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Old 02-24-2006 | 09:41 PM
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I had to cut a slit in the bottom of the cowl to get it off. Cut from the rear of the muffler cutout to the edge of the cowl. It holds itself together ok but I installed a small piece of lite ply and screw the sides together.
Old 02-25-2006 | 09:16 AM
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Pope 61,
I have had my cowl off several times without doing anything to it. Just take the prop nut and washer off and then tilt the cowl down at the front and push the sides in, but not to far. This was able to raise the rear of the cowl to clear the needle. It was still a tight fit, but it works fine for me.
Old 02-26-2006 | 07:50 PM
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Aaaaahhh! We've got Cub!

The maiden was a tremendous success. The day was absolutely cloudless, mid 40's (F) with 5 to 15 wind straight down the runway. The wind fell off late in the afternoon to almost nothing.

This is one sweet airplane! The plane has no issues at all as far as flight PLUS, I experienced no ground handling issues other than it wanting to roll tail high at takeoff speed. I had no nose overs, it just looked like a dog lookin' for a fire hydrant. (It wasn't that bad, really.)

Flight was very easy. I could train with this plane easily. It also is NOT a super rudder dependant plane. Aileron and elevator (bank & yank) flyers need not worry about this one. It is a slow responding Cub as far as the ailerons go but, the tail is very responsive.

I have to admit, I got the "lazies" and never did take the cowl off. I put a short lenght of fuel line on the needle inlet and a fuel filter hanging out of the cowl to get to the fuel line to re-fuel it. The 46NT required no adjustment to the low end and a minor richening to the high end and ran flawlessly. That being said, I'm still going to put a 4 stroke on it. Cubs just ought to go "putt, putt, putt, putt" all day long.

Jimmy left before he got to fly it, where'd ya' go??

I'm happy!

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Old 02-28-2006 | 08:34 PM
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Dave is too shy....Yea right!!!!....To brag on himself...but I will do it for him!! Beautiful plane, great flight, great pilot....even though I did need binoculars sometimes to see it on the first flight!!!

Just jokin...great flight!!!

If you guy's want to see it go to

http://www.wtrcf.org/photo%20gallery...-feb-2006b.htm

Old 02-28-2006 | 10:13 PM
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Thanks Jimmy. The excessive altitude was for the stall test. About 10 mistakes high![X(] Right up to the inner limits of the moron-o-sphere.... I don't know why I was worried....

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Old 02-28-2006 | 11:59 PM
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You guys in Jckson Tenn. not only look cold but from the pictures it look like you only have a small alley way between you and the tree line and then there appears to be a park around you but, still you have a pretty active flight line even on a cold day.
Old 03-01-2006 | 07:42 AM
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The pictures are deceptive. The active runway is 700' by 190'. I think we have plenty of room. The treeline follows a creek that makes an upside down V with the pointy part of the V directly across from the pilot station and about 1000' at the deepest part. We have an aerial photograph on the website. www.wtrcf.org

Now, all that being said, those trees have claimed their share of planes...[X(]

I've flown at just about every club and bootleg field in the area and can say without reservation the the Jackson club has the best facility. As far as being a park, nope. This is a dedicated RC airfield. No swingsets, basket ball, tennis court or walking/jogging paths. Just planes.

And yeah, it was cold, but a nice day. The crew you see in those pictures Jimmy linked to are the "die hard" flyers. That same group even flew off 3" of ice around Christmas 2004! THAT was a blast!

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Old 03-01-2006 | 09:38 PM
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Uh Oh,
Just moved down here from Nashville in September. (by the way, it was only 83 here today) I spent quite a bit of time in Jackson a couple of years ago. Did the roofs on the new National Guard Helicoptor Buildings (over by the airport) Might have bumped into you there. There was a convenience store close by and the owner has(had) a Nakijama 1/5 th scale hanging up in the store (of all things) it had USAAC markings, and the spinner was mashed flat. He said he scaled it from one they captured in the Aelutian Islands during the Big one. You may have seen it, if not you ought to. It's on the same road that the airport is on, (out close to Thompson machinery)
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Old 03-01-2006 | 11:11 PM
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Yep! Been there and it's still hanging from the ceiling. Just west of MKL on Hwy. 70. McKenzies BBQ. The place kind of looks (and smells) like an old bait shop but, they've got some good BBQ.

Our club gets to do "filler" entertainment during the Skyfest Air Show at the airport. It's a lot of fun hot dogging in front of all of those people.

The world keeps on getting smaller every day huh?!?

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Old 03-03-2006 | 12:43 PM
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Hey guys,

I am also thinking of buying one of these great looking cubs! I have a GP's ARF cub with a OS 52 FS and just love it, but the scale like appearance of the H9 PNP just blows it away. Like some people say, you can't have enough cubs in your hanger
I have a few questions for you guys. How easy is it to fuel/refuel the plane without a Dubro refueler or alike. With the issues of removing the cowl without cutting, it seems like a real pain in the rear. Is there any other issues or things to look out for other than inspecting the contents in the box to make sure there is no damage, or missing hardware.

Thanks,

Matt
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Matt,
When I got mine it was perfect. Everything looked great and nothing missing. I am able to remove my cowl with out cutting anything, but it is very tight. As you know if something fits that tight you will break or crack something sooner or latter so I just put a dubro fueler in it to avoid removing the cowl. I can not commit on it flying since I have not had it in the air as of yet.
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Hey guys,

I am also thinking of buying one of these great looking cubs! I have a GP's ARF cub with a OS 52 FS and just love it, but the scale like appearance of the H9 PNP just blows it away. Like some people say, you can't have enough cubs in your hanger
I have a few questions for you guys. How easy is it to fuel/refuel the plane without a Dubro refueler or alike. With the issues of removing the cowl without cutting, it seems like a real pain in the rear. Is there any other issues or things to look out for other than inspecting the contents in the box to make sure there is no damage, or missing hardware.

Thanks,

Matt
Matt --
Mine had a bunch of nuts, bolts screws strut ends etc missing . See my earlier posts. H9 supplied them all quickly and the thing went together in about 3 hours. Wouldn't have taken more than an hour, but I did a bunch of "extra" things for peace of mind -- CA'd all screw holes to harden, so took some time to back out already-installedscrews, and epoxied the horizontal stab in addition to bolting it on. I took off the cowl to check all the engine mounting bolts and screws. To get it off the first time I had to take out the needle valve. Then I split it on the bottom center up to the muffler opening to make it easier to get it on and off. Just put a couple more screws on the bottom. For refueling, I just hogged out the cowl a little bit so I could reach in and grab the pressure line with some hemostats. Barely noticable.
I sure will be glad when the weather eases so I can get out and fly it. As a long-time Cub pilot -- RC and full scale -- I can tell it's gonna be great.
Go ahead and get one. You'll love it!
Al
Old 03-03-2006 | 01:45 PM
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Matt, my cowl came off as well. You just have to hold your mouth just right and it comes right off. I would add a fueler or a fuel dot and a 3rd line into the tank (my preferred method). They've got the clearances too tight to get the fuel line off the engine, even with needle nose pliers, and that is a pain.

This plane is a real joy to fly. Mine just sort of "levitates" off the ground at about 2/5ths throttle. [8D] Each one of my landings were long because it just wanted to keep flying right down to a walking pace! Your OS 52FS would be "just right" for it. It's a little overpowered with the 46NT 2 stroke in my opinion. Cubs are slow and graceful and just don't look right zooming along real fast.

There was a GP clipped wing Cub (kit built) another of our members had out in the link Jimmy posted earlier that was powered by an OS 70 FS and was most definitely overpowered.

You'll love this one if you like the GP Cub.

Dave

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There was a GP clipped wing Cub (kit built) another of our members had out in the link Jimmy posted earlier that was powered by an OS 70 FS and was most definitely overpowered
Thanks guys for the replys! I hear yeah about the overpowered cub thing. I love the way my GP cub flys with the 52 FS very scale like and the sound to go along with it.
I am going to pick one up first thing next week when I get back into town.[8D]

enjoy the flying gentleman!

Matt
Old 03-03-2006 | 02:08 PM
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I just got the regular ARF version of the H9 cub yesterday. It looks great. I really haven't rifled thru the entire contents yet but that will happen tonight. The one thing I did check was the cowl. I wanted to see is they sent an uncut cowl or if it would come with the precut cowl the PNP comes with. I was happy to see that it was a virgin cowl with out the cutouts. I have a well used Saito 65 ready for it. How does the PNP balance? The Saito is going to be heavier than the two stroke 46.

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I just got the regular ARF version of the H9 cub yesterday. It looks great. I really haven't rifled thru the entire contents yet but that will happen tonight. The one thing I did check was the cowl. I wanted to see is they sent an uncut cowl or if it would come with the precut cowl the PNP comes with. I was happy to see that it was a virgin cowl with out the cutouts. I have a well used Saito 65 ready for it. How does the PNP balance? The Saito is going to be heavier than the two stroke 46.

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My H9 ARF Cub -- about the same airframe as the PNP, looks like. Same size, anyway -- balanced perfectly w/ a Saito 56 up front. Servos mounted in tray as supplied from the factory w/ the battery and receiver between the servos and the tank. As you'll recall, that one was issued in the early to mid 90s. Flew it many times and still have it in the shop. This PNP saves me from having to get it down and revive it! LOL.
You should be fine w/ the 65.
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Old 03-03-2006 | 02:58 PM
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I put a Futaba 127 Rx along with a 1650 NiMH 4 cell pack instead of the 600 that H9 sent just for more airtime between charges. Mine balanced per recommended with a 3 to 5 degrees nose down safety margin. I also used a Higley's prop nut and a wooden Master Airscrew 11-6 prop on it along with the Ernst charge jack (all of which is in front of the CG)

If you trust Horizon's figures, Evolution 46NT w/muffler: 16.96 oz. Saito 65 w/muffler: 19.6 oz. That's 2.64 oz. heavier but, I think you'll be fine even at that.

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That's great. Even if I have to move the batery back a little I'm sure it will work out. If anyone has installed a four stroke in one of these did you use the exisitng engine mounting angle? Or did you go completely inverted? I am looking forward to it. Any reports on the supplied landing gear?

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Awesome, my local hobby shop has the pnp version and I had them pull it off the shelf for me since I will not be able to pick it up until Monday. I guess I will also pick up a switch/charging jack and a refueling fitting. Any other tips or recommendations that you guys suggest?

Take care,

Matt
Old 03-03-2006 | 04:20 PM
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Matt: The only thing you need to watch for is the length on the bolts. I think Al found that there are a couple of different lengths of 'em and in a dish, they tend to look the same. Have fun with it!

Bassman: I've got a 2nd un-cut cowl and plan to mount a 4 stroke totally inverted just purely for looks. After flying it with the 46, I'm rethinking my power choices. Originally I planned on using a Saito 72, OS FS-70-S2 or Magnum FS70 depending on balance. The 72 is the closest to the 46NT's weight. The OS and Magnum are 20 and 21 oz. respectively. I also have an unemployed OS FS-52-S2 which should be a perfect match for power but, it's a lot lighter than any of the others. A black plastic Master Airscrew 12-6 prop will help but...

There is no reason you can't use the original mount and angle for a 4 stroke as long as it will fit in there. The OS 70 and Magnum 70 won't fit but, the Saito 72 and the OS 52 will fit it. I downloaded the ARF instructions from Horizon's site and it said the distance from the firewall to the prop hub is 4-1/2". That's gonna be tight on the 70's....

The supplied landing gear is a really nice one! No worries...

Decisions, decisions...

Dave
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Dave, you may have better luck with a Saito 72 than I will with the Saito 65. The 65 is actually larger than the 72. The firewall to prop hub lenght of the 72 is 4.095" while the 65 is 4.567" Do you really think a 52 four stroke will have the guts to fly this cub? If so I have a Magnum 61 or a 52 that I could use. It's good to know the landing gear works well. I just went thru the box and this has got to be the best ARF I've seen yet. THe assembled fuel tank, the precut radio foam and the overall construction look great. Any glue joint problems? If not then this is a real winner!

Bassman
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Scotty...I...Neeed...More...Power!!!!!

Geez, you guy's I was going to put a Saito 100 on my Cub, but now I think I will put one of my wore out Combat O.S 15, on it!!!

Just Jokin...Uh-Oh is the Cub Man!!!

Oh..Oh..I got to find a Budman Logo and do a little photoshop on it!!!!
Old 03-03-2006 | 07:00 PM
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Assuming the success of the PNP J3, and the comments certainly seem favorable which won`t hurt sales in the least, anybody care to speculate on a H9 PNP warbird in the not too distant future?
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I tried to read thru all the threads but I may have missed some...
Does anyone have a suggestion for a more scale appearing tailwheel?
Thanks!
JLK
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Bassman, don't give up on your 65 just yet... Remember that the Cub doesn't take a spinner, just a prop nut so, the shaft can stick out a little bit more and won't look that out of place. As far as the 52 FS flying it, I believe it will fly it well, just in a scale manner. You'll have to "fly the wing". You won't have any "oops" power!

If the crank case width is too much for the stock mount on your 65, I'd use one of the Great Planes adjustable mounts. 2 reasons for this. 1, versatility, you can use it with different configurations later in life and 2, it's lighter!

Glue joints are all good on mine. (that I can see) The wing locating pins at the rear of the wing were a little snug but, not uncomfortably so.

I don't see anything wrong with it that we haven't covered. That's kinda' rare these days...

Tide: A PNP warbird.... Hmmmmm..... Well, I'd bet cold hard cash that It'll be a P-51. Everybody, it seems, wants a Mustang. I'd personally like to see something different. Like a quality Bf 109 or FW 190. Maybe an Il-2 or Yak 3. A H9 quality Spit or Hurri would do as well. Just my opinion... [8D]

HOOTER:

"Scotty...I...Neeed...More...Power!!!!! "

MORE POWER!!! Aaaaaargh!

"Geez, you guy's I was going to put a Saito 100 on my Cub, but now I think I will put one of my wore out Combat O.S 15, on it!!! "

Between the 2, I'd have to choose the 100 as well.[X(]

"Just Jokin...Uh-Oh is the Cub Man!!! "

Yeah,,, right!

"Oh..Oh..I got to find a Budman Logo and do a little photoshop on it!!!! "

I'll take a copy of that! Make it a sticker and I'll put it on the plane! Great idea!!!!

So now we know, Jimmy's and overpowered Star Trek "Classic" fan that is familiar with the Budman.... He'd fit right in in my family! Wait, he is family,,,, Awww crud....

Dave

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