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thats the finalists list... with some space open for last submissions..
a small few of the photos were terrible beyond believe... and they say the camera never lies ! huh !
a small few of the photos were terrible beyond believe... and they say the camera never lies ! huh !
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Quick update:
Wing now repaired. Will post photos tonight if they are any good. Top spar was broken but cleanly, so easy to repair. Just hope it is strong enough. Bottom spar was ok, but had unglued itself from the central bracing, so that was re glued. couple of cracked ribs, and the top sheeting was broken, but that was it.
I'll start on the fuz tonight. Gives me a chance to reposition the tank. It was still back in between the wings, where it was supposed to be with the pump. I took the pump off, but did not move the tank forward, and there was no muffler preasure either. Amazing the amount of suction that the Saito 72 develops. Was having to run it very rich though.
Yes, i did use thin CA on the hinges. I've done some silly things in the past but not that one [&:]. Looks like i didnt use enough. I'll go over the elevator and ailerons again just to make sure on them.
Archie, I didnt take a nice photo of the underside, but got the old ones so will send one of them to you as well (want all unfair advantages that I can get)!
And thanks everyone for your kind words.
Wing now repaired. Will post photos tonight if they are any good. Top spar was broken but cleanly, so easy to repair. Just hope it is strong enough. Bottom spar was ok, but had unglued itself from the central bracing, so that was re glued. couple of cracked ribs, and the top sheeting was broken, but that was it.

I'll start on the fuz tonight. Gives me a chance to reposition the tank. It was still back in between the wings, where it was supposed to be with the pump. I took the pump off, but did not move the tank forward, and there was no muffler preasure either. Amazing the amount of suction that the Saito 72 develops. Was having to run it very rich though.
Yes, i did use thin CA on the hinges. I've done some silly things in the past but not that one [&:]. Looks like i didnt use enough. I'll go over the elevator and ailerons again just to make sure on them.
Archie, I didnt take a nice photo of the underside, but got the old ones so will send one of them to you as well (want all unfair advantages that I can get)!

And thanks everyone for your kind words.
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Bottom spar was ok, but had unglued itself from the central bracing, so that was re glued.
Im equally amazed now that the spar "came UNGLUED" as I am the hinges pulling out !
I think we need to review what type of glue you are using and/or your application technique.....
Glad its going back together though !
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Sprink... I dont mean to be rude.... but how old is your glue ? What type are you using ? Where do you store it?
Im equally amazed now that the spar "came UNGLUED" as I am the hinges pulling out !
I think we need to review what type of glue you are using and/or your application technique.....
Glad its going back together though !
Bottom spar was ok, but had unglued itself from the central bracing, so that was re glued.
Im equally amazed now that the spar "came UNGLUED" as I am the hinges pulling out !
I think we need to review what type of glue you are using and/or your application technique.....
Glad its going back together though !
The spar only came unglued at one end. Only place I can see that this happened either on the wing or fuz (when pulling the sheeting off the wing, it left nice chunks on the ribs, which I had to cut off).
As for technique, with thin I hold the two pieces to gether, and put a drop on the join.
I'll have to have another look at the hinges, but I still believe I simply did not use enough. As I said I havent used CA hinges much before, and certainly not in such a high stress environment. I usually prefer to hinge with the profilm covering, or failing that epoxy in mylar hinges.
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shame you damaged your capiche Sprink, hope it goes together ok.
Its becoming a bit of a theme, a how to repair a capiche. How many models can you see a step by step guide to assembly on the web, with another step by step repair when you crash.
Its becoming a bit of a theme, a how to repair a capiche. How many models can you see a step by step guide to assembly on the web, with another step by step repair when you crash.
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Its a shame they have to crash at all..
seems that the model is that impressive its pushing the pilot to go beyond their means in some cases... Weve had a few customers come back for a second kit having totalled the first one pushing the envelope, but they have enjoyed the model so much and learnt so much more that they simply want to throw another together... and I spose you could probably half the build time second time around..
with those hinges carefully tile the bottle at an angle that you can flow the cyano to the join slowly but steadily and keep going til it stops wicking in and you get a little bubble of glue left. Then clean it off. If you get a little bubble of glue straight off it likely to be due to the covering so you just bend the hinge back a little to open up the gap and away it will go.
Dont give up on them sprink... cyano hinges really do work..
BTW, WHERE exactly do you store your cyano..?
seems that the model is that impressive its pushing the pilot to go beyond their means in some cases... Weve had a few customers come back for a second kit having totalled the first one pushing the envelope, but they have enjoyed the model so much and learnt so much more that they simply want to throw another together... and I spose you could probably half the build time second time around..
with those hinges carefully tile the bottle at an angle that you can flow the cyano to the join slowly but steadily and keep going til it stops wicking in and you get a little bubble of glue left. Then clean it off. If you get a little bubble of glue straight off it likely to be due to the covering so you just bend the hinge back a little to open up the gap and away it will go.
Dont give up on them sprink... cyano hinges really do work..
BTW, WHERE exactly do you store your cyano..?
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who says obviously not !? You dont sound too confident Philly... remember I have no baring on the desicion at all !
erm.. i wasn't in the finial listing thats why lol
Pictures of those entered will soon be on the website but for now the finalists are (in no particular order);
NOW INCULDES ME

btw, i use RCWorld glue, just 1.50 a bottle and it's in bottles that dont glue themselves easily like most brands do. Long spout to get where you want, comes with a extra long applicator too.
my glues live in the fridge, tho i've got two bottles in the shed right now coz i'm rebuilding and using them, and it's cold lol
Got the Cowl and horns this morning Archie, Thanks.
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my glues live in the fridge
my glues live in the fridge
In use CA is stored on my work bench. Not yet opened bottles are stored in my parents garage along with my planes and so much else of my flyign stuff.
I try not to keep too large a stock of CA as I know it goes off over time.
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Sprink...
You really must persuade her its safe...
Cyano, especially opened, goes of real quick if kept out of the cold and looses its adhesive qualities before it is obviously unuseable..
Surely there is a little spot in the fride door or somewhere you can use... gotta get it cold..
PHIL...........AHH Sorry... typo.. you are supposed to be on that list.
(Would you mind removing the list from your post please....)
You really must persuade her its safe...
Cyano, especially opened, goes of real quick if kept out of the cold and looses its adhesive qualities before it is obviously unuseable..
Surely there is a little spot in the fride door or somewhere you can use... gotta get it cold..
PHIL...........AHH Sorry... typo.. you are supposed to be on that list.
(Would you mind removing the list from your post please....)
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3 bottles dont take up much room, luckly we have two fridges, i use the old one that lives in the conservatory with my planes. the glues are in a sealable bag and then in the cheese bit. so the old dears happy nothing leaks. i also keep fuel in the milk bit if i've brought a gallon that im not using yet.
get a little lunch box and keep them in there, she'll be ok
one day someome will invent a bottle without 'shoulders' so you can use every last drop, not shake the bottle around hoping that last dribble falls down the spout.
get a little lunch box and keep them in there, she'll be ok

one day someome will invent a bottle without 'shoulders' so you can use every last drop, not shake the bottle around hoping that last dribble falls down the spout.
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where dyou get the shortlist from?
i cant find it on the flycapiche site.
sorry sprink about your loss

it was good to finally see lukes capiche flying pity he was to late for the formation rolling harriers
i use grip like sprink, never had any trouble with it, even though its kept out of the fridge.
i do use it quite quickly though.
i cant find it on the flycapiche site.
sorry sprink about your loss


it was good to finally see lukes capiche flying pity he was to late for the formation rolling harriers

i use grip like sprink, never had any trouble with it, even though its kept out of the fridge.
i do use it quite quickly though.
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it was good to finally see lukes capiche flying pity he was to late for the formation rolling harriers
it was good to finally see lukes capiche flying pity he was to late for the formation rolling harriers


I'd never heard of keeping CA in the fridge before. Only nicads. Not an option - there is NO WAY that the lady of the flat will allow such a thing.
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I have found the rolling harriers pretty hard a the EMC field because there always seems to be a crosswind which blows the model over your head if you get mixed up. Hopefully next time it will be a wind blowing down the strip
You could wrap those superglues up in cling film and disgise them as pieces of Cheese
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Superglue i heard is very similar in chemical composition of human skin- that is why it can be used to prevent cuts bleeding if you are out of plasters. You could present that excuse to the lady of the flat and see if it works.

You could wrap those superglues up in cling film and disgise them as pieces of Cheese
!Superglue i heard is very similar in chemical composition of human skin- that is why it can be used to prevent cuts bleeding if you are out of plasters. You could present that excuse to the lady of the flat and see if it works.
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Unlucky Sprink. Seems prangin a c50 is the thing to do! Everyones been at it! Shame as its a well finished model (and the spinner is fine by the way!). Tell your other half its all right 'cos all my superglue is kept in the fridge with the food and it hasn't done me any harm... though my dads going bald... and my eyes are pretty bad... er... On second thoughts a bald girlfriend isn't an attractive idea!
Nice pics Luke. You've obviously got a lot more confidence in it since the freestyle (and your engine will be run in now i guess). I think super glue was developed by the US to stick their soldiers back together in vietnam! You ever had super glue go off quickly on your skin? Not a good time to be an american soldier![:@]
Just walking to uni today (Liverpool) and i've discovered that i live about a minute away from those interesting people at FMK models!! Me and dad actually use their super glue and it seems pretty good. My hinges haven't fallen out any rate!
Ultimate - is it you who has the ultra-light, sneeze and it'll break, Capiche? If so how does it go? I mean, the advantage of bigger models i.e. C140 is that they can fly slowly and more gracefully (at least thats how they appear) whereas smaller models tend to have higher flying speeds etc. I guess its a wing loading thing (as well as scale effects due to renolds numbers and all that stuff) but although the big Capiche can fly slowly etc, it doesn't look "floaty" like a fun-fly for example. I'm just wondering if your super light capiche is too floaty, or whether it behaves more like a bigger plane.. or none of the above! Dunno, just curious.

Nice pics Luke. You've obviously got a lot more confidence in it since the freestyle (and your engine will be run in now i guess). I think super glue was developed by the US to stick their soldiers back together in vietnam! You ever had super glue go off quickly on your skin? Not a good time to be an american soldier![:@]
Just walking to uni today (Liverpool) and i've discovered that i live about a minute away from those interesting people at FMK models!! Me and dad actually use their super glue and it seems pretty good. My hinges haven't fallen out any rate!
Ultimate - is it you who has the ultra-light, sneeze and it'll break, Capiche? If so how does it go? I mean, the advantage of bigger models i.e. C140 is that they can fly slowly and more gracefully (at least thats how they appear) whereas smaller models tend to have higher flying speeds etc. I guess its a wing loading thing (as well as scale effects due to renolds numbers and all that stuff) but although the big Capiche can fly slowly etc, it doesn't look "floaty" like a fun-fly for example. I'm just wondering if your super light capiche is too floaty, or whether it behaves more like a bigger plane.. or none of the above! Dunno, just curious.
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Ultimate is the one with the ultra light C50.
Even the stock kit flies pretty slow and ir does feel like a bigger plane...thats why I have been so impressed with it and pushed on to production... Ive never had anything like it. Im steadily selling off my other models now because I dont fly em... just trying not to buy new ones to fill the gaps ! That said Ive now got a Madness 2 to put together...first appearances tell me its better than the Flip and the Madness 1.... And Im not supposed to be into Fun Fly anymore !
Ho Hum..
Even the stock kit flies pretty slow and ir does feel like a bigger plane...thats why I have been so impressed with it and pushed on to production... Ive never had anything like it. Im steadily selling off my other models now because I dont fly em... just trying not to buy new ones to fill the gaps ! That said Ive now got a Madness 2 to put together...first appearances tell me its better than the Flip and the Madness 1.... And Im not supposed to be into Fun Fly anymore !
Ho Hum..
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Gizmo, the C50 can fly very slowly. On the first flight I had too much expo on my throttle (minus 60%) and it was flying "too slowly". This is too slowly for me, I'm used to quicker flying models, the plane had no problems with it.
A mate of mine was superglued together once. Still has the scar to show it. Came off his push bike riding down an alley drunk and landed on his face [:@]. At casualty they decided they couldn't stitch his lip back together so used superglue.
A mate of mine was superglued together once. Still has the scar to show it. Came off his push bike riding down an alley drunk and landed on his face [:@]. At casualty they decided they couldn't stitch his lip back together so used superglue.
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IS the fun fly wing actually out? how much stock have you left archie?
Yes, crembo prezzie this year is a C50 hopfully wit both wings!!! Ill also get a YS for it wen i save enough money
Yes, crembo prezzie this year is a C50 hopfully wit both wings!!! Ill also get a YS for it wen i save enough money
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Malc told me off for flying it like my Cougar it acts so light, but it doesn't like to be flown like this, it isn't at it's best and it's very close to teaching you a lesson.
However, bolt on the FF wing, ooooh mamma you've got a whole new ballpark to play in. the flight before it snapped i was throwing it around more than i normally do with the Cougar in such wind. And i've had my Cougar 2 years and lots of crashes now.
However, bolt on the FF wing, ooooh mamma you've got a whole new ballpark to play in. the flight before it snapped i was throwing it around more than i normally do with the Cougar in such wind. And i've had my Cougar 2 years and lots of crashes now.


