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Old 11-23-2010 | 10:07 PM
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Looks like its inspection time. If you loosen the screw that holds the throttle plate...make sure to loctight it...if it gets in engine....bad things happen. Capt,n
Old 11-24-2010 | 01:34 AM
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Yea,engine makes funny noise.I found the throttle plate was way off c enter on two of my DL 30s. Just loosten the screw about 1/2 turn and force throttle closed ,back out the throttle stop screw before y ou do this. Wiggle things around untill you get the best fit on the throttle butterfly. Tighten screw securely. Hold carb up to a light and see if you can light around throttle plate. If you can it is not centered or is not round.
Sorry about spelling too tired to check.
BCCHI I will have your 2.4 oz ign in the mail soon. If I get time I will build you one with fixed timing. You will not like it ,if you have run Syncro spark.
Old 11-24-2010 | 10:22 AM
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Thanks for helping me out guys.
My father is down from MO. for Thanksgiving and we noticed if you hold the throttle shaft in there is no binding issue. What we did is remove the retaining E-clip and put a thin washer on the shaft between the carb block and the e-clip. I put a little Vaseline on it as well. Problem solved![sm=thumbup.gif] Didn't even have to drop the engine.
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Old 11-26-2010 | 08:20 PM
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can anyone show me the hole location to start with in regards to drilling the prop?
my engine will be inverted, and i like to be able to start with the prop at 2 O'clock as i pull thru.
Old 11-26-2010 | 08:34 PM
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For a 1:30-2:00 position, line 2 holes up with the prop blade tips.
Old 11-26-2010 | 08:36 PM
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For a 1:30-2:00 position, line 2 holes up with the prop blade tips.
got it now....thanks Jody
Old 11-27-2010 | 01:37 AM
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For a 1:30-2:00 position, line 2 holes up with the prop blade tips.
Really,
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Old 11-27-2010 | 09:30 AM
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Hey guys....blow some warrm air up from the deep south towards Mich...I want to test fly My Giles 202...not the old Midwest one. It is the one Nito planes has. Now before you guys say "oh no" read the complete thread on the Green & white Giles. I have read where some guys said they wish they never sold theirs. I hope mine flys good. To me it looks like a sport pattern airplane...not for 3D though. I am going to weigh it today on a certfied scale. My guess is under 11 pounds....I hope. Capt,n
Old 11-27-2010 | 11:14 AM
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Jody
I believe there is a mistake in the Operator's Manual for the DLE 30 on page nine (9)
step three (3). It states "Next, set the engine at the top of the compression stroke. Note
the position of the ignition magnet with engine inverted"

I think it should read, Next, set the engine at the beginning of the compression stroke.
Note the position of the ignition magnet with engine inverted.

This would also match the picture above step three (3)

What do you think?
Thanks Robert
Old 11-27-2010 | 11:23 AM
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Jody
I believe there is a mistake in the Operator's Manual for the DLE 30 on page nine (9)
step three (3). It states ''Next, set the engine at the top of the compression stroke. Note
the position of the ignition magnet with engine inverted''

I think it should read, Next, set the engine at the beginning of the compression stroke.
Note the position of the ignition magnet with engine inverted.

This would also match the picture above step three (3)

What do you think?
Thanks Robert
that's what made the posistion confusing indeed.
looking at the manual of the DLE55 says "beginning of the compression stroke"...........LOL
i was going to use a practice 18x6 prop anyways, but thought i'd ask so i was at least close to sanity[:-]
Old 11-27-2010 | 11:50 AM
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I have the DLE 30 and DLE 55 and the GP YAK 54 and can not decide which engine to use.
The 30 is a little under and the 55 is over. Have asked if anyone has tried the DLE30 with
this plane but got no reply. Not being a Hot Doger I think I will try the DLE 30. Again has
anyone tried this combo?
Old 11-27-2010 | 11:56 AM
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What does it weigh?

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I have the DLE 30 and DLE 55 and the GP YAK 54 and can not decide which engine to use.
The 30 is a little under and the 55 is over. Have asked if anyone has tried the DLE30 with
this plane but got no reply. Not being a Hot Doger I think I will try the DLE 30. Again has
anyone tried this combo?
Old 11-27-2010 | 12:08 PM
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I would go with the 55 in that airframe. It is a little overpowered, but the 30 will be underpowered and will have weak vertical. It will fly fine as long as you are not into 3D. The 55 will give fantastic vertical but the GP Yak is not the best choice for 3D as the wing loading is a bit on the high side. Their is a good thread on it in the 3D forum.
Old 11-27-2010 | 12:27 PM
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hey since when can you have too much power?lol kidding.

cap't..I usually dont care what others say about a model I pick unless its really critical.I have friends driving dodges and I will never buy a crysler product again ..but ya better get cracking as that mich.weather is probably not flyer friendly these days..

and jody thats why people like me buy from valleyview your knowledge is invaluable!!I love my dle30..one of the guys at my club is hanging up his 87 3dh shpand I am thinking of seriously taking it over and getting a 55dle.good stuff!!!
Old 11-27-2010 | 12:50 PM
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I would go with the 55 in that airframe. It is a little overpowered, but the 30 will be underpowered and will have weak vertical. It will fly fine as long as you are not into 3D. The 55 will give fantastic vertical but the GP Yak is not the best choice for 3D as the wing loading is a bit on the high side. Their is a good thread on it in the 3D forum.
If it does balance better with the 55cc engine...use it....you can always throttle back to the power of the 30cc engine. Thats the way I look at it. Easy balance means a lot!

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Old 11-27-2010 | 12:54 PM
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hey since when can you have too much power?lol kidding.

cap't..I usually dont care what others say about a model I pick unless its really critical.I have friends driving dodges and I will never buy a crysler product again ..but ya better get cracking as that mich.weather is probably not flyer friendly these days..

and jody thats why people like me buy from valleyview your knowledge is invaluable!!I love my dle30..one of the guys at my club is hanging up his 87 3dh shpand I am thinking of seriously taking it over and getting a 55dle.good stuff!!!
Cloudancer, thanks for the kind words. Seems like I see a movie called "Clowdancer" ?Not sure....I recall a airplane landing on a moving vehicle of some sort!

Best Regards Capt,n
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I would go with the 55 in that airframe. It is a little overpowered, but the 30 will be underpowered and will have weak vertical. It will fly fine as long as you are not into 3D. The 55 will give fantastic vertical but the GP Yak is not the best choice for 3D as the wing loading is a bit on the high side. Their is a good thread on it in the 3D forum.
If it does balance better with the 55cc engine...use it....you can always throttle back to the power of the 30cc engine. Thats the way I look at it. Easy balance means a lot!

Capt,n
Yup that would be my choice. I have the SU-31 with the 55 and it is a rocket. The power of the 30 can't be underestimated though. I have mine on a GP Giant Stick weighing just shy of 14lbs and it surprised everyone at the field including myself with it's performance.
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ghoffman,

I think I am looking at about 13 lbs with the DLE30. The GP Yak54 was designed around the OS 1.60 or the Fuji 43.
I have a Fuji 43 in the GP Ultimate and I feel the DLE30 is almost as powerful and a LOT lighter. Just as good or better
than the OS 1.60. I am not a 3D guy, just an old 72 yr young guy that enjoys the hobby/sport. I guess I will have to
let the "thread" know how the 30 does in the GP Yak54.....
Old 11-27-2010 | 01:36 PM
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Let me throw in my $.02 on the DLE 30. I have a Hangar 9 Edge 540 78" and a Lanier stinger 120 both with DLE 30s. Each weigh a touch over 13LB. The 30s with a Xoar 19x8 have impressive unlimited vertical. The edge will do decent 3d the stinger wont but it wasn't made to 3d.

As many have stated 13LBS. is the upper limit for 3D on a DLE 30, but they will sport fly 15 LBS very well I am sure.
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Thanks to all for info. I am going to try the 30 in the GP Yak and for my style of flying I think I will
be fine. One of my concerns is balance. I may have to leave the rudder servo's where they are shown
for the glow engine install.
Old 11-27-2010 | 02:00 PM
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No Reply...Just a DLE30 exhaust thing. I had made a adapter of sorts to use my Bisson pitts muffler on my DLE30. Got the cowl cut only to find I would need to cut a chunk out of side of cowl for clearance. Bummer. Yesterday I moved some engine parts in parts area...and found another Pitts exhaust. With just a little mod(enlarging bolt slots) I installed it. It looks like now I have one that may work without further cutting. Will see later today! Capt,n "Added" ...I will add a brace to far end of chamber so vibes do not wreck things.
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repinfl for what you describe I think you will be very happy with the 30. Try and keep as much weight forward as in the Yak thread veryone was having problems with it coming out tail heavy. I also find the DLE30 is about equal to the OS 1.60. Let us know how you make out with it.
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Jody
I believe there is a mistake in the Operator's Manual for the DLE 30 on page nine (9)
step three (3). It states "Next, set the engine at the top of the compression stroke. Note
the position of the ignition magnet with engine inverted"

I think it should read, Next, set the engine at the beginning of the compression stroke.
Note the position of the ignition magnet with engine inverted.

This would also match the picture above step three (3)

What do you think?
Thanks Robert
You must have purchased your engine from Tower Hobbies, that manual was not written by DLE, it was written by someone at Hobby Services. That is not the only mistake in their maual andfrom what I've heard the service people have the same lack of understanding and product knowledge.
Old 11-27-2010 | 02:38 PM
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ORIGINAL: repinfl

Jody
I believe there is a mistake in the Operator's Manual for the DLE 30 on page nine (9)
step three (3). It states "Next, set the engine at the top of the compression stroke. Note
the position of the ignition magnet with engine inverted"

I think it should read, Next, set the engine at the beginning of the compression stroke.
Note the position of the ignition magnet with engine inverted.

This would also match the picture above step three (3)

What do you think?
Thanks Robert
You must have purchased your engine from Tower Hobbies, that manual was not written by DLE, it was written by someone at Hobby Services. That is not the only mistake in their maual andfrom what I've heard the service people have the same lack of understanding and product knowledge.
From reading these manuals, I get the idea they were written by individuals willing to write them and not necessarily by someone with a lot of gas engine knowledge and they certainly didn't consult several others for procedural concept and proof reading before publishing the many errors I've seen.

A guy at the flying field the other day was quoting from the manual and I said that was wrong about his DLE 55. He went to the truck and got the manual out to show me the gospel from the Tower manual. I said it was still wrong! He insisted it was correct because it was in the manual.

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the manual rewrite is a thing of beauty
Horizon just came out with an ARF that has a 47" wingspan, but the manual lists 63 and overall length for a 90 size plane instead of the 40 size that it is.
to me manuals are simply a guideline for specifications, but the magnet location and compression location that Hobby services shows in their manual should be downright embarrasing to them.

Jody, had i known of you guys i definately would have bought my engine from you.........the second one i am buying will be through you though.


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