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Old 06-10-2008 | 12:56 PM
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AR 9000 is fine, same as JR 921 and I've used the 921 a lot, works fine.

The charge lead on the A123s that I sell has 3.3v on teh signal wire, if you plan to plug it into the receiver you should cut the signal wire, it could cause some kind of problem.

In that size plane you don't need the third connection into the receiver, 2 will be plenty.

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Old 06-10-2008 | 02:07 PM
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Thanks Tom,
the signal wires are cut on the input to the switches as you sent them. The A123s I got from you are just red / black out puts w Deans and a FMA charge lead.
The third connection I mentioned was is done via a Y connector I built up from deans and wire to take the unused leg of the ignition battery and a lead from the Rx battery into one of the twin switches on the RX side. I think you mentioned doing something similar in a post a while ago.

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Old 06-10-2008 | 11:59 PM
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Fellas,
I am to the point of installing servos. I installed the choke servo outside the engine box with the electronic ignition module on top of the engine box. Installed the throttle servo on the lower deck in front of the fuel cell (just above the cannister mount. Rudder servo in the slot......... Question.........The servo slot in the aileron appear to be considerably longer than my servo. The rudder servo fit perfectly. What and where is the right mounting method? Will I have to glue in a piece of wood to mount aileron servo. Then, should it be mounted to the back or front of longer slot? For the elevator, which cutout do you use?
Old 06-11-2008 | 02:34 AM
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Fellas,
I am to the point of installing servos. I installed the choke servo outside the engine box with the electronic ignition module on top of the engine box. Installed the throttle servo on the lower deck in front of the fuel cell (just above the cannister mount. Rudder servo in the slot......... Question.........The servo slot in the aileron appear to be considerably longer than my servo. The rudder servo fit perfectly. What and where is the right mounting method? Will I have to glue in a piece of wood to mount aileron servo. Then, should it be mounted to the back or front of longer slot? For the elevator, which cutout do you use?
What servos are you using? I used HiTec 5985 for my elevators and ailerons and if I remember correctly the servos were quite a tight fit to get them in the socket. There is a photo earlier on in this thread (I can not remember where) that shows exactly which cutout you should use for the elevator servos.

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Old 06-11-2008 | 10:43 AM
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Did you cut away the covering yet?

I get a lot of guys that don't understand there is a recess, the servo hole should be the right size for a standard servo.

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Old 06-15-2008 | 10:08 PM
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Hey Guy's! Just wanted to throw up a few pics of my painted canopy. I'm pretty pleased with it!

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Old 06-16-2008 | 07:42 AM
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Hey Guy's! Just wanted to throw up a few pics of my painted canopy. I'm pretty pleased with it!

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Andy, Your canopy looks great! I'm at that stage on mine and I think I will follow your lead. Did you attach it with screws only or with glue and screws? If you have a minute to describe your install that would be great!

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Old 06-16-2008 | 12:02 PM
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The canopy is only held on with screws. I drilled the holes through the canopy and the cockpit wood. I had some Sullivan, flexible CF push rod material that I cut into 5/8" pieces. I re-drilled the holes in the cockpit to snugly fit the push rod material. I used CA to glue the CF pieces into the side rails, and Gorilla Glue to glue them into the foam/wood front deck material. This gives me a hole to screw into that will resist the screw backing out from vibration. I may add a couple more screws in the front deck, to make sure wind doesn't get under the canopy.

The paint I used for the canopy is Rustoleum for plastics. I used painters tape and Tamiya pin stripe tape for masking. I got real sharp paint lines!

I am tempted to put a pilot and control panel in the plane, but I think I will fight the urge.

I hope this helps!

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The canopy is only held on with screws. I drilled the holes through the canopy and the cockpit wood. I had some Sullivan, flexible CF push rod material that I cut into 5/8" pieces. I re-drilled the holes in the cockpit to snugly fit the push rod material. I used CA to glue the CF pieces into the side rails, and Gorilla Glue to glue them into the foam/wood front deck material. This gives me a hole to screw into that will resist the screw backing out from vibration. I may add a couple more screws in the front deck, to make sure wind doesn't get under the canopy.

The paint I used for the canopy is Rustoleum for plastics. I used painters tape and Tamiya pin stripe tape for masking. I got real sharp paint lines!

I am tempted to put a pilot and control panel in the plane, but I think I will fight the urge.

I hope this helps!

Andy
Thanks Andy!!!

I've got to get to work!

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Old 06-18-2008 | 07:04 AM
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Have fun! It was worth the extra effort!

By the way, for painting, I masked the entire cockpit, installed the canopy, masked the canopy and painted. The cockpit gave the rigidity needed to properly mask the canopy.
Old 06-18-2008 | 11:16 AM
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Just wanted to pass along something I found two days ago . I was in the process of putting my Honda graphics on the Suk and was trying to find some Rapid Tac. I found a blog from a guy who is in the graphics business who uses his own home brew. He had a buddy who was a chemist and together figured out the make up of Rapid Tac. Through trial and error they put together the right proportions. I have used this concoction as a wet application on half of the plane and am extremely pleased with the results. Here is the recipe:

1/2 CUP RUBBING ALCOHOL ($1.68 for 32oz)
3 1/2 CUPS OF WATER (free)
4 DROPS OF PALMOLIVE DISHWASHING DETERGENT ($1.89 small size)(no more, less is better)

From Lowes get a 32oz empty spray bottle ($1.38) and mix the above ingredients. This will work out to approx. 32oz of fluid. Use this to clean the surface then wet surface thoroughly before applying graphics. With this wet technique, you can move your graphics around until you get the right location (especially helpful on the big "Honda" wing graphic. Then use a mini rubber squeegee (obtained in a window film kit at Lowes or Home Depot) to remove water from underneath grahics. Wait 90 seconds to 2 minutes then spray the concoction on the graphics cover sheet. Use your hand and lightly spread water over entire cover. Wait 10 seconds and slooooooowly remove cover sheet. You may have a few little bubbles after pulling cover sheet. Use your soft rubber squeegee remove these bubbles. This will give you professional results in less time without messing up graphics due to bad placement.
Old 06-18-2008 | 03:17 PM
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Excellent report, do you object to me using this?

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Old 06-18-2008 | 04:57 PM
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Excellent report, do you object to me using this?

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Tom,

I would be my pleasure for once to be a contributor versus a taker of information. Please use it for whatever!!
Old 06-22-2008 | 04:37 AM
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Woot....

Did my first inverted flat-spin today ( Saturday) . I started It a bit low so I had to roll out of it after only 4-5 rotations but it looked sweet. Landings are picture perfect now that I have about 15 tanks through it, stall speed is so slow my landings usually go like this.. Make approach to strip, about 59 yards out I move throttle all the way down then up one ratchet or two depending on wind or not. About 25 feet out from end of runway I go down to idle drop my altitude to 2-3 feet then let the last bit of speed bleed off and the tail will start to drop slightly and that is my queue to set it down. perfect 3 point with about 20 ft roll out on hard surface. a thing of beauty.

Just finished my first 2 gallon jug off today, the D5L 50 has been flawless Hovers at just over half throttle and pulls out nice with unlimited vertical on my 18.4 pound plane. Canister, header, HS 5955TG's all around. some would say it's too heavy, nut it flies perfect for my skill level.
Old 06-27-2008 | 05:53 PM
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Couple questions: (1) Any drawbacks to using a Sullivan Gold-n-Rod for the throttle linkage? (using a plastic clevis) (2) I had to place two of my 3 NIMH's on the motor box for balance. One is mounted on the lower, outer left side of the box, while I placed my ignition pack on the lower inside of the box (2nd pack on right side, 3rd in middle of fuse for balance). Any potential problems, such as RFI, because of the left side mounted battery and ignition being close together? Thanks.
Old 06-27-2008 | 06:57 PM
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Hi F-16WpnsTech
From what you have said it is very much the same as I have have mine set up and so far I have about 100 plus flights and no problems, just do it and fly it mate, youll love it
Lee
Old 06-27-2008 | 08:20 PM
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I would be greatly concerned with the battery set up if you aren't running 2.4Ghz on your radio. If you are you shouldn't be having any problems. I have had no problems on my four planes with the batteries on the firewall along with the ignition.
Old 06-27-2008 | 08:59 PM
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Just make sure you range check it like always with engine off and then on. You should see maybe a little difference between engine off and on distances but nothing drastic . If your on 2.4 I would say your okay and if on 72 band I would say as long as the batts are on one side and the ignition is on the other should be okay . I solved some balance issues by going to A123 up front 2300 mah . I can fly about 8-9 flights but in reality 8 is my cutoff. yes it's a bit heavier but according to one of the better pilots at my field he liked it as it was and he flew the piss outta it
Old 06-27-2008 | 09:39 PM
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I have several 28% and larger birds on 72Mhz with RX batteries almost immediately beside the ignition and have had NO problems. Just my experience.
Matter of fact a few throttle servos on the other side of the engine box wood from ignitions and still no problems, so far. KEEPING my fingers crossed.
Old 06-28-2008 | 07:01 PM
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Thanks for the response guys. I am using the 2.4 system, so all should be well...haven't had time to range check yet..hopefully i'll maiden tommorrow if the weather holds.
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Good luck on the maiden!
Old 07-01-2008 | 08:27 PM
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Here are some pics of my nearly completed Sukhoi. Hope to maiden it this weekend, weather permitting. Haven't decided if I am going to add graphics. I like the way she looks without them.
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Old 07-01-2008 | 08:29 PM
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Here are a few more:
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Old 07-01-2008 | 09:21 PM
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Flyer FREQ
Looks really nice mate, all the best for the maiden
Cheers LEE
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Thanks Lee!


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