50cc Sukhette Build Thread, now in progress!!
11-04-2008 | 09:11 PM
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RE: 50cc Sukhette Build Thread, now in progress!!
This may be another option, that I think might be better for the sake of transport, and for alignment/re-alignment of your linkage, and control arm lengths- Why not just remove the servo arm? this way, you would not disturb the length of your control arm, and also, you wouldn't have to tape the control rods to the tail in order to prevent them from getting sheared off moving the bird around and loading- much easier to protect the rods on the stabs than on the end of a 11 pound fuselage-? to reassemble, just power up the radio, and once the servo's are centered, just put the arm back on with the elevator centered and you're done-
11-04-2008 | 09:15 PM
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That a great Idea about the servo arms I would just add to make sure that you add a little locktight when you reattach them !!!!
11-05-2008 | 01:28 PM
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RE: 50cc Sukhette Build Thread, now in progress!!
I remove my stabs for transport also. I loctited a 4-40 cap screw to the servo arm from behind and just undo the screws holding the stabs on and remove just one 4-40 nut and pull the stabs and the linkage off at the same time. they slide rignt in my stab bags with no modifications and no worries about re adjusting anything.
11-05-2008 | 03:29 PM
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RE: 50cc Sukhette Build Thread, now in progress!!
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I remove my stabs for transport also. I loctited a 4-40 cap screw to the servo arm from behind and just undo the screws holding the stabs on and remove just one 4-40 nut and pull the stabs and the linkage off at the same time. they slide rignt in my stab bags with no modifications and no worries about re adjusting anything.
I remove my stabs for transport also. I loctited a 4-40 cap screw to the servo arm from behind and just undo the screws holding the stabs on and remove just one 4-40 nut and pull the stabs and the linkage off at the same time. they slide rignt in my stab bags with no modifications and no worries about re adjusting anything.
Thanks
11-11-2008 | 08:24 PM
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RE: 50cc Sukhette Build Thread, now in progress!!
I think I came up with something worth passing on. In light of recent safety issues, I have found a very user friendly and safe way of starting a large scale plane that has proven to be more reliable than someone standing in front of the elevator. I purchased a package of Husky Hang-Alls (vecro strap hanger) from Home Depot along with one of those yard screws that is used to anchor a dog lead.
When at the field, simply put the yard screw in the ground in your pit area, wrap the velcro retainer strap in front of the elevator and over the fuselage. Then using the provided snap link, attach to yard screw. Make sure at least 4" of the velcro overlaps and begin your start up sequence. Once the engine is started, simply stand in front of the elevator to do final pre flight. When ready to taxi, simply bend over and rip the strap loose and voila! your ready to go. Total cost: $15 for straps and $8 for yard screw. See photos
When at the field, simply put the yard screw in the ground in your pit area, wrap the velcro retainer strap in front of the elevator and over the fuselage. Then using the provided snap link, attach to yard screw. Make sure at least 4" of the velcro overlaps and begin your start up sequence. Once the engine is started, simply stand in front of the elevator to do final pre flight. When ready to taxi, simply bend over and rip the strap loose and voila! your ready to go. Total cost: $15 for straps and $8 for yard screw. See photos
11-11-2008 | 10:29 PM
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Okay, I just realized that Home Depot no longer carries these. Should have known because I bought 4 packages on clearance about a year ago. Anyway, the only place I found while searching the internet is Harbor Freight or Tractor Supply Company.
11-12-2008 | 02:01 AM
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RE: 50cc Sukhette Build Thread, now in progress!!
Alright...... Darnit guys! I just want to say thanks a lot! I just couldn't stand it.... I just had to have a suk, so I pulled the trigger on one.... My fiance is gonna kill me! But it'll be worth it! he he.
11-12-2008 | 02:19 AM
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Good one mate, you will really enjoy it, just read and follow this build thread and it will fly really well for ya
Recession? what recession?? LOL
Lee
Recession? what recession?? LOL
Lee
11-12-2008 | 04:37 AM
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ORIGINAL: Obee
I would post this in another area but i feel a bit of a brotherhood with this group. the WH SU-26 is my first giant gas plane and I love it. However yesterday I let it bite me. I usually start it on a ground based hold down which has been very solid and holds it at the tail. During this incident I "Changed horses mid stream" and started it on a folding table with pylons that block the LE of the wings close to the fuse. I used this table during engine testing and found it to work well until applying a lot of throttle, then the table would move a little. Yesterday I started it on the table at a high idle and the plane-table combination lurched forward just enough to inspire my brain to react in a reflexive response and get my right hand ring finger nearly cut off near the root bed. My chicken stick took the majority of the impact and shredded the prop. My finger tip is fractured,nail removed, tendons and nerves are intact and all has been stitched together, even the nail. Now I have little time to think about safety, time off work and how to prevent this kind of thing from happening to me or others again. So that's why I have posted this here. Please be careful with these big beautiful and powerful planes. Tom I'll order a hop up kit and a prop soon.
Obee.
I would post this in another area but i feel a bit of a brotherhood with this group. the WH SU-26 is my first giant gas plane and I love it. However yesterday I let it bite me. I usually start it on a ground based hold down which has been very solid and holds it at the tail. During this incident I "Changed horses mid stream" and started it on a folding table with pylons that block the LE of the wings close to the fuse. I used this table during engine testing and found it to work well until applying a lot of throttle, then the table would move a little. Yesterday I started it on the table at a high idle and the plane-table combination lurched forward just enough to inspire my brain to react in a reflexive response and get my right hand ring finger nearly cut off near the root bed. My chicken stick took the majority of the impact and shredded the prop. My finger tip is fractured,nail removed, tendons and nerves are intact and all has been stitched together, even the nail. Now I have little time to think about safety, time off work and how to prevent this kind of thing from happening to me or others again. So that's why I have posted this here. Please be careful with these big beautiful and powerful planes. Tom I'll order a hop up kit and a prop soon.
Obee.
I would like to add that as a safety procedure always check to make sure the throttle is no more open than 1/8 of the travel. This has to be confirmed by looking through the cowl front opening to the carb body.
The other step that is equally important is to shut down the engine after landing and never point the airplane while engine running toward the pits area. A bump up of the throttle for whatever reason will make the plane an instant killing machine.
11-17-2008 | 08:34 PM
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RE: 50cc Sukhette Build Thread, now in progress!!
Tom;
Since I ordered my second WH Sukhoi today, I was wondering what servos would you recommend. I've been thinking in getting five HS 5985MG all around. For throttle I think a HS 625MG should be fine. What do you think?
Thanks for your help
Since I ordered my second WH Sukhoi today, I was wondering what servos would you recommend. I've been thinking in getting five HS 5985MG all around. For throttle I think a HS 625MG should be fine. What do you think?
Thanks for your help
11-17-2008 | 10:07 PM
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RE: 50cc Sukhette Build Thread, now in progress!!
You'd probably want a bit more in the rudder- The 5985's are GREAT on all other surfaces, But I think you might stall it (5985) on the rudder. I have a 5955tg on my rudder, and will be running one on my Suk that I will be receiving tomorrow- I think it's like 20 or 30 bucks more than the 5985, so if you're buying new, would just get the 5955tg on the rudder- you shouldn't be unhappy about the choice- KM
11-17-2008 | 11:03 PM
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ORIGINAL: thevirginian
Tom;
Since I ordered my second WH Sukhoi today, I was wondering what servos would you recommend. I've been thinking in getting five HS 5985MG all around. For throttle I think a HS 625MG should be fine. What do you think?
Thanks for your help
Tom;
Since I ordered my second WH Sukhoi today, I was wondering what servos would you recommend. I've been thinking in getting five HS 5985MG all around. For throttle I think a HS 625MG should be fine. What do you think?
Thanks for your help
TF
11-17-2008 | 11:07 PM
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RE: 50cc Sukhette Build Thread, now in progress!!
Hi Tom,
I sent you a couple of emails, one friday and 1 today.
Did you get them ?
Thanks
Brad ( [email protected] )
I sent you a couple of emails, one friday and 1 today.
Did you get them ?
Thanks
Brad ( [email protected] )
11-18-2008 | 07:41 AM
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[quote]ORIGINAL: rctom
ORIGINAL: thevirginian
It really depends on your flying style and what you expect from th eplane. If you already own the servos I'd say try them as is. If you have not already bought them, go for 4x 7985 and 1x 7955, for $20 more you will get better performance from the 7955.
TF
It really depends on your flying style and what you expect from th eplane. If you already own the servos I'd say try them as is. If you have not already bought them, go for 4x 7985 and 1x 7955, for $20 more you will get better performance from the 7955.
TF
That's exactly what I have in my big Sukhoi. I wasn't sure if the 5985MG (or 7985MG) would be big enough for the rudder. Although I am no expert in 3D I like to get more and more involved with 3D.
11-18-2008 | 03:17 PM
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RE: 50cc Sukhette Build Thread, now in progress!!
The bottom of the fuselage is yellow, the bottom of the wing is shown in the picture below. (The damage is from a mid air with another plane and with some help, I got the plane on the ground. Tom had me a new wing panel in fives days.)
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11-19-2008 | 09:58 PM
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RE: 50cc Sukhette Build Thread, now in progress!!
Ok.... Questions......
I have just retired my WH Extra 300, and have received the 87" Sukhoi. Not to mention that the UPS didn't destroy it on the way here this time. It looks like they hand carried it over here with little white gloves on. NOT A SCRATCH!
Ok.. The tail- forward or back tube- that is the question. I have read yea and nay over various forums, and threads, and officially have no idea where I want to go with this-
I have absolutely no problem flying a twitchy plane, and am by NO means a 3D pro- I guess you could classify my flying as a 50/50 mix-
has anyone flown the tail in each position? if so, I guess what I am asking here is, will the bird still 3D fairly well with the rear stab setting? OR, will the plane still fly nice knife edges and do nice point rolls fairly precisely with the forward stab setting-
I think I'm leaning to the back position just for looks, and I guess I can always move it forward if I warrant it later, I just can't move it back without replacing the pushrods-
What's the general consensus guys?
Sheesh Tom- You gave us too much- too many options!!! lol I guess that's a good "problem" to have!!
I have just retired my WH Extra 300, and have received the 87" Sukhoi. Not to mention that the UPS didn't destroy it on the way here this time. It looks like they hand carried it over here with little white gloves on. NOT A SCRATCH!
Ok.. The tail- forward or back tube- that is the question. I have read yea and nay over various forums, and threads, and officially have no idea where I want to go with this-
I have absolutely no problem flying a twitchy plane, and am by NO means a 3D pro- I guess you could classify my flying as a 50/50 mix-
has anyone flown the tail in each position? if so, I guess what I am asking here is, will the bird still 3D fairly well with the rear stab setting? OR, will the plane still fly nice knife edges and do nice point rolls fairly precisely with the forward stab setting-
I think I'm leaning to the back position just for looks, and I guess I can always move it forward if I warrant it later, I just can't move it back without replacing the pushrods-
What's the general consensus guys?
Sheesh Tom- You gave us too much- too many options!!! lol I guess that's a good "problem" to have!!
11-19-2008 | 11:48 PM
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RE: 50cc Sukhette Build Thread, now in progress!!
The main reason for the forward stab location is to reduce wing rock in a harrier or elevator. Most people say that they really can't tell the difference. I'd fly it in the rear (stock) location until you find a reason not to.
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11-20-2008 | 12:27 AM
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RE: 50cc Sukhette Build Thread, now in progress!!
.......And there you have it!
Thanks, Tom- I just needed to "hear" someone say that.
I just applied the graphics last night, (GREAT QUALITY at that-) and even though I was trying to crowd the upside down Honda toward the wing, I still couldn't get it out from under the stab. Then, all of a sudden, I smacked myself on the forehead and realized that it was because of the forward stab-
Thanks again for providing one hell of an airplane at one hell of a price!
maybe I forgot how nice the extra was when I got it and looked through the kit, but it seems as though this one is even nicer! I can only imagine how nice my next Wild Hare will be!!!!
Thanks, Tom- I just needed to "hear" someone say that.
I just applied the graphics last night, (GREAT QUALITY at that-) and even though I was trying to crowd the upside down Honda toward the wing, I still couldn't get it out from under the stab. Then, all of a sudden, I smacked myself on the forehead and realized that it was because of the forward stab-
Thanks again for providing one hell of an airplane at one hell of a price!
maybe I forgot how nice the extra was when I got it and looked through the kit, but it seems as though this one is even nicer! I can only imagine how nice my next Wild Hare will be!!!!
11-20-2008 | 07:59 AM
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RE: 50cc Sukhette Build Thread, now in progress!!
Yeepee, I'm gonna pick mine up today from the Greyhound station [sm=tongue_smile.gif]. It was shipped Tuesday acc. to Patty and it arived last night. Now that's fast[sm=thumbs_up.gif]. Hardly can't wait to get started also.
11-20-2008 | 10:49 AM
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You are going to love her Tom makes the best birds and the Sukhoi is a great example!!!! And my elevators are in the rearward position and it has a little rock but tumbles great !!
