you only brought that thing this morning!!!! you must have had the radio already in there.
sad hes up before me, but it's those F***ING!!!![:@] graphics, phoned monday, "oh yes i forgot to post, send them this week" it's damn monday again tomorrow and they still arnt here. going to ring and drive there wendsnesday my damn self to get them. I know you can't expect customer service when it's mates doing a favour but this is taking the pisk. The Capiche knows whats going on ( seeing as i learnt not to fly now without being totaly finished from the first time ) and as it's been waiting... and waiting, it's gonna spank its self ASAP, and i'm going to be one VERY [:@] MO FO
Question then is what next? i'm always going to have one good wing what ever happens. annoying i've owned a Capiche for what, 8-9 months? and flown if for 2.[:@][:@]

try the file name 'self portrait'

painting cowls ?

I buy the paint from Halfords, they can match up almost any profilm colour, just take a sample of the film with you.

Paint the cowl

Apply stickers, transfers, trim tape etc

Ask my local car body shop to put a clear 2 pack lacquer on it with plenty of plasiciser. I have a mate who works there so I get it FOC,
but I'm sure if you ask nicely enough most car body shops will laquer your cowl for you for a small charge.

You end up with a nice smooth glossy cowl thats completely fuel proof and looks the business.

i need some help on prop selection from you helpful chaps.

im running an irvine 53 on my capiche, its currently got a 13 x 4 on the front, it is too much for it, and its running in.

what would you reccomend, i am flying it more pattern and fast at the moment until i get it the way i like it setup, cheers

12,25x3,75 - works well enough for pattern style flying too cos of the extra rpm

what prop should i use for my satio 72

im using a APC 13x6 which is cheap and does well. Revvs a bit much for 3d so i will probably try a 14x5n. I know archie tried one and really liked it. I know archie will tell you to keep away but how about a Bolly 13.5x6? sprink is using one and it works well. About 4 quiod from steve webb.

thanks sprink for your pics, hopefully graeme can get some flyinjg ones next weekend. RE all elmbridge 4 pics, my dads on duty sat but i got a new plane so i should be able to go both days.

Yes luke i am running it rich, had a few probs with air in the fuel pipes so it wouldnt lean out much without cutting. I intend to sort them this week so hopefully it should be better on saturday. Im using duraglo afterun after each day, in thriough th4e breather tube, never had any probs yet[&:]
Red oil is all over the whole plane luke. Think this is cos my breather tube is flapping around when the engines running.
Other thing is, it drops left in a verticle climb[&:]
Think it might need a bit more right thrust. Has anyone else done this?
If so i want to do it before i do the cowl so i dont have to mess up the paint job.

Kevin if you see this can u come on sunday?

My duty on Sunday, so will definately be there if flyable.

Hi,

I'm certainly planning to be there Sunday.

I have needed to add some right thrust to mine.

Kevin

ok

I will be there sunday also.
Yes you need a bit more right thrust than the stock. Mine still climbs to the left, but i am perfecting gradually a mix on my Tx to counterrract this.
I will be getting some APC 14x5N this week to hopefully try out. Only problem is that its twice the price of the Bolly prop.
As both Archie and I have said i think the 13x6 pulls the plane too hard and fast at low rpms- a prop that slows the model down should make transition to 3D even more comfortable me thinks.Hopefully the 14x5N fits the bill. Will be interesting to see how it effects the side thrust.

AsM
make the breather tube just long enough to exit through a hole at the bottom of the cowl. If your tubing is the thicker stuff any stray gloopy blobs of oil should not block it.

Yup I liked the 14x5N, although oddly enough it SOUDNED like higher RPM on the ground than the 13x6. Given that the different between the props is more than just size (diff plade shape) I was not expecting this... that said, I never tachoed it so it could be just a bad judgement.... I remember wondering if it was gonna be too much, even though YS 63s like to rev... But in the air it sounded smooth and flew smooth..... I still use a throttle curve though to stretch the bottom range.
Works GREAT !

On another point...
Is anyone finding they need up trim to fly straight and level with power on, and then finding it balloon and hard to land when the power comes off..... we had a customer on today claiming this of two C50s in his club. I dont land mine "normally" very often and wondered what others had found... I mean I have my cg back a bit so it does tend to sit back a little but not so its a problem...

wondered what you had found !?

yes, i found that archie, but to be fair, i am not used to it yet.

its tail heavy at the mo, slightly, but needs a little up trim with power on.

the only landings i have done withit so far were on a very very windy and turbulent day but i did struggle to bring it down, having to force it down to avoid a stall

Can't say I have noticed anything. I too now rarely land "properly" anymore, but when I do I find it easy to bring in.

I did a bit, im definately gonna move my cg back a bit. I also noticed it seemed to fly quite nose up[&:]
Not a problem, just something i noticed. It did balloon a lot, think it may have been my idle is too high still tho. As i think i said, best plane ive ever flown

i forgot any flying inperfections in mine long ago
graphics are in the post, should have by tomorrow, might have a Capiche weekend after all.

i have not felt any ballooning or problems landing, maybe its only the expert flyers that can notice these little things, either that or they aint flown anything els!

Elevators are trimmed dead-level on mine, and I don't get any balooning either, with the aero wing.

Mmmm I cant say I recall any trouble bringing mine in for normal landing either...

Must be thrustline or cg related....

With CNC the way it is I cant imagine its a design issue.. What is clear of course, is that the model tolerates a very rearward cg - far beyond what many other models would let you get away with. Maybe we made the mistake of putting accurate cg suggestions in the instructions instead of conservative ones and so some people are finding it a little strange... Its probably that.... Nice chap though he was - liked the model, but he did say he found that Acrowots (because we got onto that topic) were always very quick to come in and difficult to slow up. Now I would not have said that myself... so that might be a clue about what the guy was used to...

Oh well... he seems to enjoy it but as weve all said before now, C50 does do stuff ordinarly planes dont and it kinda teaches you a knoew "way"...

come to think of it... big TOC models come in tail down often dont they... but of course their extra weight aids penetration but they can easily slow up and fall out the sky if you are not prepared...

Archie, didnt mean it as a complaint, i love it!

I think its most probably a builders error and i will try a touch of upthrust along with the rightthrust. Dont really think its cg cos mine is in the center of the range. If it was thrustline that would explain why u only need it power on[&:]
Anyway this is too technical for me... i just enjoy flying

hey Andy I wasnt aiming at you.. or anyone... just wonderin..

Hard to see it as a build error though really when you consider it sort of self jigs.... another possibility could be if the ailerons are not positioned perfectly true to the section?

i think i remember some up trim, just a nats wotsit but i don't remember balloon trouble, tho i do like a floatly landing.
i align my ailerons using that handy little hole in the fuz sides, i used a marker to show it easier.

this could also explaine the pitching towards the belly in KE???

i can try again soon wonder how long it'll last this time

i already thought of this, and have enabled variable flap trim for the next outing to experiment

You could have hit the nail on the head I have found that if the ailerons are not exactly right (measured on an incidence meter) the C50 fly’s very wrong (its ailerons are almost a third of the wing) I noticed it because at the freestyle event lance blew his aileron servos in his synergy 140 and I lent him 2 futaba digital servos and the linkages of off my C50. At the end of the day he gave me back the two servos but kept the servo arms and linkages of off the C50 because he liked them! (long dubro arms and Pete Tindal Linkages) I replaced them before the next flying session and when I flew it was a dog. Flicky and pitched in knife-edge and generally wrong. When I looked over it I noticed (very hard to see) that both ailerons were very slightly drooping. I re-adjusted and everything was back to normal.

Dave

aha!! sounds about right dave, ill re trim them