are u sure?

was just investigating 1.0 springs from the place we got the shoes. maybe worth another set of shoes while im at it...

am also asking around re gear ratios, that 43t spur is a bit tall i reckon... now thats gonna be a spanner in the works!

forget all that - the 11t works wonders on it... mind u its that alloy one thats so hard to get hold of here... gonna have to go for a single speed setup with the ofna 11/15t bell i think.

Might be worth having a look in the buggy forum to see what they are running.

yea, i posted in the truggy thread in the mt forum, they know their stuff, dunno if they care about a cen mt enough to reply tho.

that 11t really does make it fly tho! instant flippability! i did rescuff both the shoes and the bell tho, it is freaking the diffs out a bit as it squirms around looking for traction .

rounded the head of the 2 speed adjustment grub screw.... gotta get another 2 speed clutch - £10 is the best i have found on ebay so far, from an mt, so the spring might work ok. 2nd is gonna be very frightening i think... will have to wait for the 11/15 ofna/ho bao bell tho. maybe get a 12/16 too, see if it hooks up without flipping so easily. thats if the ofna pinions line up ok, or will they screw onto the cen bell with some mods...? we will see.

I reckon they will line up fine, I have noticed the similarities between the HPI clutch bell and the CEN one, thats why I immediately thought about single speed for my S25 CEN. Let me know how you get on, all these hurdles and snags are gonna make it nice and easy when I start my project!!! lol

yea - u lil bleeder! im doin all the graftin here!

the ofna 2 speed has the spurs well offset from each other tho, granted they are skinny spurs, so it looks worse... and i am unsure of the arrangement of the ofna 2 speed pinions - are they a single piece? both threaded? if so how much adjustment? will they fit the m12 thread on the cen bell? etc etc etc - but dont worry - i will find out for yer!

Consider yourself a pioneer!!

more like a crash test dummy!

just got in from a session with the truck. found 3 savages to play with...

the 11t pinion did its other trick of splitting and flying off after 30 secs running. looked for a m10 pinion in the spares and could only find a 15t, ah well what the hell, give it a go...

oh man, the clutch is a bit happier with a different bell and no plastic crap in there! a savage 3 speed has no hope at all against it, unsure of the engine he was running tho. one savage had the standard 21 in there, erm no, not a chance either. but there was a 2 speed that sounded meaty and held its own up to about 30mph, then i pulled away from it to about 40mph tops.

i had to set the tx throttle clicky trim thing to the neutral position as the brakes were getting weak, and ive run out of adjustment on the linkage... doh this meant that i only had up to 3/4 throttle! wheelies are most definately on command now!

now a bit later as the other guys packed up and loaded there cars, i suddenly had a runaway. no warning or anything, it just hit full throttle (ok 3/4) and off it went about 75 yards away, up a little ramp in the gravel, around 6 feet high and straight into a wooden advertising board, roof side first. dunno the speed, but the tyres were well ballooned and its the first time i have seen that happen with these. what happened to ur failsafe u cry? im asking the same question... the savage guys just drove off and left me to pick the bits up.

i am now a member of the Snapped Shock Tower and Dented Head Society... many other bits damaged, pipe is a write off etc, i dont wanna look any further for a day or 2... or 3... doh just looked, sand in the carb, and the filter came off, and yes the engine was running when it landed. shell was on tho...

think that pretty much wraps this thread up! i aint gonna be lookin at it for a while.

I have had one instance where mine has run away after a little knocking around and the failsafe did not stop it. Come to find out it jarred a battery loose (I have not switched to a hump pack yet) and effectively disabled my failsafe. The throttle just stuck open until the truck climbed the base of a tree and stopped. Luckily mine caused no damage.

Snapped shock tower was the JT one right? Man that is bad news. Hope the .28 is ok, sand in the carb isn't funny! Get in there and flush it through mate, no matter how much you want to say screw it, to leave it to rot now would be a real shame.

i know what u r saying... but i aint listenin now man!

lol, gutted or what...

it looks a right mess, but i think its not as bad as i first thought. diffs are ok, chassis looks pretty straight, front tower is bent a bit, cooling head got the worst of it, shell is erm, a basher shell for sure, shocks look ok - and hey - the driveshafts are ok!! suspect both tanks are dead tho - they went about 30 yards, curiously still joined together! pipe is a gonna too. but the big one is the motor... will rip it down and take a look one day. i can only see sand in the initial opening, shone a torch down the throat but cant see anything in there.

tell u what tho, running 3 savages and my lil beasty outside a pub gets a big crowd, well, 40-50 people, and hearin them say "look at that gold one go!" is a pretty satisfying feeling. hearing them go "AWWWWW!!! that looks expensive!!!" feels like ****

All in all it doesn't look to bad. If the engine is ok put the thing back together and have some more fun. The pipe doesn't even look as bad as you made it sound. You can put that in the freezer full of water and capped off and alot of the dents will come out.
You can also use the stock shock tower.

Try using a throttle return spring as well as a fail safe. It will kind of act as a backup to the fail safe.


rolland

Bad luck PJ....hey, add up all that money I can see under your car in the last pic, double it, and thats my offer!!

Dude, the engine will be fine if the crank case is undamaged. The pipe has just been given a bit of 'character' and as rolland says, the stock CEN tower is sitting there just waiting to be bolted on.
If you do need to replace the head, I'm sure good ol' ebay will come to the rescue.
May have to arrange a race against a real Savage though, one with a 'proper' engine in it!!!

i have had a bash at getting the pipe back as it should be, thats why it doesnt look too bad now, but there are a couple of splits in it around the outlet, that need a fix. will try the freezer technique, if i can plug the splits - thanks for that rolland. also - there is a throttle return spring, i still dont understand the runaway.

azzman - dont make me come over there!

as for the tower, the stock one wont work with my shocks, due to it being shorter, which is a bummer. the jt one is useable, but only for light running.

proper savage? ha! the weight difference was very obvious, just thru throttle response really. out wheelied and outrun by a cen... oh dear. bring on the "proper" savages!! lol.

gotta check that crankcase out...

If JT don't come through for you, I contacted these people a while back about getting some shock towers done as a one-off. I understand the JT ones barely accommodate the shocks, so they might be worth a quick call. http://www.highpath.co.uk/ The bloke I spoke to was extremely clued in to the best grades of ali for the job you want them to do and they aint that expensive either.

nice one scouser, could be the way to go. i will wait for jts reply first tho... and price...

Are throttle return spring's universal? I would like to install one on my MT2. What size of spring should I look for?

use whatever spring u can fit on the linkage that is strong enough to return an unpowered servo to its neutral position.

have a search for throttle linkage setups, most should have the return included.

Thanks. The MT2 comes without one. I will take it to the lhs and see what I can get. They don't carry CEN product but do have some generic parts.

What about modifiying the JT tower to bolt onto the CEN tower? That should give you the extra height that you need.
Try soldering up the splits and cracks in the pipe. If you use a high heat solder there should be no problem with leaks.


rolland

yea, i have run the towers bolted together to get the truck really low, but the shock bodies are that fat that they tend to rub the towers. i added more spacers to the top mount, but then it starts bending the long screws on small jumps...

i have done a little repair on the tower, with some south african handcuffs...i mean a really big zip tie... and it looks bloody brilliant! ahem... its a right bodge, but its holding my shock in the right place, and will be good enough for now.

and yep, i will be soldering the splits - they are each side of the stinger, nearly all around it, where it was welded in to begin with. its the side that points downwards, so it still looks fine on the truck at least!

had it in bits last night, various screws are stripped all over the truck from the crash, some got pulled out completely. one driveshaft is twisted thru 90 degrees, but still seems solid. only other thing is the rear outboard cvds, as they are plastic, the pins in them are starting to stretch their holes somewhat. the rears are second hand tho, and they have held up for a gallon or so thru both the .18 and the .28. maybe time to buy another pair - oh no! a whole £5 for driveshafts? lol - lovin it!

Good to see the beast is up and soon to be running again.
Quick question, when you were looking at the whole TMAXX axles thing, did you ever take a look at the PBS hubs from the HoBao buggy? I have a bit of a plan, if tjose things will screw into the CEN arms, it will allow the use of HPIs' new 'Nubz' wheels and tyres.

what shafts are u looking at for that?