tail rotor caught in the grass and popped the rotor and gear off the tail shaft. Oh ya.....and also broke the NEW FRAME!!!! Right at the rear where the tail boom inserts, and of course that had to bust off the landing skid holder on the left rear of the frame. Crash.................. what trhe heck kinda curse did you send with that frame???????????? LOL......just jokin my friend. its all glued back together and I will get some plastiweld on it tonite and let it cure overnite. Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee............ blade CP!!!


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Old 06-18-2007 | 07:01 PM
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Hello VIC iht's RICK the Old One.... can you please tell me where I can send off for one of these new helis y'all are getting ? is the E SKY HONEY BEE KING v.2 ? tell me how much it costs, how it works,
where to get it from (site) and if you REALLY think it is WORTH IT.
My daughter and grandkid left last night and they are already back home, in the middle of a freezing winter. I have all the TIME again, for myself ! I don't mind spending some $$$ on something to keep me occupied. I am starting tomorrow to re-assemble the CP PRO with a brushless, a GYRO and maybe I will set it up with the DX-7 even since I do have the system and the small receiver. Maybe LOOKYJ will guide me for that...... I am READING the thread EVERY DAY, so I keep myself updated. I will come and check the mail, until your answer comes thru. RICK
Old 06-18-2007 | 07:17 PM
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I ordered my HBKV2 today! I love my CPP but for the tail issues[] I tried DD and DUAL Tail and I was unsuccessful with either. In stock form the CPP performs great except for the wandering tail. Till this point I've been able to compensate for it but it's now limiting my flying abilities from progressing further forward (or should I say inverted?). I'm VERY hopeful that a Belt Drive will be all that I expect from it.

BTW Crashcrash: Does the ESKY Charger have a balance plug for charging? I have 2 CSRC 1250MaH batteries I'd like to use in the HBK. If it doesn't I may sell the along with my CPP.

Rick, I ordered mine from jaghobbies.com $150 + $15 shipping. They are NOT in stock that I know of but he expects to get them in this week.

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Old 06-18-2007 | 07:27 PM
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Well guys, I put the Blade up for sale. I'm just not getting anywhere with it. Once you start upgrading, there is no stopping. You always have to fix the next weaker part. If I had the Pro I think it would be different. I've looked into the HHKII and the T-Rex and I'm going to go with the T-rex. Hobby-Sports has a blinged out KL that's never been flown for $299. Mechanical head. I thought about the V2, pretty pricey. I put in a call to our clubs heli pro and picked his mind. He said he'd choose a CCPM head, even though he's flying a T-Rex with the mechanical. He recommended that I look at the SA, the best bang for the buck. I hate to give up on the Blade but I've had nickles and dimes pouring out of my pockets

God Bless Guys!

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Old 06-18-2007 | 07:51 PM
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Those nickles and dimes ad up quick. After 3 weeks with the T Rex. haven't spent a dime. (knock on wood). I'm just learning the machine its so quick it will scare you but treat it with respect and you'll learn so much more than with the Pro. I'm still waiting to hear how the HHKII pans out I still need something to play with around the house. I'm so impresssed with the Align stuff I'm looking at the 600.(God help me)
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this is RICK (in case anybody remembers!) and this post is meant to make CHOPPERSRULE smile. It shows I am coming back and for the first time, diss=assembled a heli, AND SOLDERING TOO !
I am only following the MANUAL for upgrading the PRO with GYRO and BRUSHLESS. The instructions are very clear. If it works well, I think I will try to replace the receiver with the DX-7 system and use it to full advantage. But first, want to find out if the changes, per the manual, work well. I am getting rather nervously discouraged reading y'alls reports, I confess. I hope my own strange LUCK continues to hold and the PRO flies well. Playing PawPaw Host for more than a month , ended last night, when my daughter and grand B went back home. So I couldn't WAIT to get back to the bench. Here's proof of today's work. Still have to solve the GEAR/PINION meshing problem that I mentioned a while back. ok gents. like the GREMLINS ..... I am BAAAAAAAACK.........
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Old 06-18-2007 | 09:08 PM
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Welcome back to the fold Barrrick............ you have been missed and don't get discouraged. I will always have one or 2 Eflite Blades around. They are pretty docile once you get past the learning curve. That being said....the Blade is on its 3rd rebuild today........... I just finished crashing it again, and took out the blades this time too........... I am down to 5 spare sets.....hehe. Frame is still broken and won't get any love from me tonite until I get this lil heli calmed down. I can't seem to get my hands back like before. Running the stock plastic head seems not very responsive like the CNC head is. I have to learn how to "prefly" like i did before i got it! Such is the life of a heli crashing fool!


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Old 06-18-2007 | 10:16 PM
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Comes with balance charger...


Hi Arrow, Rick, all you guys......
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I just got off the most plesant flight I've had in over a month and a half. 15 min flying time with about 11 of that with full climbout power. I put 2 heatsinks back on my main motor and the main motor was only 111F (so plus 35), ambient 76F, 3 in 1 81F, battery 96F. This is what heli's are all about =) I almost forgot, I haven't been in the air so long =P I was actually quite satisfied with the climbing power, even with a 1250mAh pack on it and the dual tail. I defiantely could go for another =)
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BTW Crashcrash: Does the ESKY Charger have a balance plug for charging? I have 2 CSRC 1250MaH batteries I'd like to use in the HBK. If it doesn't I may sell the along with my CPP.
yeah, the esky charge is almost exactly the same as the eflite balance charger. It just has a couple of differences, like bigger internal diodes, a relay to connect or disconnect the pack, and it doesn't have the aligator leads perminantly attached, instead the hook on the DC power plug so you can only have one hooked up at a time which makes it so you can't break it as easy. Also mine comes with a 2s and a 3s balance port, and also charges at 800mA
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welcome back rick =) you've been away for a while =)

honestly I think with the blades, it may have just been that everyone ran into troubles all at the same time, so everyone started thinking the heli was junk. Don't get me wrong, it defiantely can be a tinker's heli, especially at times. I had to chase my gremlins for about a month and a half before I finally figured something out. I may be speaking too soon though.

I agree with what arrow said a few days ago, a heli that flies well without much of a problem for a several hundred flights, and then stops working because of a bad crash or something isn't really junk =)

Don't get me wrong though, if you want to go beyong hovering, orientation, FF and FFF, then this probably isn't your heli, because of it's size, power, and the fact that it has a motor driven tail that is fixed pitch.

I personally am gona hold out a bit and see how this HBK2 works out in the long run, because a new heli deserves alot of attention and excitement, but after a few months time flying it every day the weak points are bound to show up. Maybe there wont be many though, and then I might just have to get one =) Or just stop messing around and get a good Trex setup =)

I really like this thread though and how friendly everyone is, and that we all stick together even though lots are flying different machines. Thanks everyone for the comradery and the great convo!
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ORIGINAL: Barrrick

this is RICK (in case anybody remembers!) and this post is meant to make CHOPPERSRULE smile. It shows I am coming back and for the first time, diss=assembled a heli, AND SOLDERING TOO !
I am only following the MANUAL for upgrading the PRO with GYRO and BRUSHLESS. The instructions are very clear. If it works well, I think I will try to replace the receiver with the DX-7 system and use it to full advantage. But first, want to find out if the changes, per the manual, work well. I am getting rather nervously discouraged reading y'alls reports, I confess. I hope my own strange LUCK continues to hold and the PRO flies well. Playing PawPaw Host for more than a month , ended last night, when my daughter and grand B went back home. So I couldn't WAIT to get back to the bench. Here's proof of today's work. Still have to solve the GEAR/PINION meshing problem that I mentioned a while back. ok gents. like the GREMLINS ..... I am BAAAAAAAACK.........
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Barrick,
I dont have experiance with the BL motor. But I found the manuals instructions to work spot on for me as far as the gyro install goes.
Also I too must give my vote of confidence for the blade. Mine really only has problems when I pilot it into the ground. (which is all too often) It is not the sturdiest RC ever built, but when I fly over the tall wild grass near my house she even survives a crash here and there without any repair. I have definately started trying to fly this heli a little more conservitively so that I have more days like mrasmm described. Sorry to hear about those of ya who are havin' all the grimlins that just wont go away.

Noah
Old 06-18-2007 | 11:37 PM
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Busted the frame again tonite for the 4th time. Now isn't a good time to realize I haven't got any plastiweld or Epoxy laying around. The blade flys great, I got the proportional just about perfect and was working on trimming the swash links for a little side motion and ended up setting it down too hard. It just pops the boom out and ended up tearing a pitch link apart this time too........ I will stop at Home Depot tomorrow and pick up both epoxy and plastiweld. Still got the TREX and the CX2 to keep me occupied but I have been on a mission with this CP for a couple of weeks........Feels good to have it all set up again, now to just dial it in and get that frame locked in, and I should be good to go.



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Old 06-18-2007 | 11:46 PM
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man arrow, I think crash's gremlins musta hitched a ride on the UPS and headed your way (hehe, just messin crash =( Seriously though, that's bad luck. I dunno what you have around, but for a while I was laning mine on a full sized tramp on the ground to absob the shock a little, but mostly so it would skid if I didn't set it down straight. I wonder if you could also use a foam cushion or bedding or something =/ GL on the repairs anyway =)
Old 06-19-2007 | 06:32 AM
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Thanks for the replays on the Esky charger, it's what I was hoping to hear.

As far as the CPP goes, I have only 1 complaint about it. The tail doesn't hold enough when climbing or descending. Changes in the RPM of the main motor cause excess changes in the tail motor causing the tail to constantly drift. In FFF, the tail holds fine and coordinated turns (aileron & rudder) are very smooth. I really like my CPP but for the tail drifting with power changes.

I have tried both the DD and dual tail setups. My DD experience is exactly what Arrow just found out It spun the heli around like nobody's business. I did eventually change the direction of the rotation and cut a prop down to the 3020 from the 4520. This lasted a total of 4 minutes before the motor overheated and she did the spin of death again. I just recently tried the Dual Tail setup from MH and found that each time I hooked up both motors, I would get awful glitching problems even with 2 brand new motors. As I was trying to isolate what the problem was, one motor locked up tight and burnt the second one out on its way back down. I decided I had enough of that. I put another NEW motor back on it in stock format and that one lasted a total of 4 minutes. The problem is with the motors as my gain is very low and the 3 in 1 is performing fine. So add it up: $30 in new tail motors and $37 for the MH DD holder and fin. $67 in a week and my tail still isnt working $10 for a new motor to get it back up and running and I'm calling it quits. That's $77 in one week to try and get a stable tail! It's going up for sale tonite.

The tail motors are my ONLY complaint with the Balde series, everything else about it has performed fine fo me.

I'm giving the HBK V2 a try to see what the belt drive is all about. Sadly JAG probably won't have them till later this week so it won't be till next week I can get one.
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Thanks for the replays on the Esky charger, it's what I was hoping to hear.

As far as the CPP goes, I have only 1 complaint about it. The tail doesn't hold enough when climbing or descending. Changes in the RPM of the main motor cause excess changes in the tail motor causing the tail to constantly drift. In FFF, the tail holds fine and coordinated turns (aileron & rudder) are very smooth. I really like my CPP but for the tail drifting with power changes.

I have tried both the DD and dual tail setups. My DD experience is exactly what Arrow just found out It spun the heli around like nobody's business. I did eventually change the direction of the rotation and cut a prop down to the 3020 from the 4520. This lasted a total of 4 minutes before the motor overheated and she did the spin of death again. I just recently tried the Dual Tail setup from MH and found that each time I hooked up both motors, I would get awful glitching problems even with 2 brand new motors. As I was trying to isolate what the problem was, one motor locked up tight and burnt the second one out on its way back down. I decided I had enough of that. I put another NEW motor back on it in stock format and that one lasted a total of 4 minutes. The problem is with the motors as my gain is very low and the 3 in 1 is performing fine. So add it up: $30 in new tail motors and $37 for the MH DD holder and fin. $67 in a week and my tail still isnt working $10 for a new motor to get it back up and running and I'm calling it quits. That's $77 in one week to try and get a stable tail! It's going up for sale tonite.

The tail motors are my ONLY complaint with the Balde series, everything else about it has performed fine fo me.

I'm giving the HBK V2 a try to see what the belt drive is all about. Sadly JAG probably won't have them till later this week so it won't be till next week I can get one.
When I finally got the pro straight...it was running great. The direct drive tail....perfect. The secret was that I wired the pos as neg and neg as pos. I cut the propeller down and I used the stock gearbox inverted. The motor NEVER got much over 100deg with the heat sink. I think it'll last a very long time for the guy I sold it to....at least till he smashes it (LOL). The HBKII, it has issues also, like getting used to it for one. The tail holds decient with the belt drive. The weak spot on the HBKII...the main motor (super 370). I recommend going brushless at this point. The super 370 I had smoked in less than 10 flights. BP has them for about $17 shipped and they're fast so I ordered one. I will be going to the bl/esc on the HBKII. I did reduce the pitch and bring up the head speed...that's needed. The main motor gets HOTHOTHOT, so brushless it is. Its smooth as glass and handles like a dream compared to the Pro. It's size although bigger is still small enough to be able to check the function while holding it in your hand (a little scary though).
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Crashcrash,
It's size although bigger is still small enough to be able to check the function while holding it in your hand (a little scary though).
LOL... this is how I bench test my heli too. I have had some blade stikes to myself from not being careful. Until I have a heli that can draw blood I will continue showing off my stupidity...just glad to hear I'm not alone. [8D]
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Crashcrash,
It's size although bigger is still small enough to be able to check the function while holding it in your hand (a little scary though).
LOL... this is how I bench test my heli too. I have had some blade stikes to myself from not being careful. Until I have a heli that can draw blood I will continue showing off my stupidity...just glad to hear I'm not alone. [8D]
I had a Walkera dragonfly fixed pitch lay me wide open...bled like a stuck pig. That heli is smaller than the Blade series heli and uses a N20 tail motor. Main motor might have been a 180 sized (LOL). The blades that are stock are composite carbon and they're sharp I'll tell ya.
Old 06-19-2007 | 06:13 PM
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Hi Guys

I kept my Blade. I bought a T-Rex SA and a lot of other stuff My wife let me get the Rex SA and keep my Blade if I didn't go with the V2. That's a good deal in my book and now I just have to see what she buys for $400[:@] Fairs is Fair, right[:@] I can't wait to get the Rex in the air and I also am glad to keep the Blade. A small part of me likes to work on and figure out problems,( Blade ), the other part just wants to fly,( T-Rex ).

God Bless Guys,

Jay
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Bought some replacement blades for a friend's Walkera 22e (imho a pretty crappy helicopter).
They cost only $8.60 and I expected them to be pretty awful. After they arrived (which took a few weeks, mailed from Hong Kong) I tried them out on my BCPP. They worked very well, no balancing required and produced a stable hover and FF.
They are longer and less wide than standard blades but seem to work fine with my brushless setup. I had one minor crash so far and they seemed to hold up OK.
I ordered a couple of pairs and will use them for practice, etc. At this price I don't feel so bad about messing them up.
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http://www.hobbyjapan2000.com/store/...od=HM-22E-Z-01

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Jay,
You crack me up with the wife stuff..... My wife loves my heli addiction..... She has constant ammo to support the useless crap she wants to buy. [:@]
Luckily I bought her a $3000 sofa & coffee table last year so I still have a little heli buying credit left.... lol
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OK...Here's the HBKII in a nut shell:

Likes...


*belt drive (finally getting used to it).
*Tail pitch (AKA the POT on the CP/CPP) right on the TX and can be adjusted in flight.
*very stable but don't put it up in gusty winds because the gryo will try to compensate and it's all over the place
*as close to a T-Rex as you can get cept smaller.
*electronics seem to be pretty good quality.
*The bird in general is leaps and bounds in quality and engineering compaired to anything I've seen to date.

I'm VERY satisfied in this unit.

Dislikes,

*remove the canopy to get the battery out (PITA).
*landing skids are too narrow in my book.
*stock motor (super 370) burns out after a few flights.
*instruction manual incomplete and vague...gives no instructions on the TX controls at all, and don't go into detail on trimming etc.

In retrospect, the CP-Pro was an excellent choice to stepping up to the HBKII. Remember...I had no heli experience and went from Walkera DF#4 FP to Blade CP, then CP-Pro, and now the HBKII. The HBKII is a much more complexed heli than the Blade series in every way. And at first...harder to fly till I learned the querks of the HBKII. I'll always remember the headaches the Pro caused and I'll never forget how well it flew when I sold it[:'(]
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Hey crash............ I was lurking in the beginners section and came across this lil gadget. [link=http://www.fmadirect.com/Detail.htm?item=1770&section=29]CoPilot for n00bs[/link]
I might get one for the TREX and the lil CPD4 for the HBK......if I ever get paid......... Pretty kewl the way these work, and the super system I linked to will also handle CCPM helis, concievably including the Blade CP's and Pros.... Interesting, now another thing to drool over....when does it end???


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