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Old 04-23-2008 | 02:27 PM
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Thanks, they look smaller than what im trying to do. Meh, ill figure it out .

Im using 2500MaH Rechargable NiMh AA's, gonna connect them up and run them. Ive done it before, just never with the Hyper.

Seems like its gonna be a tight fit, if its gonna fit at all. Ah well, will post pics of my ' experiment ' tomorrow.

Thanks again.
Old 04-23-2008 | 03:33 PM
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Can someone post me a pic of what kind of stick pack your using.

Reason being, my old one died on me today, and nearly took my car with it.

I got 5 Energizer 2500MAH batteries, and am gonna build my own pack, ( Ive done it a lotta times before for friends ). And I need to see how you mounted it.

Im thinking 3 - 2 Formation, because a 5 formation wont fit right.

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Qaiz, I use a 1600 MAH stick pack something like this.

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ducts_id/20047

I get at least three tanks and I am running a JR 9100T and a hitec 645. I usually charge it after three because I do not want to take any chances.

I use the longer battery cover pictured here.

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ducts_id/13786
Better yet do the Hyper 8 battery box mod and use a hump pack. I am using the ballistic 1600mah humpback.
Old 04-23-2008 | 08:55 PM
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hmm vspec or ninja both at same price both sound good any better pros or cons or anything or both great engines i just gota pick one?

does the vspec come with the same carb as the O.S. .28
the ninja 21 will blow away even a modded v-spec.
Old 04-23-2008 | 09:49 PM
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Can someone post me a pic of what kind of stick pack your using.

Reason being, my old one died on me today, and nearly took my car with it.

I got 5 Energizer 2500MAH batteries, and am gonna build my own pack, ( Ive done it a lotta times before for friends ). And I need to see how you mounted it.

Im thinking 3 - 2 Formation, because a 5 formation wont fit right.

Thanks.
Qaiz, I use a 1600 MAH stick pack something like this.

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ducts_id/20047

I get at least three tanks and I am running a JR 9100T and a hitec 645. I usually charge it after three because I do not want to take any chances.

I use the longer battery cover pictured here.

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ducts_id/13786
Big Daddy,

That 1600 will last an entire race weekend. You can run 15-20 tanks with no problem. If you continue to charge that quickly, it will definetly shorten the life of the battery.
Old 04-24-2008 | 12:01 AM
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alright j blaze ill take your word for it thanks dude
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you need to do 2 2 1 formation for a 5 cell AA pack.. it will then fit in the original battery tray/cover the wider type. with the 1 cell at the bottom. you can then either use very small zip ties to hold the battery cover on or as i have done use a small piece of plastic and extend the arms a little and run the cover backwards so that it entirely covers the whole of the battery on the outside) sorry i still not bothered my butt to get photos done and im at work right now.

As a precationery i then wrap the battery cover and battery with an old inner tube just to give it a little protection from impacts and also hold the battery very snug and tight.

I get weeks of use out of the 2400mah AA's as a matter of fact ive only chargeed them once since my original purchase . They outlast my TX by 3:1 as that has the dreaded 800mah pack.... gonna have to sort that one out when i get time.

The beauty of the 2400's is they like fast charge too....
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Big Daddy,

That 1600 will last an entire race weekend. You can run 15-20 tanks with no problem. If you continue to charge that quickly, it will definetly shorten the life of the battery.
Thanks, I just did not want to lose power, I will see how long it last.
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you need to do 2 2 1 formation for a 5 cell AA pack.. it will then fit in the original battery tray/cover the wider type. with the 1 cell at the bottom. you can then either use very small zip ties to hold the battery cover on or as i have done use a small piece of plastic and extend the arms a little and run the cover backwards so that it entirely covers the whole of the battery on the outside) sorry i still not bothered my butt to get photos done and im at work right now.

As a precationery i then wrap the battery cover and battery with an old inner tube just to give it a little protection from impacts and also hold the battery very snug and tight.

I get weeks of use out of the 2400mah AA's as a matter of fact ive only chargeed them once since my original purchase . They outlast my TX by 3:1 as that has the dreaded 800mah pack.... gonna have to sort that one out when i get time.

The beauty of the 2400's is they like fast charge too....
Still better off doing the hyper 8.5 battery box mod. The AA's will fit into the box ( A bit tight, but OK with a small receiver). Gives better protection to the batteries, and looks better as well.

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Old 04-24-2008 | 09:10 AM
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Yeah got it done

Fits great

Just slow charging it, and im ready to go.



Only it didnt fit right, but it does fit...



Also had to shear a connecter




But it works great.

Thanks Guys.
Old 04-24-2008 | 09:17 AM
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ORIGINAL: eirk66

hmm vspec or ninja both at same price both sound good any better pros or cons or anything or both great engines i just gota pick one?

does the vspec come with the same carb as the O.S. .28
the ninja 21 will blow away even a modded v-spec.

Not even close...stock for stock a V-Spec is more powerful...a modded V-Spec will smoke a stock Ninja.......... dont overhype a motor beyond its capabilities !
Old 04-24-2008 | 09:22 AM
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http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ducts_id/23021

would this be a good motor for my hyper st and has any one ran it before?

I had a Jammin .28 but ive given up on it its had problems since the start always stays way to lean never holds a tune ive sealed the whole thing I run side winder 20% stock 3 shims on the head and called ofna they said theres nothing they can really do they said maybe add another shim sooo yeah in need of a new motor on the cheaper end

Your likely using the wrong Glowplugs !!!! your using OS plugs right ? or have threaded an OS into the button at some time ?

I really wish I could help you with your motor, but without me being there its very difficult to tell you what is going wrong....... I have seen several people have tuning issues with Picco's, but there was always an underlying reason.....whether it was user error or some unforseen mechanical problem....... But no matter what the cause there has never been a Picco I could not get running nice....

Most common issues i see are

1. Not using Picco plugs, far too many people using OS and Nova plugs, these plugs do not seat correctly and can cause leaks and odd tuning conditions

2. People moving the needles too far when adjusting... Picco's require far less needle movement then a motor like a Mach or LRP...in most cases I tune a Picco with slight nudges of the needles, 1 hour increments is too much..... All it takes is enough movement to feel the o-ring move.... If a person attempts to tune a Picco with LRP or Mach sized needle changes they will never be able to tune the motor

3. Trying to tune a Picco before the motor and chassis is fully heat saturated... Picco's will run extremely rich for the first 3/4 of a tank till it fully warms up, once it gets the proper heat into it the motor will naturally lean itself out.... Many people will tune the Picco while its still cold then find it leans itself out by the end of the tank.... You will not likely be able to warm a Picco up properly by idling, they usually need to be driven on the ground for a bit before they will warm up. Usually they will be amazingly rich on first startup , but once you start running them hard they will clear up and start running extremely crisp without even touching the needles.......... Far too many people will tune em in on the starter box only to find the motor leans itself out by the end of the tank....... Picco's need to be warm !!!!



Old 04-26-2008 | 10:20 AM
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Old 04-27-2008 | 05:46 PM
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Hey fella. just joined need to know what kind of engine i should put in my new hyper st pro. I want to put the new O.S 28, RB tm 928, or that LRP z 28. Someone help.

Best looking St on the universe....
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Well had my first race of the season with the new Hyper ST Pro kit. I must say this thing flys on jumps and with the OS 21 V-Spec it had GLOBS of power. Overall I qualifed 7th in the Amain and finished 7th overall. I could of TQed, but I had a flame out right before the qualifer was going to start (like 2 second before the horn went off). Still learning to drive, but the Hyper is sooo nice. Had a couple of other ppl come over and take a look at it as I am the only one running a Hyper ST at our track. They liked it. My track is mostly Losi 8ight-T. Couple of action pics my wife took.
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Hey fella. just joined need to know what kind of engine i should put in my new hyper st pro. I want to put the new O.S 28, RB tm 928, or that LRP z 28. Someone help.

Best looking St on the universe....
Go with an OS.
Old 04-27-2008 | 11:19 PM
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Hey fella. just joined need to know what kind of engine i should put in my new hyper st pro. I want to put the new O.S 28, RB tm 928, or that LRP z 28. Someone help.

Best looking St on the universe....
Lol sorry, not really

Go look up SpikeItAudi's Hyper. Im gonna be copying that exact same paint job, when the damn LHS gets the clear bodies in stock.!

But yours does look damn good too.

That OS .28 is pretty much over kill for the Hyper, a good .21 will get it along better.

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Any reports on the Jammin JPX .21, I think thats gonna be my next engine, or I might go out and get another V Spec B ( Blue One ).?
Old 04-27-2008 | 11:36 PM
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http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ducts_id/23021

would this be a good motor for my hyper st and has any one ran it before?

I had a Jammin .28 but ive given up on it its had problems since the start always stays way to lean never holds a tune ive sealed the whole thing I run side winder 20% stock 3 shims on the head and called ofna they said theres nothing they can really do they said maybe add another shim sooo yeah in need of a new motor on the cheaper end

Your likely using the wrong Glowplugs !!!! your using OS plugs right ? or have threaded an OS into the button at some time ?

I really wish I could help you with your motor, but without me being there its very difficult to tell you what is going wrong....... I have seen several people have tuning issues with Picco's, but there was always an underlying reason.....whether it was user error or some unforseen mechanical problem....... But no matter what the cause there has never been a Picco I could not get running nice....

Most common issues i see are

1. Not using Picco plugs, far too many people using OS and Nova plugs, these plugs do not seat correctly and can cause leaks and odd tuning conditions

2. People moving the needles too far when adjusting... Picco's require far less needle movement then a motor like a Mach or LRP...in most cases I tune a Picco with slight nudges of the needles, 1 hour increments is too much..... All it takes is enough movement to feel the o-ring move.... If a person attempts to tune a Picco with LRP or Mach sized needle changes they will never be able to tune the motor

3. Trying to tune a Picco before the motor and chassis is fully heat saturated... Picco's will run extremely rich for the first 3/4 of a tank till it fully warms up, once it gets the proper heat into it the motor will naturally lean itself out.... Many people will tune the Picco while its still cold then find it leans itself out by the end of the tank.... You will not likely be able to warm a Picco up properly by idling, they usually need to be driven on the ground for a bit before they will warm up. Usually they will be amazingly rich on first startup , but once you start running them hard they will clear up and start running extremely crisp without even touching the needles.......... Far too many people will tune em in on the starter box only to find the motor leans itself out by the end of the tank....... Picco's need to be warm !!!!



yes i did put a p3 plug in it on amain hobbies it says it was one of the plugs the recomend so I got a couple and having no luck with the engine I put the p3 plug back in and now it likes to run alot better soo idk about that engine personally i think its just a dudd and it happens ive had problems with it since the begging soo w/e im over it and it runs good on a p3 for some reason so im letting it run haha and looking for a new engine im thinking about trying a RB S5 L2G .21 and if I like that engien ill continue with there motors thanks
Old 04-28-2008 | 10:22 PM
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Spikeit. You were the fastest truggy on the track Sunday. FACT. If you didnt flame out you would have TQ'd. Even with the flame out, you were only one lap off of TQ. Had it not been for the quick thinking and pit work by your pit man, you would have been toast. Oh, that would be me. LOL I gotta tell you Hyper ST owners something. This is coming from a Kyosho/Associated/Traxxas owner/racer. This truggy is for real. Yes there were several guys that came over to our pit area to look at it. It did turn heads. Most of the guys run .28's and this OS V-SPEC .21 had just as much, if not more power. Spikeit was able to power by a few guys with ease. Jumped to perfection. Cornered good (Well get that tuned up even better) and was just as good as any of the other truggys out there. I believe there were LOSI's, a Kyosho STR-R, I think I saw a Jammin, and there may have been one or two others. Hard to tell with the bodies on and them not stopping so I could look. LOL Not bad for a first time truggy racer eh? Spikeit you did the team proud yesterday!!!!!!!
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anyone else have the bevel gear bearings wear out and chew up the bevel gear teeth? i had both do it a weekend apart, truck has about 5 gallons on it so far, all race. i've also gone through all 3 internal gear sets, center first, then front then rear, all inside the 3rd gallon. i'm just gonna gauge this as their life span then and swap out every few race days. thats the only problems i've had with my ST, that and a losi driving the wrong way down the straight cracked the front right arm.
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@ erik66

That plug is the problem, try a Trinity Turbo HOT. And you'll love the engine with that..

Dont listen to what amain says, OS plugs DO NOT WORK, they dont seal the engine right, thats the reason you're having tuning issues.

Get a set of those plugs, try it out, and then decide if you want a new engine or now.
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do you know qaiz if those plugs work great also with the jammin .21 engines with 30% nitro?
Old 04-29-2008 | 12:17 AM
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ehh engine blew today didn't even get a lap in at the track freind from track said i could use his rtr engine from his losi truggy might get a vspec or a s5 like ordering tomorrow
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ehh engine blew today didn't even get a lap in at the track freind from track said i could use his rtr engine from his losi truggy might get a vspec or a s5 like ordering tomorrow

thats what you get for running a motor too lean sorry to say.......I would learn a little more before buying another race motor..... there is nothing wrong with Picco, its the user attached... I re-read since you started with htis Picco and honestly it sounds like you were in way over your head right from the start.
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ORIGINAL: supertib

ORIGINAL: eirk66

http://www.amainhobbies.com/product_...ducts_id/23021

would this be a good motor for my hyper st and has any one ran it before?

I had a Jammin .28 but ive given up on it its had problems since the start always stays way to lean never holds a tune ive sealed the whole thing I run side winder 20% stock 3 shims on the head and called ofna they said theres nothing they can really do they said maybe add another shim sooo yeah in need of a new motor on the cheaper end

Your likely using the wrong Glowplugs !!!! your using OS plugs right ? or have threaded an OS into the button at some time ?

I really wish I could help you with your motor, but without me being there its very difficult to tell you what is going wrong....... I have seen several people have tuning issues with Picco's, but there was always an underlying reason.....whether it was user error or some unforseen mechanical problem....... But no matter what the cause there has never been a Picco I could not get running nice....

Most common issues i see are

1. Not using Picco plugs, far too many people using OS and Nova plugs, these plugs do not seat correctly and can cause leaks and odd tuning conditions

2. People moving the needles too far when adjusting... Picco's require far less needle movement then a motor like a Mach or LRP...in most cases I tune a Picco with slight nudges of the needles, 1 hour increments is too much..... All it takes is enough movement to feel the o-ring move.... If a person attempts to tune a Picco with LRP or Mach sized needle changes they will never be able to tune the motor

3. Trying to tune a Picco before the motor and chassis is fully heat saturated... Picco's will run extremely rich for the first 3/4 of a tank till it fully warms up, once it gets the proper heat into it the motor will naturally lean itself out.... Many people will tune the Picco while its still cold then find it leans itself out by the end of the tank.... You will not likely be able to warm a Picco up properly by idling, they usually need to be driven on the ground for a bit before they will warm up. Usually they will be amazingly rich on first startup , but once you start running them hard they will clear up and start running extremely crisp without even touching the needles.......... Far too many people will tune em in on the starter box only to find the motor leans itself out by the end of the tank....... Picco's need to be warm !!!!



yes i did put a p3 plug in it on amain hobbies it says it was one of the plugs the recomend so I got a couple and having no luck with the engine I put the p3 plug back in and now it likes to run alot better soo idk about that engine personally i think its just a dudd and it happens ive had problems with it since the begging soo w/e im over it and it runs good on a p3 for some reason so im letting it run haha and looking for a new engine im thinking about trying a RB S5 L2G .21 and if I like that engien ill continue with there motors thanks


There is no such thing as a dud engine !!!! 3 moving parts leaves no room for duds.... the secret is in tuning and setup...........
Old 04-29-2008 | 07:47 AM
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anyone else have the bevel gear bearings wear out and chew up the bevel gear teeth? i had both do it a weekend apart, truck has about 5 gallons on it so far, all race. i've also gone through all 3 internal gear sets, center first, then front then rear, all inside the 3rd gallon. i'm just gonna gauge this as their life span then and swap out every few race days. thats the only problems i've had with my ST, that and a losi driving the wrong way down the straight cracked the front right arm.
Don't have that issue but I only have about a little more then 1/2 gallon through mine.


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