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Old 10-20-2006 | 08:22 AM
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The center channel plays all the engine sounds while flying in the field.
Once flying the engine cuts out (completly). It happens radomly with about 1 sec break ups
This noise is coming from the center channel only (as it should)

Once I crash The music will start to randomly cut in and out through the other 4 speakers.
THen it will cut completly out and start making a popping/cracking.


One idea about this is it may be creative that needs to put out the patch and not FS One.

I use several other games, simulators on this computer and the sound all owrks flawlessly, so that makes me think it is FS One.

Previously I tried moving my audio performance slider down a few notches. If I move it all the way down, I get stero sound. Engine and music through 2 speakers, not 5, and the cutting out goes away.

Was the program written to handle 5.1 sound?
Old 10-21-2006 | 03:52 PM
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Hi all, newbie here, and the older I get the smarter I was... My son just got into this hobby also, he bought a "Futaba SkySport 4 model T4VF" and is building an
RC airplane, the reason for the FS One. We connected it to the USB interface and looked for a listing in the tansmitter area and couldn't find it listed. We then decided on the Alpha 40 other controllers from there we selected the "Alternate Alpha 40" and calibrated it as such. Tried flying the Alpha 40 and could not control it. Did notice that the Primary control inputs listed we pretty much the same as the listing for the "Tac Con" . We calibrated the Tac Con for the Alpha 40 and it worked all ok. Did we select the proper controller calibration setup for the Fataba. If not can you pse point us in the righr direction ... Thanks Manny
Old 10-21-2006 | 06:20 PM
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How do I find out if my computer has window blinds on it? Every time I fly a plane, the computer reboots while in flight. I have a HP media center at 2.8 ghz with 2 gb ram. NVIDIA geforce 6200se. Not very computer literate but would like to fly sim. Thanks....Rich
Old 10-21-2006 | 07:21 PM
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Windowsblinds is a program that will change the way windows looks on your computer. You can make windows look like windows vista, or like an apple computer operating system. If you don't know if you have it, you probably don't. It has no performance qualities, it is strictly to make your desktop and icons look different. Look it up on google and you will see what it is.

Old 10-21-2006 | 08:06 PM
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Since it seems that a number of folk make use of Window Blinds to produce an 'In Cognito' experience, would it appropriate for the FS One developers to take a look at the crashing problem and perhaps work out a solution, or at least determine the root cause and pass that on.
Old 10-22-2006 | 07:03 AM
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Well I have been working with the FS One (and I mean working). I have had the Reflex and Aerofly Pro deluxe and I can say I like the Aerofly Pro better. FS one is too complicated, slow and hard to navigate. It is a major deal just to get it setup to fly decent. I can build a plane and not take near as much time to set it up and trim as this sim does. Why would a software take over an hour to load? Setting up the radio is cumbersome and the help menus are not the best. I also do not see any advantage of this sim over the Aerofly other than it has more bells and whistles which how many will you ever use.

I will still continue to work with the software but I have considered putting it on ebay.
Old 10-22-2006 | 06:20 PM
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I still can't understand( well actually I can but find it mind boggling) that a software companies release programs that need so much tweaking. AARRGGHH. I for one will not be purchasing FSONE, at least not for a while. In my job I have to set up and learn at least one new program a week. There is nothing that turns me off faster than having to deal with simple programing flaws.

FSONE- you need to rethink your policy on "selling" the program to the public. I usually shy away from a software company thet dumps this many problems on the buyer with a new release. I'll check out your program in 6 months.
Old 10-22-2006 | 07:31 PM
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Having been involved in using, testing and developing systems software since 1969 on numerous platforms, I can assure you that faults in design or just plain erroneous coding are a common place theme for all but the most simple of products.

Some of these issues you are hearing about are only being experienced by a handful of people as a result of the possibly millions of combinations of hardware/software conditions that could never be fully anticipated or tested against. The implementation of the operating environment has been the biggest contributor to this dilemma (and one of the reasons for its own growth as well).

Like it or not, eventually it is the real world variances that prove to be the best testing condition. The real measure is how the supplier deals with that reality to satisfy its customer base. Frankly, I think it is still too early to form a solid opinion yet, but to some degree it is looking good.

Next time you buy a Cad-Cam system for several thousand dollars and have to wait an intolerable amount of time to resolve issues, you will will think of FS One as being clean.
Old 10-22-2006 | 07:41 PM
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I purchased the FS1 sim the day it came out. Installation was time consuming, but without a glitch. I did have an one issue with the sim right away. However, with a phone call and a helpful tech I was directed to the SW patch. The patch was downloaded from the site and auto-installed. No more issues......
Old 10-22-2006 | 08:01 PM
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I am considering a new flight sim and want to set it up on a 62' DLP TV 1080p. How will it look? I have flown the G2 alot and once the FSONE. I fly the Funtana 90 and it seemed real to me. I really need a good sim with graphics and realism for training in the off season.
Old 10-23-2006 | 12:45 AM
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ORIGINAL: Manny19

Hi all, newbie here, and the older I get the smarter I was... My son just got into this hobby also, he bought a "Futaba SkySport 4 model T4VF" and is building an
RC airplane, the reason for the FS One. We connected it to the USB interface and looked for a listing in the tansmitter area and couldn't find it listed. We then decided on the Alpha 40 other controllers from there we selected the "Alternate Alpha 40" and calibrated it as such. Tried flying the Alpha 40 and could not control it. Did notice that the Primary control inputs listed we pretty much the same as the listing for the "Tac Con" . We calibrated the Tac Con for the Alpha 40 and it worked all ok. Did we select the proper controller calibration setup for the Fataba. If not can you pse point us in the righr direction ... Thanks Manny
I've put together an FAQ to cover this for the simple case of using a 4-channel Fut radio w/ the Alpha 40 airplane.

How can I use my Futaba T4VF 4-channel transmitter with FS One (4-Ch Fut)? (Q1027-FS1, 10/22/06)
http://www.inertiasoft.com/fsonefaq/#Q1027-FS1


Let me know if you need more information (details).

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Old 10-23-2006 | 09:30 AM
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Thanks Mselig for info on setting up the 4 channel Futaba. Haven't tried it as yet, will wait for my son to come home. Been reading where some have become frustrated with stuff that just don't go right and I can see their point. It brings back to me, the years I worked as a "Field Service Eng" . When our company introduced a new machine we had many service calls on both hardware and software problems which were all eventually fixed. This resulted in a very happy customer base and some time off for us guys. But the most important reward was that our customer sales were always high and many customers told me that the reason they bought our machines was because of customer support. I have only had two issues so far with FS One, mostly because I am new to all this RC stuff and I am not too swift anymore, old age seems to that to a fella. The way I see it, any future problems that I have or think I have (Cockpit problems), all I have to do is let it be known to the FS One support crew and it will be taken care of..... Thank you all ... Manny
Old 10-23-2006 | 10:02 AM
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Is it just me, or do the hand launches seem to have an unrealistic amount of force behind them? I have never been able to throw my model into the air with the amount of force simulated.
Old 10-23-2006 | 10:28 AM
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You need to work out a little more [sm=lol.gif]

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I did not have any software loading issues except the long time it took to load into my computer. Even loading a plane and scene to fly take more time then the competitors do. I feel the product on a reliability standpoint is fine but it is just very cumbersome to work with. Using the Kiss method was never thought of when they developed the adjustments and other menus. 1 to 10 on a user friendly scale it is about a 3!
Old 10-23-2006 | 12:13 PM
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Does anybody have any information about addons?

I would like to know if they will be upgraded for free, or go the route of G3.

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I went to both websites and don't see my problem. When I fly most of the planes, after a short time the computer reboots. I can fly the bobcat, texan and 33%edge. All the other planes I have tried just reboots. I couldn't find the window blinds so must not have the program. I am using a HP Pavillion Pentium D with 2.8 GHz and 2 GB ram. 289GB hard drive, GEFORCE 6200SE turbo cashe w 256 mb mem. Running with Media center edition 2002 pack 2.

When it is working, having a great time. Getting discouraged with all the reboots.

Thanks......Rich
Old 10-23-2006 | 08:32 PM
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Will FSone addons cost money? And if so, can you ballpark it?

Edit: Sorry just realized the person above me asked the same question []
Old 10-23-2006 | 08:42 PM
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Just tried FS1 on a 100'' DLP Projector using a RS232 cable and it worked fabulous. Not sure how the resolution will be on your unit though.
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ORIGINAL: octanehuffer

I am considering a new flight sim and want to set it up on a 62' DLP TV 1080p. How will it look? I have flown the G2 alot and once the FSONE. I fly the Funtana 90 and it seemed real to me. I really need a good sim with graphics and realism for training in the off season.
FS One should be able to handle your 1080p fine. For example, I use a 1920x1200 LCD and it works great with that. Of course, my display is only 24" -- not the 62" that you have.

I suppose most people seeing your display will have "display envy"!
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ORIGINAL: sawdust858

I went to both websites and don't see my problem. When I fly most of the planes, after a short time the computer reboots. I can fly the bobcat, texan and 33%edge. All the other planes I have tried just reboots. I couldn't find the window blinds so must not have the program. I am using a HP Pavillion Pentium D with 2.8 GHz and 2 GB ram. 289GB hard drive, GEFORCE 6200SE turbo cashe w 256 mb mem. Running with Media center edition 2002 pack 2.

When it is working, having a great time. Getting discouraged with all the reboots.

Thanks......Rich
Rich -- If you haven't already done so, please give Hangar9 support a call. That way, your issues will tracked and if a solution is identified, they can call you back with the fix. They may also be able to help you troubleshoot over the phone and get things fixed.

Are you sure that you have the latest drivers for the GF 6200SE?

The other item that I notice is that you're using Media Center. We used Media Center during beta testing without problems, but we have heard of a couple of reports in the past week with users using Media Center. It's not clear if that is the cause of their problems, but we're looking into that now and if we determine any issues with Media Center, we'll post a patch right away.
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ORIGINAL: Harley Licht

I am using a Futaba 6XA and/or a G2/G3 controller for all of my simulator use since the FS ONE Mode 1 controllers are not yet shipping.
...... and I fly Mode 1.

...

Thank you,
Harley
I removed some stuff from your post above. I think what's below will help w/ your Futaba radio.

I just posted this stuff below in another RCU Futaba question thread, so sorry for the dup. The FAQs below cover 4-channel and 8/9-channel Futaba radios. In your case w/ 6-channels the basic approach given in the FAQs will apply. Pick a baseline 6-channel emulator setup for your radio and go through the instructions given. Let me know if you have more questions.

There's now a new FAQ to cover how to setup FS One with the Futaba T9CAP computer radio. The instructions are long because I tried to spell out in detail each step. I went through these steps to test it - all OK. The general approach outlined can be used with practically ANY Futaba transmitter. There's a similar FAQ for a 4 channel Futaba (listed below as well).

Some people might look at this and think it's long, but let's all remember how long the manuals are for JR and Futaba 8+ channel computer radios ... they're not so short. So setting up an FS One MiG-15 jet w/ throttle, rudder, elevator, ailerons, flaps, airbrakes, flight modes ... is, well, not so short. But I think once the basic concepts are in hand, it gets a lot easier.

It's about a 5 min operation once things on the real Transmitter side are setup the way you want them to be, i.e. what functions are on what switches and knobs in the case of the T9CAP. For the 4 channel Futaba, things are easier ... but the discussion is still pretty long to help the beginners w/ 4 channel radios.

How can I use my Futaba T9CAP 9-channel transmitter with FS One (9-Ch Fut)? (Q1028-FS1, 10/23/06)
http://www.inertiasoft.com/fsonefaq/#Q1028-FS1

How can I use my Futaba T4VF 4-channel transmitter with FS One (4-Ch Fut)? (Q1027-FS1, 10/22/06)
http://www.inertiasoft.com/fsonefaq/#Q1027-FS1


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ORIGINAL: Redwings

I did not have any software loading issues except the long time it took to load into my computer. Even loading a plane and scene to fly take more time then the competitors do. I feel the product on a reliability standpoint is fine but it is just very cumbersome to work with. Using the Kiss method was never thought of when they developed the adjustments and other menus. 1 to 10 on a user friendly scale it is about a 3!
Load times for picking aircraft, flying sites, skyscapes and transmitters would be a lot quicker if we just presented a list of names (of planes and sites, etc) like the competitors do. Instead we show the list with pictures of all the aircraft , sites, etc. We think this approach is better ... because it leads to less poking around through nested menus. Second the load time for picking an airplane is long only the first time. After that the images are in memory and it goes real fast. When the sim starts the extra time for loading is due to aerodynamics. We load A LOT of aero files, and obviously that's not something we can do without. Load times also depend on the size and speed of the drive. Laptops run slower and smaller drives (smaller diameter discs) so they are slow. Drives on desktops are better - but they too come in a variety of flavors. I'll say ... if we could make things go faster we would.

Michael
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ORIGINAL: Iquit214

Is it just me, or do the hand launches seem to have an unrealistic amount of force behind them? I have never been able to throw my model into the air with the amount of force simulated.
In the sim, the aircraft are thrown for a fixed amount of time at a fixed g-load. The toss is 3 g's. So for a 4 lb airplane, the toss force is 12 lbs for a set amount of time. If the aircraft weighs 30 lbs, then the toss force is (gulp) 90 lbs. Yes, that's a lot, but we wanted people to be able to toss any aircraft in the sim.

Michael
Old 10-24-2006 | 07:55 AM
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Yes, that's a lot, but we wanted people to be able to toss any aircraft in the sim.

anyone else see the irony in that statement?

Really though, fsone isnt too bad, nothing feels "right" to me though.. I have an alpha, a twist, a blade cp and a blade cx, and none of them fly right. They all have certain tendancies that the pilots of them know all about, and the sim doesnt reflect any of them, which makes you question it a bit.

Like the blade cp, there isnt a stock blade cp in the world that holds its tail that nicely. And the CX? You cant piro both ways that fast, its a fast piro one way, and a slow piro the other, also throttle should affect piro speed and it doesnt...

Those are kinda basic things, the CX issue being the most obvious, because it has to do with torque modeling and that should have been the focus in helies...

Overal, not too bad, but for me (and its just another opinion), not worth buying since i already have a sim.


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