Futaba FASST feedback and TESTING
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RE: Futaba FASST 6
Remove the grommet from the damaged lead and position in approximately the same place on the new one.
Pic 7: The grommet in place on the new lead.
Pic 8: Clip the new lead onto the receptor on the rx (do not use excessive force) you will feel the ‘click’ as it locates.
Pic 7: The grommet in place on the new lead.
Pic 8: Clip the new lead onto the receptor on the rx (do not use excessive force) you will feel the ‘click’ as it locates.
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RE: Futaba FASST 6
When placing the rx back into the case you will notice some moulded plastic protrusions.
Pic: 9 The orange arrow points to an important protrusion. The green line shows the path that the rx aerial (only the one of them) must take to prevent what you see in pic 10.
Pic 10: The orange arrow shows how the coax can rub against the other fitting if the correct path is not followed (see pic 9)
Pic: 9 The orange arrow points to an important protrusion. The green line shows the path that the rx aerial (only the one of them) must take to prevent what you see in pic 10.
Pic 10: The orange arrow shows how the coax can rub against the other fitting if the correct path is not followed (see pic 9)
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RE: Futaba FASST 6
Take great care to ensure the path is correct (pic 9/10) and the grommets sit in to the correct locations (pic 11)
Pic 11: Grommets in position, ensure no strain on the aerials inside the rx.
Pic 12: Clip case back in to position, ensuring that the grommets are correctly located as you do so. (Orange arrows)
Well, that is it, job done, now test the rx and ensure you do a full range check before use.
Hope this is of use to you all.
Paul
Pic 11: Grommets in position, ensure no strain on the aerials inside the rx.
Pic 12: Clip case back in to position, ensuring that the grommets are correctly located as you do so. (Orange arrows)
Well, that is it, job done, now test the rx and ensure you do a full range check before use.
Hope this is of use to you all.
Paul
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RE: Futaba FASST 6
As promised see pics of my new aerial install in the L39.
The V is made of 1/16 inch fibreglass board.
The transparent tubes are glued to the surface.
Paul [sm=49_49.gif]
The V is made of 1/16 inch fibreglass board.
The transparent tubes are glued to the surface.
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RE: Futaba FASST feedback and TESTING
The Outlaw RPVT in action at Yuma testing grounds
Can you believe these guys are getting paid BIG BUCKS to fly RC.
Why didn't I apply for this job?
Video: http://www.griffon-aerospace.com/vid...eoTitle=Outlaw RPVT &VideoDesc=The Outlaw RPVT in action at Yuma testing grounds
Can you believe these guys are getting paid BIG BUCKS to fly RC.
Why didn't I apply for this job?
Video: http://www.griffon-aerospace.com/vid...eoTitle=Outlaw RPVT &VideoDesc=The Outlaw RPVT in action at Yuma testing grounds
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RE: Futaba FASST feedback and TESTING
Well we are back on air at last
The virus problem must have been sorted.
Looks like some posts have been removed.
Anyway guys, thanks for the feedback on the instructions [8D]
I thought it would be a good idea to post them as it is a simple job that you should not have to do unless you are careless.......(like I was with a scalpel ...doe) [sm=red_smile.gif]
But it can happen to anyone (I keep telling myself that). [sm=72_72.gif]
Good weather is forecast here tomorrow and both the L39 and Hawk are ready to be ‘wrung out’.
I will report back after.
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RE: Futaba FASST feedback and TESTING
The weather was not as good as initially thought today, so I only got to fly the L39.[sm=sad_smile.gif]
Flights took place in a very damp atmosphere due to continual showers and even a hailstorm.[sm=50_50.gif]
In the good bits in between, the sky was clear enough to fly the L39 to extreme height.
It was that high in fact that club member with me lost sight of it (glad I didn’t) .[sm=72_72.gif]
Well, the FASST system performed perfectly, the range is way more than I can see the models, so that is good enough for me.
In all the flights I had the model was flown out very wide and I also executed many ‘snap’ manoeuvres. At all times the system was rock solid.
This was also while other FASST users were airborne.
I am now totally sold on the suitability of this system in jets, it is very impressive indeed.
Good install principles still remain, just because it is good does not mean that risks should be taken in the model.
I still keep the rx and aerials away from the ECU, battery leads and pump. It is also advisable to keep the aerials away from any metal objects and carbon fibre. The tests I have done indicate that carbon is not an issue…however ..these are simple ground tests and until it can be confirmed in the air, I will follow common sense rules that say don’t do it.
Futaba have got it spot on IMHO. The simplicity of the install, the lack of additional rx’s and (in my case) no need for power busses or high powered packs. I just removed the 35 meg rx and replaced it with the FASST one, no other changes were needed.
My jets run on standard AA size nickel/hydride cells of between 2 and 3amp capacity, no trouble at all.
In all the testing I have done, on the ground, in prop models and now in jets I have never been able to break the rf link, it is just so solid it is amazing.
I look forward to better weather and the show season to get started in the UK…..no waiting for the peg/pin….how good is that.[sm=thumbup.gif][sm=49_49.gif][sm=wink_smile.gif]
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Flights took place in a very damp atmosphere due to continual showers and even a hailstorm.[sm=50_50.gif]
In the good bits in between, the sky was clear enough to fly the L39 to extreme height.
It was that high in fact that club member with me lost sight of it (glad I didn’t) .[sm=72_72.gif]
Well, the FASST system performed perfectly, the range is way more than I can see the models, so that is good enough for me.
In all the flights I had the model was flown out very wide and I also executed many ‘snap’ manoeuvres. At all times the system was rock solid.
This was also while other FASST users were airborne.
I am now totally sold on the suitability of this system in jets, it is very impressive indeed.
Good install principles still remain, just because it is good does not mean that risks should be taken in the model.
I still keep the rx and aerials away from the ECU, battery leads and pump. It is also advisable to keep the aerials away from any metal objects and carbon fibre. The tests I have done indicate that carbon is not an issue…however ..these are simple ground tests and until it can be confirmed in the air, I will follow common sense rules that say don’t do it.
Futaba have got it spot on IMHO. The simplicity of the install, the lack of additional rx’s and (in my case) no need for power busses or high powered packs. I just removed the 35 meg rx and replaced it with the FASST one, no other changes were needed.
My jets run on standard AA size nickel/hydride cells of between 2 and 3amp capacity, no trouble at all.
In all the testing I have done, on the ground, in prop models and now in jets I have never been able to break the rf link, it is just so solid it is amazing.
I look forward to better weather and the show season to get started in the UK…..no waiting for the peg/pin….how good is that.[sm=thumbup.gif][sm=49_49.gif][sm=wink_smile.gif]
Paul
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RE: Futaba FASST feedback and TESTING
I have just started using the Futaba Tm 14 module and R6014FS receivers with my 12Z.
This weekend I tested them out in an old prop plane which was fitted with futaba servos and all worked very well.
I am about to convert my jets and large petrol Aircraft to 2.4 which are all fitted with Jr servo''s, but having read on other threads about servo compatability due to the receiver signal output voltages being lower I am concerned there may be a problem.
Has anyone had any problems using JR digital and analogue servos with the R6014FS receiver?
Regards
Arthur
This weekend I tested them out in an old prop plane which was fitted with futaba servos and all worked very well.
I am about to convert my jets and large petrol Aircraft to 2.4 which are all fitted with Jr servo''s, but having read on other threads about servo compatability due to the receiver signal output voltages being lower I am concerned there may be a problem.
Has anyone had any problems using JR digital and analogue servos with the R6014FS receiver?
Regards
Arthur
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on the "old" receivers 149DP etc, you could plug in a battery on every channel you wanted.
Does anybody knows if this is still the same on the Fasst receivers?
Just checkin before I fry my 6014 :-)
Does anybody knows if this is still the same on the Fasst receivers?
Just checkin before I fry my 6014 :-)
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on the "old" receivers 149DP etc, you could plug in a battery on every channel you wanted.
Does anybody knows if this is still the same on the Fasst receivers?
Just checkin before I fry my 6014 :-)
on the "old" receivers 149DP etc, you could plug in a battery on every channel you wanted.
Does anybody knows if this is still the same on the Fasst receivers?
Just checkin before I fry my 6014 :-)
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RE: Futaba FASST 6
Thanks for the thanks
Yes you can plug in a power source on any servo position.
My Hawk has 2 power leads through 2 switches to 1 battery.
I have this system plugged into the 14 channel rx.
No problems.
With regard to servos, my Hawk is all hitec, and running on a 14 RX, again, I have no issues.
Paul
Yes you can plug in a power source on any servo position.
My Hawk has 2 power leads through 2 switches to 1 battery.
I have this system plugged into the 14 channel rx.
No problems.
With regard to servos, my Hawk is all hitec, and running on a 14 RX, again, I have no issues.
Paul
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RE: Futaba FASST 6
Hi,
Ok I just found out that my Powerbox 40/16 evolution (6 months old) does not work with the R6014 lower signal voltage ........ Here is the mails exchange between myself and Emmerich from Modelbou Deutch (manufacturer)
This signal voltage stuff is getting annoying ....
Hello Mickel,
no, this PB is an version what need an input signal of 2,8 Volts.
Please send us this PB in the factory, we change the input voltage of the signal, then is all o.k. this service is free for you. We cannot know before that Futaba make such a mistake, since 50 years ago all receivers in the world have a minimum signal voltage of 3,0 volts.
We and all modellers hope that Futaba bring in some month the receiver 6114 with a normal signal of 3,0 volts. Many other electronic parts are also not function, servos, electronic valves, door sequencer , gyros, and also 2 of the Futaba servos doesn´t work with 2,6 volts signals.
We can help, if one of our electronics needs 3,0 volts we change only one electronic part and then it is function up 2,0 volts.
kind regards / mit freundlichen Grüßen
Emmerich Deutsch
PowerBox Systems GmbH
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Hi there,
Just a quick question:
I have a Powerbox evolution 40/16 bought in September 2007 through Intairco in Australia, my question is does this powerbox function correctly with the R6014 2.4 Ghz receiver from Futaba?
As you probably know channels 1.3 have a signal line on 3 Volts and the other channels of 2.7 volts only.
Ok I just found out that my Powerbox 40/16 evolution (6 months old) does not work with the R6014 lower signal voltage ........ Here is the mails exchange between myself and Emmerich from Modelbou Deutch (manufacturer)
This signal voltage stuff is getting annoying ....
Hello Mickel,
no, this PB is an version what need an input signal of 2,8 Volts.
Please send us this PB in the factory, we change the input voltage of the signal, then is all o.k. this service is free for you. We cannot know before that Futaba make such a mistake, since 50 years ago all receivers in the world have a minimum signal voltage of 3,0 volts.
We and all modellers hope that Futaba bring in some month the receiver 6114 with a normal signal of 3,0 volts. Many other electronic parts are also not function, servos, electronic valves, door sequencer , gyros, and also 2 of the Futaba servos doesn´t work with 2,6 volts signals.
We can help, if one of our electronics needs 3,0 volts we change only one electronic part and then it is function up 2,0 volts.
kind regards / mit freundlichen Grüßen
Emmerich Deutsch
PowerBox Systems GmbH
Ludwig-Auer-Strasse 5
D-86609 Donauwörth
Tel. : +49 906 22 55 9
Fax.: +49 906 22 45 9
[email protected]
www.powerbox-systems.com
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Hi there,
Just a quick question:
I have a Powerbox evolution 40/16 bought in September 2007 through Intairco in Australia, my question is does this powerbox function correctly with the R6014 2.4 Ghz receiver from Futaba?
As you probably know channels 1.3 have a signal line on 3 Volts and the other channels of 2.7 volts only.
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Hi,
Additional information:
The Jet-tronic 3/2 way Pneumatic valve (M-Valve) should work ok with the R6014 this is straight from Horst Lenerz the owner of Jet-Tronic.
The jet-tronic sequencers that are older than 2 months, need an amplyfier (which he also sells for about 7.5 euros a piece) the newer ones work fine with the lower signal voltage.
Cheers,
Mick.
Additional information:
The Jet-tronic 3/2 way Pneumatic valve (M-Valve) should work ok with the R6014 this is straight from Horst Lenerz the owner of Jet-Tronic.
The jet-tronic sequencers that are older than 2 months, need an amplyfier (which he also sells for about 7.5 euros a piece) the newer ones work fine with the lower signal voltage.
Cheers,
Mick.
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RE: Futaba FASST 6
Hi Guys
I have discussed this on a seperate forum but here seems the place so.
I have lots of Jets several on my 14 MZ with Power box Evoluton Champion etc all OK.
Have just recently changed to 2.4 so have been using JR and Sprectum 7/9/10 chanel with various sets, all with Power Box and no problems at all.
Just got my FAST module for my 14MZ and changed RX in my Angel Jet Cat P160 but could not get it work so I had to put the 9x JR 2.4 back in and had a couple of flights this week end all good.
I hurd the problem may be due to the Hitec servos which I like to use.
I tried the 14MZ on the bench today and it will not work if I plug Hitec servos in to Y lead from any of the chanels and I tried that combination on 123456 and all the same problem.
If I use one Futaba with one Hitec it is OK but two hitec with Y lead and no go.
The powerbox is the same problem as it is like a Y lead but the problem is not the power box.
The 14 MZ will have to go before the Hitec servos as it all works with JR and Sprectum.
Also have 1/2 size gliders and that sort of stuff all with Hitec and power box.
Regards BRGLAZZA
I have discussed this on a seperate forum but here seems the place so.
I have lots of Jets several on my 14 MZ with Power box Evoluton Champion etc all OK.
Have just recently changed to 2.4 so have been using JR and Sprectum 7/9/10 chanel with various sets, all with Power Box and no problems at all.
Just got my FAST module for my 14MZ and changed RX in my Angel Jet Cat P160 but could not get it work so I had to put the 9x JR 2.4 back in and had a couple of flights this week end all good.
I hurd the problem may be due to the Hitec servos which I like to use.
I tried the 14MZ on the bench today and it will not work if I plug Hitec servos in to Y lead from any of the chanels and I tried that combination on 123456 and all the same problem.
If I use one Futaba with one Hitec it is OK but two hitec with Y lead and no go.
The powerbox is the same problem as it is like a Y lead but the problem is not the power box.
The 14 MZ will have to go before the Hitec servos as it all works with JR and Sprectum.
Also have 1/2 size gliders and that sort of stuff all with Hitec and power box.
Regards BRGLAZZA
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RE: Futaba FASST 6
I am sure most are aware(in the UK).
But for any that are not and the rest of the world....
Ripmax have instigated an exchange program for certain 7 Channel tx modules.
Re: the Zero GUID issue.
[link]http://www.ripmax.com/notification_futaba.asp[/link]
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But for any that are not and the rest of the world....
Ripmax have instigated an exchange program for certain 7 Channel tx modules.
Re: the Zero GUID issue.
[link]http://www.ripmax.com/notification_futaba.asp[/link]
Paul
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RE: Futaba FASST 6
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Hello Mickel,............
We cannot know before that Futaba make such a mistake, since 50 years ago all receivers in the world have a minimum signal voltage of 3,0 volts.
We and all modellers hope that Futaba bring in some month the receiver 6114 with a normal signal of 3,0 volts. Many other electronic parts are also not function, servos, electronic valves, door sequencer , gyros, and also 2 of the Futaba servos doesn´t work with 2,6 volts signals.
Emmerich Deutsch
PowerBox Systems GmbH
Hello Mickel,............
We cannot know before that Futaba make such a mistake, since 50 years ago all receivers in the world have a minimum signal voltage of 3,0 volts.
We and all modellers hope that Futaba bring in some month the receiver 6114 with a normal signal of 3,0 volts. Many other electronic parts are also not function, servos, electronic valves, door sequencer , gyros, and also 2 of the Futaba servos doesn´t work with 2,6 volts signals.
Emmerich Deutsch
PowerBox Systems GmbH
I am quite sure Futaba produces looking forward the evolution of RC systems and their own range of products but not those from other companies that simply are their competence.
Regarding a "new" 6114" receiver, and I have good ingormation sources, you must know nothing like that is planned to appear in a near future but what certainly have Futaba is a request from various distributors worlwide from the last Nuremberg Toy Fair to produce their own range of batteries and servos control boxes.........no take your breath but wait and see.
Best Regards,
Jesus Cardin
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RE: Futaba FASST 6
Jescardin,
To be honest I dont care about what A or B thinks of all this, I just posted the information I got through email to make sure more people are aware.
Cheers,
Mick.
To be honest I dont care about what A or B thinks of all this, I just posted the information I got through email to make sure more people are aware.
Cheers,
Mick.
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RE: Futaba FASST 6
I have asked this on the Futaba forum but wondered if anyone here has tried plugging a battery into the data port of the R608fs? Is this socket on the same power bus as the rest of the sockets? It would be very handy if it was.
I find it odd that neither Bax in the US or the Ripmax service centre in the UK have any idea what this socket is for[:@]
I find it odd that neither Bax in the US or the Ripmax service centre in the UK have any idea what this socket is for[:@]