hello all. im a new pilot( i started flying a few months ago) i learned on my own and after my first attempts with a parkzone cub i moved to a parkflyers edge 540t. after flying the 540t succesfully/ i purchased realflight g3 and highly recomend it to any new pilot or person wanting to learn to fly. ive been into rc for well over 10 years. ive raced 10th scale electric offroad for around 5 years and have a 8th scale nitro buggy i play around with these days. i think im doing pretty well as a pilot and would like to have more time to fly but usually its just one day a week for a few flights. ive seen a lot of the 3D stuff with electrics and have been pretty happy just to fly succesfully but was really interested in hovering. i currently have 3 planes/the e-flite yak 54f/parkzone typhoon and the parkflyers edge 540t(i have a e-flite 400 4200kv inrunner with e-flite gearbox and 12x6 prop) and that thing really rocks now/i also had a e-flite mini edge which had some qaulity issues.. e-flite puts out good products and i have there motors/esc/and batterys and chargers but i think my edge was just a fluke thing. anyway i flew my typhoon yesterday... all i can say is smooth.. easy to fly and very stable and i was fortunate that the wind out here.. which has been 10 to 20 mph lately was under 5mph/no fun flying when its over 10mph and the plane is constantly thrown around. id say the typhoon would be good for a newer pilot to do 3d it flys well has dual rates and enough power to hover and pull out... and it hovers pretty easy for me and its not like ive been flying for years. id have more flight feed back but barely ran a full pack through it.. i started at dusk and after trimming it out landing and trying the smaller prop it was dark.. i took it up again and did some hovering and just flew it around for a few more minutes to get a feel for it. you cant beat it for the price or features. im running thunder power 2100 mah lipos in it and rite now only mod im considering is to cut the gearbox shaft to run a prop adapter and some apc props.. correction cut extra shaft i have lol. well gonna fly it stock for the next few flights probally.. its not a very fast plane compared to some of my other planes but can move out pretty good and fly nice and slow to... i fly with the throttle every where depending on what im doing and bought this plane to do 3D so its probally gonna touch down a few times.. theres a full line of replacment parts and there fairly inexpensive.. so if your trying to do low 3D stuff that doesnt have much room or time for error you can fix it and get back in the air. id also recomend the e-flite yak 54f if you already have your own electrics.. it floats in the air.. has big throws and is easy to pull out of stuff when your really low.. i consider low around 5 feet. im a 3D beginner and new pilot in general but was very pleased with the short flights i had with the typhoon and plan to just fly it and the yak 54f until its to cold to fly.

I think its a good beginner 3D plane I enjoy flying mine I went with the TP lipo's and get about 20 min flights. The stock battery does ok just shorter flights and of course its alot heavier.

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stickers come off easy/but its a type of covering on the wings thats funtional/theres channels cut out of the foam of each wing you would have to use some type of covering to recover the wings.. most spray paints eat foam/hand brushing with a foam safe works or if you have a airbrush that works just use a faom safe paint/theres a chemical in areosols that eats foam. also ive seen a slo v fly.. there totally different type of plane/the typhoon isnt super fast put its probally a lot faster then a slo v. also even on lo rates the elevator is pretty sensitive and at full deflection on low rates will loop the plane in a tight circle/ive got around 6 flights on mine now it flys really stable and pulls out well when ya get close to ground during tricks.

Get Real

I own both the Parkflyers 540T and the Parkzone Typhoon. I'm a beginner 3D pilot.
So far, I can't hover with either of these two planes for more than 3 or 4 seconds.
Any suggestions as to where I could go to learn what I must do learn how to hover successfully?

Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Jmir

Hi Jmir.. as you know from the 540t posts i visit.. the edge just doesnt have the power stock.. the 540 really needs a good motor to give you enough power to get into a hover and also to correct the planes additude when it gets out of shape in a hover... i dont even do any 3D with the edge anymore.. it didnt do high alpha stuff good to begin with. dont get me wrong i like the edge a lot.... but its more a precision type plane than 3D.. as for the typhoon.. its fully capable of hovering stock and has all the throw ya need to hover/me flying for 3 months doesnt make me a expert.. but ive been learning quick i think.. heres what i'll pass on. first make sure theres as little wind as possable when you try hovering.. its way easier to hover with no wind and the plane flys more precise overall/id concentrate on the typhoon for hovering. if you dont already have realflight or aerofly.. id invest in it.. even though simms are not real world conditions or planes you can get basics and a general knowledge of most of the basics of 3D with out sacrificing your plane. i wreck on realflight all the time lol but i do really nutty stuff for a beginner to be doing.. and it carrys over to my rc flying. i wreck rc planes to/not often but i do.. usually my crashes amount to hard landings. theres a lot to a hover/im not sure what you do when you try a hover. first stay high enoungh to recover(this is a double edge sword.. high is easy to recover but hard to really make out what the plane is doing real well)the typhoon is nowhere as easy to hover as my yak but all the same stick imputs carry over. elevator/rudder/throttle/and aileron to keep from torque rolling and your using all four inputs almost the whole time and constantly trimming with stick imput to keep the plane in a hover. as for where you could go. your best bet would be a local flying field where theres guys doing this stuff/most people in rc are willing to share knowledge with new people for the betterment of the hobby. if i get time i'll try and get my buddy to tape me doing hovers and get my radio in the footage to show the stick movements as they happen and what they make the plane do.. or narrate a hover as im doing it. good luck and keep at it.. its a very difficult move for someone new but youll get it down given time and wont have to think about how to move the sticks.. it will just happen as you hover.

Jmir heres a few clips from the little bit of stuff i did sunday with the typhoon... as usual there was wind... mainly crosswinds/didnt really affect flying but was ticking me off when i went into hovers. im still doing hovers about 20 foot up with it but if conditions are ever rite i'll get it down at eye level. i dont know if you watched the edge clips i posted.. but theres a pretty good size hill behind where we stand/i think it makes the air pretty turbulant next to it... it usually shows in slow fly bys and when we land/the plane is almost always sideways coming in for a landing lol. heres link to typhoon http://media.putfile.com/TyphoonSmallWMV about 1 minute.. a quick hover and some snaps and aileron rolls.

Get Real

Thanks for all the information, tips and video postings. I also saw the long video on the Edge/Typhoon drag race. That was very good.

As to hovering, yes, I'm sure I will get the hang of it soon.

I already do quite a bit with the Edge 540 and can fly it quite safely except for a few rough landings every now and then. It took me a while to learn how to fly inverted and, then, all of a sudden, I started doing it and wondering why did I think it was so difficult to do. Hope the same will happen with hovering.

The Edge comes with the 850kv motor and I ordered the 1000kv motor thinking it would give me more power, but the motor is for greater speed, not power. I should have ordered the 700kv motor which would be much better for hovering since it can take much bigger props.

Thanks again!

Thanks. I went and purchased that Typhoon last night. Seems all the stickers will come off except fot the printed film on the wings. I will cut it off and re-monokote them. Should look sharp. Anyhow, I HAVE PROBLEMS with this dam plane out of the box. Both of my aleron servos have got the severe jitters. I tried swithing them to other channels on the reciever but they still shake. When i move them they make my rudder and elevator glitch as well. Gonna contact the shop and horizon. This is complete bull sheat. Anyone else get this kind of luck?

Jmir youve seen the power i have in the edge then. in the video the airframe is totally stock except landing gear/it cost $70.00 to convert to the gearbox and run the 400 inrunner with 12x6 prop/i think it shows the performane in the video and is well worth the time for the modification. i can post all the steps in my gallery if your interested in really getting power in the edge/also if your dead set on outrunners with no gear box.. E-Flite has a stick adapter for out runners for $4.99 http://www.horizonhobby.com/Shop/ByC...rodID=EFLM1915 and a new outrunner that has more power that they suggest for there edge 540/the edge was pretty heavy and didnt seem to have the power of my parkflyer edge with same motor/gearbox prop combo/heres motor link http://www.horizonhobby.com/Shop/ByC...rodID=EFLM1400 good luck with your hovers.

Stone/ i dont think ive expierenced it with the lipos/it did do that and my buddys does that when the stock green pack is dead. mine did that out of the box before it was fully charged.

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Get Real,

When you have the time, post a photo of the motor conversion to get an idea how it all goes together. Also, you mentioned you had a different landing gear on your Edge. Did you make your own? I modified mine so I could take off and land on grass fields better. Just eliminated the wheel covers, put 2" light foam wheels on it and raised it a bit to better protect propeller.

I did a lot better with the Edge and Typhoon this afternoon. There was no wind so it was easier to see what the control inputs were doing with no wind. I'll get there sooner or later!

I'm not much for speed right now. I just want the motor to be powerful enough to be able to hover.

I also fly a Parkzone Stryker which I can get going pretty fast. Or, at least, fast enough for me. I really like my Stryker and I fly it totally stock. No mods. Eventually I'll move to higher voltage and lipo's, but still having fun with it the way it is.

Thanks for your help again and let's see that motor conversion!

Jmir.. the photos of motor conversion are in my member gallery with basic discriptions of each step with each pic/this conversion is fully reversable should you choose to go back to stock set up.. i dont think youd go back to stock set up though. heres link to the motor im using http://www.horizonhobby.com/Shop/ByC...rodID=EFLM1100 at the bottom of the page is a pdf download with all the motor specs for there current line of available motors. the conversion is fairly easy and takes probally 10 to 20 minutes/cutting the white motor cone is most time consuming/use a sharp exacto.. or slightly heat the exacto to make cuts go easier. im still using stock esc and have had no proplems and probally have well over 10 flights on it with this set up. my next modification will probally be on both the edge and the typhoon.. im gonna use a aluminum prop adapter so i can use apc props/ive already cut a extra prop shaft for the typhoon and when my local shop has prop adapters in i'll cut the eflite gearbox shaft where the threads begin and secure prop adapter there. this should be very close to rite clearance for cowl on edge/if not i can alter size of motor stick to compensate for proper length. post pics of your plane when ya can. as for the landing gear its made by tnt and is a replacement for the e-flite mini edge/i had some qaulity issues with it and im waiting for a response on it so i just used the gear on parkflyer for now. i dont have the rite size of aluminum stock to cut my own gear and was lazy and ordered the tnt gear. im definatley gonna cut my own gear next time.. was $18.00 bucks before tax or shipping for tnt gear/i could get a few different sizes of aluminum stock for that much/i was cleaning laundry room and came across some stock that is just about the rite size/when i get around to making the gear i'll post a pic. good luck with your edge.

Get Real,

Thanks for all this info and illustrations.
It sure made a big difference in power as illustrated in your videos!

The motor in my Edge feels like is loosing power. Not as good as when I got it back in July. I now how to fly mostly at full throttle to do much of anything. Before, I could fly 1/2 throttle most of the time. A buddy told me that's me changing - not the plane. I'm more confident with speed now that I know how to control it well. Who knows?

Jmir

Has anyone re-covered theirs?

I dont particulary like the stock color and design scheme and I REALY dont like how the stock stockers on the wings are not tight at all, as regular iron-on covering would be. This hinders performance not only in drag, but sence its not tight and stiff, it doesnt help keep the wing from flexing in tight or fast manuvers!

I'd realy like to re-cover one with transparent covering!

If you havent got the typhoon yet i have one and it for sure is not an indoor plane...

Loganaz,

Thanks for the post. I held onto my money and dumped it into a Hitec Optic 6 radio for my stryker. The Typhoon is now offered in a Plug and Play setup without TX RX. So I may be getting one soon.

Good Flying

Who has the Typhoon for sale without the radio?

TIA,

CR

Here, but not just now : http://www.horizonhobby.com/Shop/ByC...ProdID=PKZ4175

Charley,

www.horizonhobby.com has it for $160.

It comes complete except for the TX/RX and battery.

I talked to Horizon. They don't expect to have them until Dec. 23rd. Too bad they don't have it without the servos.

Thanks,

CR

it would be great if you would post all the steps to put the bigger ele motor in your plane. thanks for all your help max1

ive decided not to modify typhoon it flys very well stock and after weighing out options.. for 3D it has good power.. its geared 8 to 1 so it makes a lot of torque early in its powerband for hovers and high alpha stuff.. it has a rather thick airfoil so increasing top end power wouldnt increase its top end speed as well as in other planes i modified/if your interested in modifying it still i could give you some suggestions as to how i would do it. the gearbox accepts standard 400 class inrunners so that would be an easy upgrade.. stock motor is 400 3700kv brushless and works well. i had thought about running the e-flite 480 outrunner which is out now and modifying firewall with stick mount or e-flite firewall stick mount adapter. the typhoon has a fairly large wing area and it helps it to fly rather light for its weight. it could make noticeable increases in performance with higher powered set up but would lose run time and probally draw more amps and you would still need to figure out what props work best with new set up. ive moved into micro helis and im concentrating mostly on their set ups now.. if you still want to modify typhoon heres a link to another forum that i posted some pics of a motor modification to.. the planes performance increased all around being modified http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_31..._7/key_/tm.htm others have modified theres and been very happy with results. it should give you some ideas if you want to modify typhoon. if you do modify typhoon please post pics and results and video would be great. thanks and hope this helps