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From: Mary Esther,
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Fred,
I like that! Very Nice!!!! I am going to go to the LHS and see if I can find som of that! Thats what I was looking for on the canopy color! Thanks a million!
Father Joe! Great to hear from you and yea I know I sound real nervous (cause I am) but I would just hate to destroy a nice plane! No SAD patch needed here! I know once I get her up and get settled in all should be fine! Man it feels like a long time since I have flown with work load changing and the bad weather... Oh well I can't complain its not like up north where most of you all are! Snow and real cold!
Ok guys again thank you very much for the advise I will let you know how things go as I progress! You all are the best!
Chuck
I like that! Very Nice!!!! I am going to go to the LHS and see if I can find som of that! Thats what I was looking for on the canopy color! Thanks a million!
Father Joe! Great to hear from you and yea I know I sound real nervous (cause I am) but I would just hate to destroy a nice plane! No SAD patch needed here! I know once I get her up and get settled in all should be fine! Man it feels like a long time since I have flown with work load changing and the bad weather... Oh well I can't complain its not like up north where most of you all are! Snow and real cold!
Ok guys again thank you very much for the advise I will let you know how things go as I progress! You all are the best!
Chuck
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Chuck,
Fred can probably verify this...I think the transparent Testor's comes in various colors as well.
And I can't agree with Joe enough...at the recommended low rates the UCD is as solid as a trainer!
JLK
Fred can probably verify this...I think the transparent Testor's comes in various colors as well.
And I can't agree with Joe enough...at the recommended low rates the UCD is as solid as a trainer!
JLK
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From: Mary Esther,
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JLK,
Out standing!!!! I might just look around for the perfect color! Local hobby shops are not beig here except for RC Cars and one of the guys in my club has a shop of his own but he is not open currently (recovery from surgery) So off to Pensacola or maybe a bit further away if I have too! Love this area since it is not a big city area but would love to have some great local stuff as well! Oh well can'r complain!
Guys thanks a million for the vote of confidence and re-assurance with my current plane. Back in the day 1987-1991 when I flew I was without fear it seems. As I get older it seems I am more cautious! Ok too long of a story! Thanks Guys!
Chuck
Out standing!!!! I might just look around for the perfect color! Local hobby shops are not beig here except for RC Cars and one of the guys in my club has a shop of his own but he is not open currently (recovery from surgery) So off to Pensacola or maybe a bit further away if I have too! Love this area since it is not a big city area but would love to have some great local stuff as well! Oh well can'r complain!
Guys thanks a million for the vote of confidence and re-assurance with my current plane. Back in the day 1987-1991 when I flew I was without fear it seems. As I get older it seems I am more cautious! Ok too long of a story! Thanks Guys!
Chuck
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Chuck,
I had to smile when I read your last note.
I too flew back in the '80s.
Started around '81.
Was headed down the pattern road when I was "seduced by the dark side"...
Helicopters!
I finished 5th F3C at the Nats in '86.
Was a team flyer for Miniature and then Circus Hobbies.
I was at least in the top five in the country then burned out and quit.
I was really a hot rock.
Got back in this summer.
I am older and slower and sure can't see like I used to now that I'm 55!
No more nerves of steel that's for sure!
I couldn't have picked a better plane then the UCD to get back in.
JLK
I had to smile when I read your last note.
I too flew back in the '80s.
Started around '81.
Was headed down the pattern road when I was "seduced by the dark side"...
Helicopters!
I finished 5th F3C at the Nats in '86.
Was a team flyer for Miniature and then Circus Hobbies.
I was at least in the top five in the country then burned out and quit.
I was really a hot rock.
Got back in this summer.
I am older and slower and sure can't see like I used to now that I'm 55!
No more nerves of steel that's for sure!
I couldn't have picked a better plane then the UCD to get back in.
JLK
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From: Mary Esther,
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Well I was no pro or anything close to that But I did have a few planes and really enjoyed the club in Germany I was in. I learned allot about aircraft, building them and aerodynamics. I think the thing I will always treasure most is the friendships though, I still email them and send pictures often. Some of the best folks I will ever know, A positive is they taught me a bit of German too! Good times though!
I too wish I never left the hobby , just happens I guess but as you and I know there is a feeling to come back to the hobby, talk with the folks in the club, Get others involved! Learn lots! Oh yea I get so much info from all sorts of folks and great ideas as well! Good stuff I tell ya! Well I better get off my soap box!!! Thanks again
Chuck
I too wish I never left the hobby , just happens I guess but as you and I know there is a feeling to come back to the hobby, talk with the folks in the club, Get others involved! Learn lots! Oh yea I get so much info from all sorts of folks and great ideas as well! Good stuff I tell ya! Well I better get off my soap box!!! Thanks again
Chuck
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Hi, Chuck
Our friend JLK had it right, Testor has several transparent colors and some will gag a maggot.
I should have mentioned that; and also, that you can apply it light or darker with several coats.
Here is one of my float planes, a Piper Cub of course, with a medium coat. Above it is a Dave Patrick 1.20 bipe.
Regards, FRED
Our friend JLK had it right, Testor has several transparent colors and some will gag a maggot.
I should have mentioned that; and also, that you can apply it light or darker with several coats.
Here is one of my float planes, a Piper Cub of course, with a medium coat. Above it is a Dave Patrick 1.20 bipe.
Regards, FRED
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Hello, JLK
The Cub is a Goldberg kit and the floats are also Goldberg floats. I built them up from a balsa and lite ply kit. I put metal from a couple of tin cans at the high contact points and I can taxi it on to the stony beach at the lake with no concern. I have an O.S. .91 4cycle up front.
I have to travel to Blue Marsh lake near Reading, PA 90 minutes each way so I fly mostly on snow and on the wheels. I built the clipped wing version and it still floats a lot so I use spoilerons to spot land it.
Regards, FRED
The Cub is a Goldberg kit and the floats are also Goldberg floats. I built them up from a balsa and lite ply kit. I put metal from a couple of tin cans at the high contact points and I can taxi it on to the stony beach at the lake with no concern. I have an O.S. .91 4cycle up front.
I have to travel to Blue Marsh lake near Reading, PA 90 minutes each way so I fly mostly on snow and on the wheels. I built the clipped wing version and it still floats a lot so I use spoilerons to spot land it.
Regards, FRED
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From: Mary Esther,
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JLKonn,
Don't know why it didn't get thru? OK guys I did take off the canopy last night and did get some window tint. All they carried around here is Dark (black tint) so I went light with a couple coats. I am not impressed it is not great but it will work. I applied the first coat and tried a second to even it out and well I guess it just gets the best of me so I am going to re-mount it soon. Not that I will have any good weather this weekend to fly it But I will get it ready to go. After I attach it and get it all done I will attach a picture!
Fred Nice plane brother! Very nice, really love cubs, one day I will get one I am sure!!! The floats look great Too! Very nice! Well guys I better get to some form of work this morning but I will check back in a bit! Again thanks for all the advise and assistance!
Don't know why it didn't get thru? OK guys I did take off the canopy last night and did get some window tint. All they carried around here is Dark (black tint) so I went light with a couple coats. I am not impressed it is not great but it will work. I applied the first coat and tried a second to even it out and well I guess it just gets the best of me so I am going to re-mount it soon. Not that I will have any good weather this weekend to fly it But I will get it ready to go. After I attach it and get it all done I will attach a picture!
Fred Nice plane brother! Very nice, really love cubs, one day I will get one I am sure!!! The floats look great Too! Very nice! Well guys I better get to some form of work this morning but I will check back in a bit! Again thanks for all the advise and assistance!
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Chuck, I really want you to get the maiden over with so you can tell us how much fun it was.
My U-Can .46 and my Twist fly so well and are so much fun, that I didn't really want to try any other planes for 3-D. However...I couldn't resist buying a .60 U-Can and I bought a Saito 1.00 for it. My first Saito was no good, vibrated so much the carb broke off the backplate and I sent it back to Horizon. (yeah, I balanced the prop) They replaced it immediately and the second one vibrated, backfired, and I sent that one back also. They returned it saying they replaced the rear bearing and now it should run fine. Yeah, right. I've replaced bearings but never because the engine vibrated. So now it sits in its box, brand new, never flown and a quart of fuel run through it. This is why I've had a .60 U-Can behind the furnace for a year. Now I want to put a Y-S 110 in it but they are not available right now Hobbies so I took the
Y-S 120 from my Dave Patrick bipe and last night mounted it on my .60 U-Can. I will get serious about finishing my .60 after the Olympic Games. Now that I have the motor mounted I have to figure out how to do the plumbing and where I want to put the tank. The mid wing planes make it tough to put the tank on the C.G. My .46 tank is behind the firewall and it flat spins better when the fuel is depleted, as you would expect.
Different people have different ways of building and my way is to do the motor mounting first so I don't have to worry about gouging the tail fins while twisting the fuse around.
By the way, I am not knocking Saito engines, just the experience I've had. I put a Saito 1.5 in a Cap 232 once and liked it...for a short while. I first put a Saito .72GK in my Twist and went finally to an O.S. .70 4C which runs just great. My three Saito engines are cleaned up and resting peacefully. I fly with Cool Power 15% in the winter. In the summer I go to Omega 15%.
A flier in the Lancaster Club had a U-Can-Do .60 plane and used to talk about his engine flooding out and also about tearing out the landing gear block. I joined another club closer to home and haven't flown at that club for over a year so I don't know how he resolved either problem. I punched out the 6-32 T nuts and replaced them with 1/4-20 T nuts as I did in my U-.46 and flowed some thinned epoxy around the 4 sides of the block.
Chuck, I am practically vibrating with anticipation waiting for your maiden flight !!
Talk to ya later, FRED
My U-Can .46 and my Twist fly so well and are so much fun, that I didn't really want to try any other planes for 3-D. However...I couldn't resist buying a .60 U-Can and I bought a Saito 1.00 for it. My first Saito was no good, vibrated so much the carb broke off the backplate and I sent it back to Horizon. (yeah, I balanced the prop) They replaced it immediately and the second one vibrated, backfired, and I sent that one back also. They returned it saying they replaced the rear bearing and now it should run fine. Yeah, right. I've replaced bearings but never because the engine vibrated. So now it sits in its box, brand new, never flown and a quart of fuel run through it. This is why I've had a .60 U-Can behind the furnace for a year. Now I want to put a Y-S 110 in it but they are not available right now Hobbies so I took the
Y-S 120 from my Dave Patrick bipe and last night mounted it on my .60 U-Can. I will get serious about finishing my .60 after the Olympic Games. Now that I have the motor mounted I have to figure out how to do the plumbing and where I want to put the tank. The mid wing planes make it tough to put the tank on the C.G. My .46 tank is behind the firewall and it flat spins better when the fuel is depleted, as you would expect.
Different people have different ways of building and my way is to do the motor mounting first so I don't have to worry about gouging the tail fins while twisting the fuse around.
By the way, I am not knocking Saito engines, just the experience I've had. I put a Saito 1.5 in a Cap 232 once and liked it...for a short while. I first put a Saito .72GK in my Twist and went finally to an O.S. .70 4C which runs just great. My three Saito engines are cleaned up and resting peacefully. I fly with Cool Power 15% in the winter. In the summer I go to Omega 15%.
A flier in the Lancaster Club had a U-Can-Do .60 plane and used to talk about his engine flooding out and also about tearing out the landing gear block. I joined another club closer to home and haven't flown at that club for over a year so I don't know how he resolved either problem. I punched out the 6-32 T nuts and replaced them with 1/4-20 T nuts as I did in my U-.46 and flowed some thinned epoxy around the 4 sides of the block.
Chuck, I am practically vibrating with anticipation waiting for your maiden flight !!
Talk to ya later, FRED
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Hello, JLK
I read your note to Chuck about being seduced by the dark side. Cute.
Anybody who is that good at flying a chopper has my admiration and respect.
To get to that level, it takes somebody with much more than the usual amount of talent, guts and determination.
Congratulations!!
I read your note to Chuck about being seduced by the dark side. Cute.
Anybody who is that good at flying a chopper has my admiration and respect.
To get to that level, it takes somebody with much more than the usual amount of talent, guts and determination.
Congratulations!!
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From: Mary Esther,
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Fred,
Sorry to hear that you had so many problems with the Saito 100, I sure hope I don't have that kind of luck! Acro Joe has a YS 110 on his and thinks it is the greatest thing since sliced bread! If you look back on the previous threads (not too sure what the numbers are) there are pictures of the YS installed and how the plumbing is installed. He is a great guy and very helpful! I added a piece of wooden dowel on the main gear block, in between the other two allready installed and epoxied it in, he suggests some tri stock as well but mine already had some installed in it. I believe he has his tank mounted on the CG and has had zero problems. He also had bearing problems with the Saito 100.
I run Omega 15% Castor/Syn in my 100 and use after run oil (Marvel Air Tool) and only have 1/2 gall run thru it so we will see how mine does too! It was a tough debate to go Satio or Os but I was told Saito was a great engine so I decided to give it a try! As for the maiden, I too am very anxious and want to get it in the air bad! Sometimes I believe patience is a good thing and I just better wait for good weather and calm winds. Possibly next week I believe the winds will be down to around 7-8 Mph, more my speed! No doubt I will be telling a story of either how good she flies or that I now own some scrap balsa! Lets just say the better part OK! If I could just get away from work I would be set but Duty calls and I can't complain! I live good and am not going overseas this year so I am a happy camper!
Have fun Fred and thanks for the advise and info!
Chuck
Sorry to hear that you had so many problems with the Saito 100, I sure hope I don't have that kind of luck! Acro Joe has a YS 110 on his and thinks it is the greatest thing since sliced bread! If you look back on the previous threads (not too sure what the numbers are) there are pictures of the YS installed and how the plumbing is installed. He is a great guy and very helpful! I added a piece of wooden dowel on the main gear block, in between the other two allready installed and epoxied it in, he suggests some tri stock as well but mine already had some installed in it. I believe he has his tank mounted on the CG and has had zero problems. He also had bearing problems with the Saito 100.
I run Omega 15% Castor/Syn in my 100 and use after run oil (Marvel Air Tool) and only have 1/2 gall run thru it so we will see how mine does too! It was a tough debate to go Satio or Os but I was told Saito was a great engine so I decided to give it a try! As for the maiden, I too am very anxious and want to get it in the air bad! Sometimes I believe patience is a good thing and I just better wait for good weather and calm winds. Possibly next week I believe the winds will be down to around 7-8 Mph, more my speed! No doubt I will be telling a story of either how good she flies or that I now own some scrap balsa! Lets just say the better part OK! If I could just get away from work I would be set but Duty calls and I can't complain! I live good and am not going overseas this year so I am a happy camper!
Have fun Fred and thanks for the advise and info!
Chuck
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Wind with this bird is no biggy, unless...........................its a cross wind. The size of the rudder is obvious, combined with that one nasty habit of pitching to the wheels on rudder application makes for a very interesting cross wind landing. A light wind is not a problem, a good cross wind is challenging.
Yes, one of the benefits of a pressurized system is the option of tank location and the mod is simple with the UCD. Thought I had the pic cataloged. Well, its in this thread somewhere. Joe
Yes, one of the benefits of a pressurized system is the option of tank location and the mod is simple with the UCD. Thought I had the pic cataloged. Well, its in this thread somewhere. Joe
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Joe, thanks for the picture. There is a lot on info on this thread, and I am a Y-S and O.S. man mostly. I haven't been too lucky with the Saitos but I know some guys have proposed marriage to them.
I plan to use two Sullivan fillers for the Y-S and fabricated an aluminum bracket bolted to the motor mount of the inverted engine. How did you mount your fillers?
I really hated to take my Y-S off the biplane but have no clue as to how long it will be before Central Hobbies gets the 110 engines in stock. One of our fliers has a 110 mounted in a Showtime but felt he had to go to 30% fuel to get the performance he wanted. The Showtime
looks good in the air and is a well built kit. This guy likes to tail touch from his hovers and is really good at that. He says it took him 3 years, 8 U-Can-Do .46 planes and a two axis gyro. He now can do it without a gyro.
I too, laughed at the pole incident. Similar poles have been used by the slope fliers at Chickies cliff to get their planes out of the trees in the valley but haven't had as good a story or as much mental stress to tell me about.
I don't think I will get seduced by the electrics, but I have a mini Funtana electric ready to fly.
I'm enjoying reading your posts. I don't usually spend much time on the net but I'm having fun here.
Regards, FRED
I plan to use two Sullivan fillers for the Y-S and fabricated an aluminum bracket bolted to the motor mount of the inverted engine. How did you mount your fillers?
I really hated to take my Y-S off the biplane but have no clue as to how long it will be before Central Hobbies gets the 110 engines in stock. One of our fliers has a 110 mounted in a Showtime but felt he had to go to 30% fuel to get the performance he wanted. The Showtime
looks good in the air and is a well built kit. This guy likes to tail touch from his hovers and is really good at that. He says it took him 3 years, 8 U-Can-Do .46 planes and a two axis gyro. He now can do it without a gyro.
I too, laughed at the pole incident. Similar poles have been used by the slope fliers at Chickies cliff to get their planes out of the trees in the valley but haven't had as good a story or as much mental stress to tell me about.
I don't think I will get seduced by the electrics, but I have a mini Funtana electric ready to fly.
I'm enjoying reading your posts. I don't usually spend much time on the net but I'm having fun here.
Regards, FRED
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Went to the harware store and picked up some P clips. They are used for mounting the 1/4 inch plastic lines like the ones that run to a refridgerator water supply. Hold well, no chafing or bad reaction with the fuel line. You can see the filters and the one way valve in the pic. Joe
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Thanks again, Joe
I see from your picture that you use a filter in your Y-S exhaust line. I do also, but most folks don't.
I have been reading some of your posts and you certainly are informative and a good mechanic.
With my Y-S engines I always have two fillers. One is to fill the tank and the other is to exhaust the tank pressure after a motor run and also as an overflow. I know the U-Can .60 isn't a pattern plane but this way I can cowl everything inside and don't have to pull off hoses. I prefer the Sullivan fillers even though they take up more room.
Regards, FRED
I see from your picture that you use a filter in your Y-S exhaust line. I do also, but most folks don't.
I have been reading some of your posts and you certainly are informative and a good mechanic.
With my Y-S engines I always have two fillers. One is to fill the tank and the other is to exhaust the tank pressure after a motor run and also as an overflow. I know the U-Can .60 isn't a pattern plane but this way I can cowl everything inside and don't have to pull off hoses. I prefer the Sullivan fillers even though they take up more room.
Regards, FRED
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Hey, Chuck
I don't know what your problem is with the wind, don't you know that the wind always (well almost always) dies at dusk? All you have to do is get a couple of people to stand on the runway with flashlights or matches and tape a couple of glow sticks on your wings and take off. Everybody says how easy it is to land this plane so...what's the problem?
If I have to wait much longer for this operation I may die of old age. It's too late for me to die young. So... get with the program.
Patiently yours, FRED
I don't know what your problem is with the wind, don't you know that the wind always (well almost always) dies at dusk? All you have to do is get a couple of people to stand on the runway with flashlights or matches and tape a couple of glow sticks on your wings and take off. Everybody says how easy it is to land this plane so...what's the problem?
If I have to wait much longer for this operation I may die of old age. It's too late for me to die young. So... get with the program.

Patiently yours, FRED
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Joe, I didn't even consider fuel dots, I don't know anyone who uses them. I didn't know[sm=bananahead.gif] they would handle the Y-S pressure. That is certainly a better way to go than spring loaded fuelers.
Will you please tell me which ones you use? If you do, I promise not to fart in your confessional booth. [>:]
Regards, FRED
Will you please tell me which ones you use? If you do, I promise not to fart in your confessional booth. [>:]
Regards, FRED
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Fred,
I told ya Father Joe would ruin you didn't I? Talk you into the monster engines on the Dark Side! No just kidding as I said though he is great and very knowledgeable on this plane for sure! Got to love the great stories too! Wind...Ahh never windy here in Sunny Florida...Ok so you all know the truth!
Ok so I pulled the canopy, tinted it (not real happy, re mounted it STRAIGHT this time and well am charging the batteries as we speak so if I get her in the air I will fill ya in on it! Heck my wife even keeps asking me when..... Oh my its like Olympic pressure! Is he gonna choke or will it be a blast!!!
I am sure I will be enjoying it as long as it flies well and I don't have an engine shut down in flight! Again thanks all, you guys have made this even more enjoyable than I expected!
Thanks Guys!
Chuck
I told ya Father Joe would ruin you didn't I? Talk you into the monster engines on the Dark Side! No just kidding as I said though he is great and very knowledgeable on this plane for sure! Got to love the great stories too! Wind...Ahh never windy here in Sunny Florida...Ok so you all know the truth!
Ok so I pulled the canopy, tinted it (not real happy, re mounted it STRAIGHT this time and well am charging the batteries as we speak so if I get her in the air I will fill ya in on it! Heck my wife even keeps asking me when..... Oh my its like Olympic pressure! Is he gonna choke or will it be a blast!!!
I am sure I will be enjoying it as long as it flies well and I don't have an engine shut down in flight! Again thanks all, you guys have made this even more enjoyable than I expected!
Thanks Guys!
Chuck
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Chuck, thought I would show you how an ANGEL does a HARRIER.
Also...our club really has night flies. However, I never have participated because I don't have any throw away airplanes.
Regards, FRED
Also...our club really has night flies. However, I never have participated because I don't have any throw away airplanes.
Regards, FRED




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