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Old 09-25-2009 | 08:49 AM
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ORIGINAL: w8ye

The catalog went to press a couple months ago. It may not be current news now?

The internet catalog would be more up to date?

The point of my post about looking in the "mailed paperback catalog" was to point out the statement about these engines going through DL USA. The online catalog does not make any reference to this. Sometimes the internet isn't the end all conglomerate of information. Besides, I like to memorize part numbers and pricing for my friends at the field.
Old 09-25-2009 | 02:10 PM
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I don't know if I would recommend that... people's ability to solder varies greatly, and if the butterfly "solder plug" was ingested, it could seize the engine. Also what would that do to the slow idle?

It might be better to put a servo on the choke and starve the engine that way. Another method would be to put a servo on the ignition switch or use an electronic switch from the radio.



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Just solder the hole in the butterfly valve and you can kill it every time it is fully closed.
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,i still think he needs to find the air leak,,, apparently this poster didnt read the cause of the question...
Old 09-25-2009 | 02:49 PM
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I agree. I haven't seen an engine yet working correctly that would not shut down using the throttle plate as it was equipped on the carb. I see a whole lot of engines and have never experienced a need to solder the hole in a choke plate shut. If that's what's needed to shut down the engine there's another problem that is the true source.
Old 09-25-2009 | 04:01 PM
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tired old man i coquer with you
Old 09-25-2009 | 04:41 PM
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tired old man i coquer with you
I coquer (concurr) with you too. LOL
Old 09-25-2009 | 05:09 PM
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Old 09-25-2009 | 05:32 PM
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Just richen it up,it will wash out the brazing on the throttle plate that comes loose and cover the air leak.
Old 09-25-2009 | 05:39 PM
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huh???????
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Just richen it up,it will wash out the brazing on the choke that comes loose and cover the air leak.
Old 09-25-2009 | 06:52 PM
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here is another place to get the CM-6. $1.97 ea.

http://www.boats.net/parts/detail/H-98052-56471.html

Greg

I just got 4 from here and they arrived in the mail today. These guys are fast, got em in about 3 days across country. These are in a Honda box but say NGK CM-6 on the plugs. It was just over $14 shipped. Cool leads guys! Jon
Old 09-25-2009 | 08:19 PM
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I would feel much safer putting an optical kill switch on a gas motor to shut it down instead. This will prevent accidents both on the ground and in the air should the need arise to kill the motor quickly. I would of thought TBM would have suggested this.
Old 09-25-2009 | 08:28 PM
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regardless,of the safety factor,,,which is very important,,,theres still a reason that ,he cant shut it down,via the choke,or throttle ,and that needs to be corrected,and yes,the kill switch will definitely add to making things safe,sometimes in the confusion of an emergency ,its good to have several ways to shut down,but the description of the problem seems typical ,of an air leak,and not the need for a kill switch.
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I would feel much safer putting an optical kill switch on a gas motor to shut it down instead. This will prevent accidents both on the ground and in the air should the need arise to kill the motor quickly. I would of thought TBM would have suggested this.
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Attached the exhaust of my DL50 after 250+ flights. No signs of any leakage w/ stock gasket. Only used some heat-resistant loctite.
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Old 09-27-2009 | 07:39 PM
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regardless,of the safety factor,,,which is very important,,,theres still a reason that ,he cant shut it down,via the choke,or throttle ,and that needs to be corrected,and yes,the kill switch will definitely add to making things safe,sometimes in the confusion of an emergency ,its good to have several ways to shut down,but the description of the problem seems typical ,of an air leak,and not the need for a kill switch.
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I would feel much safer putting an optical kill switch on a gas motor to shut it down instead. This will prevent accidents both on the ground and in the air should the need arise to kill the motor quickly. I would of thought TBM would have suggested this.
If you had seen the damage that a 22 inch prop does when it makes contact with people, you would not hessitate to fit a kill switch, when running, these engines should be treated like a loaded gun. I would love the idiots who taxi through the pit area with a gasser to see what can happen ! In my opinion, an opto kill is essential, certainly not an option.
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regardless,of the safety factor,,,which is very important,,,theres still a reason that ,he cant shut it down,via the choke,or throttle ,and that needs to be corrected,and yes,the kill switch will definitely add to making things safe,sometimes in the confusion of an emergency ,its good to have several ways to shut down,but the description of the problem seems typical ,of an air leak,and not the need for a kill switch.
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I would feel much safer putting an optical kill switch on a gas motor to shut it down instead. This will prevent accidents both on the ground and in the air should the need arise to kill the motor quickly. I would of thought TBM would have suggested this.
If you had seen the damage that a 22 inch prop does when it makes contact with people, you would not hessitate to fit a kill switch, when running, these engines should be treated like a loaded gun. I would love the idiots who taxi through the pit area with a gasser to see what can happen ! In my opinion, an opto kill is essential, certainly not an option.
thats why i did not diminish the importance of safety,,,but everything is getting out of context here,,the young man was wondering why his engine wont shut down,but just trimming down ,like it used to,,,ps is anyone isnt fully aware of the fact ,you could get killed,or badly mangled,probably shouldnt be operating,a gasser or glow or electric,,but thats only my opinion,,so tes,,,every possible precaution should be used,but that wasnt how this subject got started,and im guilty of weighing ,in on a paragraph,and not reading the whole subject ,so i agree with your statement,but only in context.
Old 09-27-2009 | 08:46 PM
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,excuse my typing,,cant find my glasses,,,ps servo operated kill switches are good too.
Old 09-27-2009 | 09:11 PM
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Servo operated kill switches are NOT good. If the receiver goes down or the servo (linkage) got stuck, an optical switch is essential.
Old 09-29-2009 | 08:03 AM
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Servo operated kill switches are NOT good. If the receiver goes down or the servo (linkage) got stuck, an optical switch is essential.
Definitely! We had a member at our field almost put his 33% plane in my lap while taxiing to the pit area. He had a servo operated kill switch which had the whole tray vibrate loose in flight. Didn't realize it until he was ready to shut her down and couldn't. Very scary moment indeed!
Old 09-29-2009 | 08:24 AM
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Oh, and make sure u replace your stock plugs with the CM-6. I had one in my DL-100 disintegrate in one of the cylinders. The motor was running on one cylinder and could still hover my 33% Yak 55. I can't believe it was still running in the condition I found the plug. If this had happened in my DL-50, I most certainly would of had a dead-stick. Jodi, here it comes.
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ORIGINAL: TURBINATOR

Oh, and make sure u replace your stock plugs with the CM-6.
That sounds familiar....
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Hey guys make sure to replace your stock plug with a cm-6
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Joe, you probably have nightmares about those plugs don't you? [:-]
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Joe, you probably have nightmares about those plugs don't you? [:-]
No actually I don't. Never used them never will. My intent as always is to help people. [8D]
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The shielding of the spark plug cable is all frayed near the plug cap. Is the cable a replaceable part or do I need to order a new CDI?
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The shielding of the spark plug cable is all frayed near the plug cap. Is the cable a replaceable part or do I need to order a new CDI?
You can shorten the lead and replace the cap, simple job, if your careful you could remove the existing cap trim back the plug wire and refit with new heat shrink.

If you need a new cap, Im pretty sure ValleyView would have them, made by RCEXL.

However the spark lead itself is not replaceable. (some people repair the braiding...by overlaying new braiding and soldering in place...but not sure how good that works)

Cheers

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The shielding of the spark plug cable is all frayed near the plug cap. Is the cable a replaceable part or do I need to order a new CDI?
Placing inexpensive cable wrapping over your plug wires is a way to prevent this from happening. It also comes in different colors to dress up your motor.


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