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Hey JPEE,
Actually, both FS-One and Realflight let you use your own transmitter but most likely you just need to have their USB-adapter (used for copyright protection) hooked up to your computer.
I was referring to FMS (flight model simulator) which is free, and also lets you use your own transmitter but since the software is freeware, there is no copyright. google "FMS" and you will be able to download it for free.
"However, if I only have the TX controller for the CX 2 which is greatly different than the Spektrum’s DX6i 2.4GHz DSM2 that come with the larger E-Flite's then hows that work? I "thought" that all of the sims came with the Spektrum’s DX6i 2.4GHz DSM2 LIKE like the E-Fite 400 does? "
Your CX-2 controller should work. FS-One and Realflight should have adapter cables to let you hook up your CX-2 Controller to your computer and fly on the sims. or if not, they both sell them separately. If I didn't answer your question, please post again and I or someone else will try to help.
You should check out the reviews of both simulator software before you decide to take the plunge. [link=http://www.flyinggiants.com/forums/fg91/8330-g3-vs-fsone-vs-g3-5-fsone-comparison-review.html]HERE[/link]is one such review.
Edit: I can't post the link because its against forum rules but I tell you what... Search for this exact phrase "G3 vs FSone vs G3.5 (FSone comparison review)" and you should get to a review and its on RCuniverse.com too
Actually, both FS-One and Realflight let you use your own transmitter but most likely you just need to have their USB-adapter (used for copyright protection) hooked up to your computer.
I was referring to FMS (flight model simulator) which is free, and also lets you use your own transmitter but since the software is freeware, there is no copyright. google "FMS" and you will be able to download it for free.
"However, if I only have the TX controller for the CX 2 which is greatly different than the Spektrum’s DX6i 2.4GHz DSM2 that come with the larger E-Flite's then hows that work? I "thought" that all of the sims came with the Spektrum’s DX6i 2.4GHz DSM2 LIKE like the E-Fite 400 does? "
Your CX-2 controller should work. FS-One and Realflight should have adapter cables to let you hook up your CX-2 Controller to your computer and fly on the sims. or if not, they both sell them separately. If I didn't answer your question, please post again and I or someone else will try to help.
You should check out the reviews of both simulator software before you decide to take the plunge. [link=http://www.flyinggiants.com/forums/fg91/8330-g3-vs-fsone-vs-g3-5-fsone-comparison-review.html]HERE[/link]is one such review.
Edit: I can't post the link because its against forum rules but I tell you what... Search for this exact phrase "G3 vs FSone vs G3.5 (FSone comparison review)" and you should get to a review and its on RCuniverse.com too
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I wonder if anyone cna answer 2 questions for me,
Has anyody any comment on the realism of the Hanger9 Corsair in FSone compaired to the real H9 Corsair model?
Second question; if you look at my laptops graphics specs below will FSone run on this laptop?
Intel(R) Graphics Media Accelerator Driver for Mobile Report
Report Date: 03/20/2008
Report Time[hr:mm:ss]: 21:49:33
Driver Version: 6.14.10.4764
Operating System: Windows XP* Home Edition, Service Pack 2 (5.1.2600)
Default Language: English
DirectX* Version: 9.0
Physical Memory: 758 MB
Minimum Graphics Memory: 8 MB
Maximum Graphics Memory: 128 MB
Graphics Memory in Use: 10 MB
Processor: x86 family 6 Model 13 Stepping 8
Processor Speed: 1729 MHZ
Vendor ID: 8086
Device ID: 2592
Device Revision: 03
* Accelerator Information *
Accelerator in Use: Mobile Intel(R) 915GM/GMS,910GML Express Chipset Family
Video BIOS: 1222
Current Graphics Mode: 1280 by 800 True Color (60 Hz)
* Devices Connected to the Graphics Accelerator *
Active Notebook Displays: 1
* Notebook *
Monitor Name: Plug and Play Monitor
Display Type: Digital
Gamma Value: 2.20
DDC2 Protocol: Supported
Maximum Image Size: Horizontal: Not Available
Vertical: Not Available
Monitor Supported Modes:
1280 by 800 (60 Hz)
Display Power Management Support:
Standby Mode: Not Supported
Has anyody any comment on the realism of the Hanger9 Corsair in FSone compaired to the real H9 Corsair model?
Second question; if you look at my laptops graphics specs below will FSone run on this laptop?
Intel(R) Graphics Media Accelerator Driver for Mobile Report
Report Date: 03/20/2008
Report Time[hr:mm:ss]: 21:49:33
Driver Version: 6.14.10.4764
Operating System: Windows XP* Home Edition, Service Pack 2 (5.1.2600)
Default Language: English
DirectX* Version: 9.0
Physical Memory: 758 MB
Minimum Graphics Memory: 8 MB
Maximum Graphics Memory: 128 MB
Graphics Memory in Use: 10 MB
Processor: x86 family 6 Model 13 Stepping 8
Processor Speed: 1729 MHZ
Vendor ID: 8086
Device ID: 2592
Device Revision: 03
* Accelerator Information *
Accelerator in Use: Mobile Intel(R) 915GM/GMS,910GML Express Chipset Family
Video BIOS: 1222
Current Graphics Mode: 1280 by 800 True Color (60 Hz)
* Devices Connected to the Graphics Accelerator *
Active Notebook Displays: 1
* Notebook *
Monitor Name: Plug and Play Monitor
Display Type: Digital
Gamma Value: 2.20
DDC2 Protocol: Supported
Maximum Image Size: Horizontal: Not Available
Vertical: Not Available
Monitor Supported Modes:
1280 by 800 (60 Hz)
Display Power Management Support:
Standby Mode: Not Supported
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I used to run FSOne on a low end GFX initially... ATI 9250.
I would guess that generally you'll need to put the 3D scenery details and quality to medium for your integrated GFX (edit: or actually even a bit lower than medium). But the lower setting won't necessarily have a huge impact and the 3D scenery is not mind blowing anyway.
With that GFX, your best bet is the photo panorama scenery, which you could get away with 100% quality with... if not, then just under max settings. Panorama is markedly less taxing on the GFX (and CPU)... I know that from GPU and CPU load and temperature monitor logs.
And with the airplane graphics (which is very good quality at best), you might get away with 100% quality IF you're in the panorama scenery (because then the only polygon calculations are from the aircraft).
edit: If you end up setting panorama a lot lower than 100%, then you'll see it as blurryness (or like a grainy photo) which you don't notice so much during flying. The trees in the distance for example are not much affected. And likewise with the aircraft graphics, when you're flying, it's further away half the time.
You've got a good amount of RAM (758 MB) which always helps. I only have 512 MB and I have no complaints.
Your screen resolution is set relatively high. You might also try a slightly lower screen resolution setting like 1024x768 to get more oomph from your GFX for FSOne. You don't want to go too low of course, but even one-step lower can give you a lot more performance while retaining decent pixel depth.
EDIT: I just confirmed that your chipset is roughly the same as an ATI 9200 (maybe a bit less, maybe a bit more). So whether you can have both aircraft and panorama at 100%... can't say for sure. Purely linear comparisons of GFX's is not entirely possible. But ATI 9200 as I recall is on the lowest end of the minimum GFX hardware for FSOne.
***** Hopefully someone here has flown the H9 Corsair and can answer how close the FSOne corsair is to the real one.
I would guess that generally you'll need to put the 3D scenery details and quality to medium for your integrated GFX (edit: or actually even a bit lower than medium). But the lower setting won't necessarily have a huge impact and the 3D scenery is not mind blowing anyway.
With that GFX, your best bet is the photo panorama scenery, which you could get away with 100% quality with... if not, then just under max settings. Panorama is markedly less taxing on the GFX (and CPU)... I know that from GPU and CPU load and temperature monitor logs.
And with the airplane graphics (which is very good quality at best), you might get away with 100% quality IF you're in the panorama scenery (because then the only polygon calculations are from the aircraft).
edit: If you end up setting panorama a lot lower than 100%, then you'll see it as blurryness (or like a grainy photo) which you don't notice so much during flying. The trees in the distance for example are not much affected. And likewise with the aircraft graphics, when you're flying, it's further away half the time.
You've got a good amount of RAM (758 MB) which always helps. I only have 512 MB and I have no complaints.
Your screen resolution is set relatively high. You might also try a slightly lower screen resolution setting like 1024x768 to get more oomph from your GFX for FSOne. You don't want to go too low of course, but even one-step lower can give you a lot more performance while retaining decent pixel depth.
EDIT: I just confirmed that your chipset is roughly the same as an ATI 9200 (maybe a bit less, maybe a bit more). So whether you can have both aircraft and panorama at 100%... can't say for sure. Purely linear comparisons of GFX's is not entirely possible. But ATI 9200 as I recall is on the lowest end of the minimum GFX hardware for FSOne.
***** Hopefully someone here has flown the H9 Corsair and can answer how close the FSOne corsair is to the real one.
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Regarding you equipment specs.
FSOne software will run, but you will have to run lower resolutions and only in Pano mode. The issue you will have is that you will not be able to read any menus for adjusting the software. I had this trouble and believe me it is frustrating. Frankly I wouldn't bother. If you don't have a pc that meets the minimum specs put out by Horizon/FSOne, they wait or try someone else's software, because you will only be frustrated.
About the transmitter, do yourself a favor, no matter who's software you get, buy the version with the transmitter. This will be one less headache you will have while setting the software up.
Best of luck
Scott H
FSOne software will run, but you will have to run lower resolutions and only in Pano mode. The issue you will have is that you will not be able to read any menus for adjusting the software. I had this trouble and believe me it is frustrating. Frankly I wouldn't bother. If you don't have a pc that meets the minimum specs put out by Horizon/FSOne, they wait or try someone else's software, because you will only be frustrated.
About the transmitter, do yourself a favor, no matter who's software you get, buy the version with the transmitter. This will be one less headache you will have while setting the software up.
Best of luck
Scott H
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It took a little time for to "get it" but now I understand where your coming from. I'll check the web site you provided!
Smiles Man, and thanks again!
Smiles Man, and thanks again!
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adwb:
With my ATI 9250 which is roughly in the same ball park as your GFX, I was able to use the menus and they looked perfect too.
It's possible that some manually set accelerator settings (set outside of FSOne) can ruin the way the menus look. Just an example: I manually put my antialiasing setting to max, which improves the airplane graphics, but distorts some small details in the menus (only a slight distortion though).
So if you go ahead with it, and have some menu issues, check your manually set accelerator settings (outside FSOne)... might be something in there doing it. I don't see why the GFX would not be capable of displaying the menus.
edit: But as sctholson said, if your comp is not clearly within the specs, then you can't know for sure. Like I added to my earlier post, your GFX could be slightly less than an ATI 9200 (which is minimum). Generally laptops are not the greatest for gaming type applications, if for no other reason, they do not dissipate heat nearly as well as desktops (overheating can lead to instability and hence symptoms like system lockups).
With my ATI 9250 which is roughly in the same ball park as your GFX, I was able to use the menus and they looked perfect too.
It's possible that some manually set accelerator settings (set outside of FSOne) can ruin the way the menus look. Just an example: I manually put my antialiasing setting to max, which improves the airplane graphics, but distorts some small details in the menus (only a slight distortion though).
So if you go ahead with it, and have some menu issues, check your manually set accelerator settings (outside FSOne)... might be something in there doing it. I don't see why the GFX would not be capable of displaying the menus.
edit: But as sctholson said, if your comp is not clearly within the specs, then you can't know for sure. Like I added to my earlier post, your GFX could be slightly less than an ATI 9200 (which is minimum). Generally laptops are not the greatest for gaming type applications, if for no other reason, they do not dissipate heat nearly as well as desktops (overheating can lead to instability and hence symptoms like system lockups).
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Howard, Sorry but not enough information.
1) does your computer meet all the hardware specifications
2) did you get the software with a transmitter
3) did you calibrate the transmitter you are using
4) which plane are you flying
5) which field are you selecting
1) does your computer meet all the hardware specifications
2) did you get the software with a transmitter
3) did you calibrate the transmitter you are using
4) which plane are you flying
5) which field are you selecting
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Make sure you've downloaded and installed the latest patch.
The problem you're having is that the TacCon buttons did not get calibrated.
When you go through the calibration sequence, be sure to press these buttons when it says to do so ...
otherwise you get the problem you described.
Michael
The problem you're having is that the TacCon buttons did not get calibrated.
When you go through the calibration sequence, be sure to press these buttons when it says to do so ...
otherwise you get the problem you described.
Michael
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Yes, I had installed the latest patch and did the calibration again.
I am running XP; 2.40GHZ; 1 GB of Ram
I can only use a PCI card and I am running GeForce FX5500 nVidia. I think this is about as fast as I can go with a PCI input. I have more than the minimum requirements that FSONe needs. Depressing.
Howard
I am running XP; 2.40GHZ; 1 GB of Ram
I can only use a PCI card and I am running GeForce FX5500 nVidia. I think this is about as fast as I can go with a PCI input. I have more than the minimum requirements that FSONe needs. Depressing.
Howard
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Yes, I had installed the latest patch and did the calibration again.
I am running XP; 2.40GHZ; 1 GB of Ram
I can only use a PCI card and I am running GeForce FX5500 nVidia. I think this is about as fast as I can go with a PCI input. I have more than the minimum requirements that FSONe needs. Depressing.
Howard
Yes, I had installed the latest patch and did the calibration again.
I am running XP; 2.40GHZ; 1 GB of Ram
I can only use a PCI card and I am running GeForce FX5500 nVidia. I think this is about as fast as I can go with a PCI input. I have more than the minimum requirements that FSONe needs. Depressing.
Howard
Michael
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Yes, I have the TacCon cotroller and have gone through the steps several times...including pressing the button(s) several times.
Thanks for bearing with me.
Howard
Yes, I have the TacCon cotroller and have gone through the steps several times...including pressing the button(s) several times.
Thanks for bearing with me.
Howard
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I just went through the sequence again. When I go full throttle, it sputters and the messages in the upper left of the screen show; "starter engaged..engine running" and it sputters.
Thanks,
Howard
Thanks,
Howard
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Yes same thing...same messages...starter engaged...engine running. (needs to run on all the cylinders.....)
Howard
Yes same thing...same messages...starter engaged...engine running. (needs to run on all the cylinders.....)
Howard
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I just doubled checked about the transmitter. I had not set it up right. The T-34 Jr worked! Funny when it came up it was sitting on it's belly since the gear switch was up. Got it reset (had to use the keyboard) and away we went. Crashed twice..would not loop good with the gear down! That part worked, any other ideas?
Thanks for getting me going and at least it is not my hardware!
Howard
Thanks for getting me going and at least it is not my hardware!
Howard
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Hey Michael,
Glad you see you around. Hope all is well.
Howard, now that you've got one plane - transmitter combo working, go back to the other setup. Pick any plane and make sure you get the correct transmitter. you may still need to calibrate it. Eventually you'll find your grove with the software and begin loving it. One thing I've found with the software, if there are instructions, do not skip a step. Each step is vitally important to the next. It maybe something very simple, so no matter what, follow those instructions.
Scott H
Glad you see you around. Hope all is well.
Howard, now that you've got one plane - transmitter combo working, go back to the other setup. Pick any plane and make sure you get the correct transmitter. you may still need to calibrate it. Eventually you'll find your grove with the software and begin loving it. One thing I've found with the software, if there are instructions, do not skip a step. Each step is vitally important to the next. It maybe something very simple, so no matter what, follow those instructions.
Scott H
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I'm glad to hear that things are working - part way.
The fact that you can fly w/ the other Tx setup in FS One tells me that something about the buttons is not getting calibrated correctly. The "6-Ch Emu" Tx setups remove the buttons and like you figured out you can use the keyboard for resets.
You'll notice that when you pick a different airplane, it will automatically pick the TacCon Tx setup. If you want to keep using the 6-Ch setup for now (eliminating the buttons), there's a checkbox in Options that turns off the "autoload" of the TacCon Tx setup. Turn off that feature. With that off, there's no autoload so you'll need to pick the right Tx for each airplane ... that is, until the issue gets sorted out.
Back to the issue, you can try this: Go to the Microsoft Game Controller Gadget in the Control Panel (outside of FS One). Pick the TacCon controller. Look and see of the sliders move when you press the TacCon buttons. If one slider moves when you press the buttons (both buttons), then the buttons are working properly - nothing wrong w/ the physical TacCon hardware. If all that happens, then it all goes back to the calibaration issue in the sim. Like Scott mentioned, you don't want to skip a step, but based on what you've said you're not missing anything there ... so I'm still stumped (for now).
(Scott, Yes!, back on the forums here. I went through a move lately - gasp!)
Michael
The fact that you can fly w/ the other Tx setup in FS One tells me that something about the buttons is not getting calibrated correctly. The "6-Ch Emu" Tx setups remove the buttons and like you figured out you can use the keyboard for resets.
You'll notice that when you pick a different airplane, it will automatically pick the TacCon Tx setup. If you want to keep using the 6-Ch setup for now (eliminating the buttons), there's a checkbox in Options that turns off the "autoload" of the TacCon Tx setup. Turn off that feature. With that off, there's no autoload so you'll need to pick the right Tx for each airplane ... that is, until the issue gets sorted out.
Back to the issue, you can try this: Go to the Microsoft Game Controller Gadget in the Control Panel (outside of FS One). Pick the TacCon controller. Look and see of the sliders move when you press the TacCon buttons. If one slider moves when you press the buttons (both buttons), then the buttons are working properly - nothing wrong w/ the physical TacCon hardware. If all that happens, then it all goes back to the calibaration issue in the sim. Like Scott mentioned, you don't want to skip a step, but based on what you've said you're not missing anything there ... so I'm still stumped (for now).
(Scott, Yes!, back on the forums here. I went through a move lately - gasp!)
Michael
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HELLO (again) FSONE support personnel.
I need help IN A BAD WAY......Your staff helped me to get the SIM going. The PC problem was dealt with a DIRECT CONNECTION from your HORIZON office ( Brian? - Mike? )and finally it was decided that it would work well if I purchased the original system TACON.....this was DONE.
NOW there are just two things that are not working and render the SIM : UN-USEABLE !!!!
- the RESET does not work, and this makes me click the ESC button which resets after a complete cycle ( about 4 or 5 minutes ).. this gets OLD, quick, but is the least of my problems ! :
2 - the WORST PART : ( need to practice HELI ) is that the model HELIS are so EXTREMELY SENSITIVE that it becomes impossible to fly (or learn anything ! ) .... it is impossible to INPUT STICK MOVEMENT small enough.....the helicopter just skoots off in any direction, the slightest touch reverses the direction and the machines fly off as if POSSESSED. This happens on any model heli, even the DOUBLE BLADED ONES.
a sensitivity of this magnitude makes it impossible to fly.....I CANNOT EVEN GET A HELI TO HOLD A HOVER ,,,, The drift off is immediate, AND EXPONENTIAL, to make it even worse. In a fraction of a second the heli is gone : O O S
I KNOW THAT I AM GIVING A CORRECT DESCRIPTION OF THE FS-ONE DEFECT, because I can HOVER quite well in real life : Electrics AND the Raptor 30.....so it should work in the SIM....but : NOT
Is HORIZON willing to help, as was done before ???????
Thanks for reading.. RICHARD F. BARR
I need help IN A BAD WAY......Your staff helped me to get the SIM going. The PC problem was dealt with a DIRECT CONNECTION from your HORIZON office ( Brian? - Mike? )and finally it was decided that it would work well if I purchased the original system TACON.....this was DONE.
NOW there are just two things that are not working and render the SIM : UN-USEABLE !!!!
- the RESET does not work, and this makes me click the ESC button which resets after a complete cycle ( about 4 or 5 minutes ).. this gets OLD, quick, but is the least of my problems ! :
2 - the WORST PART : ( need to practice HELI ) is that the model HELIS are so EXTREMELY SENSITIVE that it becomes impossible to fly (or learn anything ! ) .... it is impossible to INPUT STICK MOVEMENT small enough.....the helicopter just skoots off in any direction, the slightest touch reverses the direction and the machines fly off as if POSSESSED. This happens on any model heli, even the DOUBLE BLADED ONES.
a sensitivity of this magnitude makes it impossible to fly.....I CANNOT EVEN GET A HELI TO HOLD A HOVER ,,,, The drift off is immediate, AND EXPONENTIAL, to make it even worse. In a fraction of a second the heli is gone : O O S
I KNOW THAT I AM GIVING A CORRECT DESCRIPTION OF THE FS-ONE DEFECT, because I can HOVER quite well in real life : Electrics AND the Raptor 30.....so it should work in the SIM....but : NOT
Is HORIZON willing to help, as was done before ???????
Thanks for reading.. RICHARD F. BARR
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For some reason the electric helis do that. I've tried adding loads of expo to roll/pitch, which helps but there is still the throttle/collective crazyness. Have you tried having a look at the heli mix settings? I don't know enough about it myself, but I've been thinking there could be something wrong in there.
The glow helis do not do this however and seem to be fine as default: Voyager 50 and Bell are the best IMO. I have a blast with the Voyager 50 [8D]
Make sure you have the heli update installed.
The glow helis do not do this however and seem to be fine as default: Voyager 50 and Bell are the best IMO. I have a blast with the Voyager 50 [8D]
Make sure you have the heli update installed.
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Richard,
Are you trying to fly the biggest helis? The bigger the more stable. Also, it concerns me that you can fly/hover in real life, but not in the sim. Seems quite odd. I might try to change the sim multiplier setting from 1.0 to .5 or something like that to see if it made a difference. But it might be even better to call Horizon's tech support and get them on the phone to deal with this directly.
Also, make sure that you have all the updates done, complete calibration, drivers updated - maybe you know all this already, if so, I apologize for repeating this.
I know it can be quite frustrating.
Best of luck
Scott H
Are you trying to fly the biggest helis? The bigger the more stable. Also, it concerns me that you can fly/hover in real life, but not in the sim. Seems quite odd. I might try to change the sim multiplier setting from 1.0 to .5 or something like that to see if it made a difference. But it might be even better to call Horizon's tech support and get them on the phone to deal with this directly.
Also, make sure that you have all the updates done, complete calibration, drivers updated - maybe you know all this already, if so, I apologize for repeating this.
I know it can be quite frustrating.
Best of luck
Scott H


