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Old 05-05-2005 | 08:48 PM
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SCTCRASH

I read a lot of forums and now spcially thes about u can do .46 .

I read your configuration of a .46 plane and i don´t understand the excess of all :
servos 90 oz
6 volts for more power on the servos
on .46 put a .90

I think Great plane design thes .46 to a light fly.´if any one want to have more power maibe have to buy U CAN DO .60. Because if i put more weight on UCD .46, i change wing load and then i change all the flying type of thes plane. I read guys break the fire wall--break the landing gear---- break elevator-----have fluter because they want have a fast plane and buy a UCD .46....................

I have a UCD .46 and I put .46 on. I have S.T. .60 in a box but a buy thes plane because i have a very light wing load and that make thes plane, a very good 3D.

Well, thas its my think about,

sorry my english[:@][&:][:'(][>:][&o]

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Old 05-05-2005 | 09:05 PM
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sctcrash...for what its worth I would recommend a 90 oz in servo for rudder...I would also recommend running 6 volt battery pack..especially if your using digitals ...digitals use tremendous amounts of power over standard...the rudder is a very large control surface, it needs lots of power to drive it properly and without slop..follow great planes suggestions in the manual ..this plane comes out to right around 6 lbs, a 46 engine will not do it justice..power to weight just is'nt there..don't get me wrong it will fly with a 46 but it would be lacking for my liking ..and one other thing ...make sure you check the mechanical advantage of the the servo arms..if you don't get enough throw with standard arms don't move the linkage into the closest hole on the control surface(horn)..I think that some of the rudder troubles have been a high torque servo on the rudder and set in as close as possible to the control surface and the servo is ripping the rudder out ...(MTC) if you don't have enough throw buy longer arms! Dubro makes extra longs for pretty much all servos manuf.

good luck with build! You'll love it ..just like the rest of us !
Old 05-05-2005 | 09:08 PM
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CA over covering?? hhmmm what happens if ...aahhh you know what I'm going to say ..lol the yak kit went together really well ...really starting to think boxxer lol just not sure if i have the time..good luck with Kange !!
Old 05-05-2005 | 09:23 PM
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sctchrash, if all you have is a 46 size engine, then by all means use it. As for the servos, go with a high torque on the rudder, you will need it when you start doing any thing but just flying the pattern. If you read back thru the posts, you will find alot of tips to help out with your build. I think that the 6exa is a very good raido, but it is limited with some of the function. You should be able to set up the plane with the dual aeilerons on 1 and 6, and I think that you will need to turn on the flaperon function on the raido also. If you can swing the cash, get a servo reversor for the elevator. The 6exa won't be able to get it to work very well. Just remember to mind the throws on the control surfaces. For my first flights I had them set lower than the low rates and set up the dual rates so that on high rates, it was at the low (Great planes recommened) settings. Helps to get used to it. Try to get the CG around the 5 inch mark. the 6 volt batt is a good choice. Just remember, some times right after charging the batt, some servos will jitter a bit but is should go away. It happens with mine. I just use a batt checker with a load on it for about 15 to 20 seconds and it solved the problem with mine.
Old 05-05-2005 | 09:43 PM
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ok ill start a firestorm, i fly mine kinda hard and all i use are jr 537s with 42 0z, i think, hell i used 537s on my 60 too[X(] and it did everything i wanted it to, i guess if you got the extra $ get some 90 oz but i think there a wast,not trying to heat anybody up but these are just my expieriences,go with the 44oz, they will work fine.
i promise to eat my words if anything ever happens and post picks of it too
Old 05-05-2005 | 09:44 PM
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no problems gjeffers? no stripped gears ? notta? thats good to know..I always overkill my setups I think anyway ..

I hope you never have to eat your words!! too darn heartbreaking when it goes in ...makes you want to stop flying ..at least until tommorow ..
Old 05-05-2005 | 09:53 PM
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I am runing a Saito 100 in my you can do 46 with 51x4 apc but I am running the cheapest servoes I can get 3003 futaba on everything. this is the only plane I have been able to do a vertical climing flat spin and a cartwheel.I just did 3 cart wheels in a row. Nife edge is still hard it reqiers aleron and elavator input.this power is to editing I don't what to fly any thing else
Old 05-05-2005 | 10:03 PM
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MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM, I THINK SCTCRASH UNDERSTAND........MMMMM YES...

Old 05-05-2005 | 10:05 PM
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alright john you got me[&:]i did break a tooth on my 60 on a 537 that was on my 60 size but it landed so good anyways i really didnt think about it much and bought a gear set and replaced it,but i think the cause of that was the mechanical advantage issuei still feel confidend with the 537s[8D]
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Hey no fires started here, he asked for suggestions, and he is getting them, that is what the fourm is about guys. Every body does their own thing that works for them. This has to be the most civil fourm that I have been involved with so far. Every body adds alitte bit to it with each post. So lets keep the Ideas going and lets have some fun with these darm plastic coated stick bags[&:][&:][&:][&:][&:]
Old 05-05-2005 | 10:12 PM
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EL ****CANO,the saito 100 only weighs 21oz and is great engine for 46 because i only use 3/4 the fuel i used on my 60 size and i like go up fast,(NOT DOWN)
Old 05-05-2005 | 10:23 PM
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Hi all, My servos are on six volts, 57oz/in and the rudder 80oz/in
and a 40oz on the throttle.. I think a 57oz would have worked on
the rudder since I can't give it full throws on the rudder because
of way too much coupling then... so no K.E. loops for me, I can
K.E. it pretty good, I almost have all the elev. coupleing mixed
out, but can't seem to get the Ail. just right... Anyway that's my
story and I'm sticking to it:-)

hockeyrules99... That's what I told Kangke, But that's what they
said.... So Maybe I'll see how it goes this weekend.....
Old 05-05-2005 | 10:35 PM
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NOT DOWN,,,,,,, Congratulations,,,, thats very nice.......

hey mans,,,,, all we are glad with our planes and that is....... we can write all our experiences but dont hurt to anybody.....

so, don´t worry,,,, be happy.

i´m happy i´m playing.... on the week i write hear and on weekend i fly,,,,, i´m happy
Old 05-05-2005 | 10:45 PM
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yes 6 volt is the only way to go all my u can do's are on 6volt. but wate what about more volts yes i did try it whith lithium ion 2 cell no realator the futaba 148 & 3003 loved it thay moved like degitels servos but fma&high tek did'not like it the jumped all over I am going to try it in A plane and see how long the servos last[>:]


remeber if a little is good more is better !!!!!!!!!!!
Old 05-05-2005 | 10:49 PM
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My advice on servos is to make sure when you move the right stick to the right that the right aileron goes up...or is that down? Maybe that 's why I'm doing all that crashing.
Thanks,
Barry
Old 05-05-2005 | 10:57 PM
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Hey, just wondering who all of you use the wheel pants on their planes? I'd like to put them on just for the looks of it. It doesn't seem like it would effect the weight that much.........

I'm using a 90 some odd oz for the rudder and 70 some odd oz for the elevators.

I should have flown this evening but to be nice to the wifey I stayed home and did some painting on the fence. I plan to go tomorrow but it might rain.........[>:]

Forgot to mention, the oddest things happened the other night at the field. I was just leaving when one of the guys flying called my attention. I thought he wanted to show me how well he could fly his new plane so I said "looks great, good job" and calls back to me and says "no, come here" He sounded paniced so I went out there and he hands me his transmitter and says "here, fly my plane" (his plane is up in the air) So I start flying it around for him and he says "Thanks, I have a phone call coming in" and starts talking to his girlfriend. [:-]........... Finally he gets off the phone and takes over flying again. [:-] I couldn't believe it. Is that weird or what?
Old 05-05-2005 | 10:58 PM
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Barry.. Maybe it's not coupling right.... Or is that left... D_m I
hope I don't start crashing...... My C.A. is not dry on top of
the Ultracote yet....
Old 05-05-2005 | 11:00 PM
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WHAT TIME IS THERE??????

HERE IS 12 P.M. I GO TO BED, GOOD NIGHT, HAVE A GOOD DAY...

SERGIO
Old 05-05-2005 | 11:47 PM
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its only 9:45pm hear in rainy ca. the wheel pants do look good but thay dont when thay go trow the wing the landing gear block is veary weak !
Old 05-05-2005 | 11:53 PM
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The best way to get CA to dry is to touch it with your finger.
Thanks,
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Old 05-06-2005 | 12:46 AM
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What about a GMS 76 on a UCD 46?
Old 05-06-2005 | 06:37 AM
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Raid .. thats a good looking plane(kangke) just checked them out ..at just over 4 lbs the 46 should do pretty well ..but a YS63 .Is it a foam core fuse? looks kinda like a morris hobbies ...is it close to being done? they want you to slip the wing through the fuse then CA it?
Old 05-06-2005 | 09:02 AM
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Wow, thanks for all of the information everyone. I think i am going to run out and get the 6V for sure. Thought about just running an 8.4 from my electric, but sounds like that will give me jitter, and probably fry my servos.

This will be my first real attempt at #D flying so I will start with the 57 on 6v all around and improve as I go.
Old 05-06-2005 | 09:47 AM
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Sctcrash,

I am using all standard servos and battery packs on my set up. I have had no issues yet, they might come down the road, we will see. I can tell you that I am thinking of getting the battery pack upgrade and all digital servos as I move forward. I think the torque and the response will make the 3d thing a tone easier, but it is pricey.

Good luck on you're build.

Tom
Old 05-06-2005 | 09:58 AM
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Alright,

Reversing Y-Harness, Check.
6v Reciever battery denied.

On to the next LHS.


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