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Old 12-30-2006 | 05:18 PM
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It's takes 2 extension wires to plug in from the seperate receiver to the 3-in-1. Channel THR goes in the upper slot in the 3-in-1, RUD into the lower slot.
You might have to plug-n-play with the cyclic servo channels.
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Old 12-31-2006 | 02:49 AM
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Hello all.
I just bought the Blade CP today. It is a very good looking heli I might point out.
I have no RC heli experience. I used to fly RC airplanes.
I have a question. Today, I got the Blade out of the box and did as the manual suggested, check to make sure all was working, align everything, and run the stock battery down to minimal levels. It did run out a bit earlier than I would have wished, but that's okay. I put it on the charger and waited an hour and a half, enough time to give me enough charge to finish aligning everything. Once I had finished that, I took the heli into the entry way of my house and decided to just give it a bit of juice to get it an inch off the ground (a little trim adjustment had to be made to keep the tail rotor from flying all over the place). All was going well but as I got the speed of the main rotor up, the heli started to move sideways. It did not change it's yaw (I believe that's the word....horizontal angle), it just slid sideways. I decided it might have to be the fact that it was on a wooden floor and the air currents were messing with it. I managed then to get it in the air for about three seconds and about a foot high. It still went sideways though. No, I didn't crash. I'm not brave enough to get it any higher yet. hehe. Anyways, does anyone have some suggestions?
I'd rather not spend the money on a simulation program and as for an isntructor, there aren't any flying fields within at least two hours of my house if I recall right.
Any suggestions on the sideways movement issue? Do I just need to get it outside?
Old 12-31-2006 | 08:23 AM
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Salt

Welcome, If it is sliding to the Left (standing behind the heli)
that is normal for these clockwise rotating birds. I would also
suggest using Radd's Flying School,I don't have the link, but
i.m sure somebody will post it for you. Below is a link for a good
set up and repairs. Yeah outside will give you more room, just
wait till theres hardly any wind. Just go slow in learning and
pick up some spare parts and battery. Good Luck and have Fun.
Let us know how it is going.

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_31...y_blade/tm.htm

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Old 01-01-2007 | 12:55 AM
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http://www.dream-models.com/eco/flying-index.html
Old 01-02-2007 | 11:59 PM
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Happy New Year ya'll. Been outa town and too lazy to turn on the laptop.

For those of you playing with your Rx's, Tall Paul's schematic is great. On another note, since I fly Futaba, I am able to use my 7C with the blade. One benefit is I used a blade Rx in one of my planks after the esc fried. So if anybody who likes JR etc. wants to send out their old Rx I'll be glad to take it off your hands.

As an update to the nitro side of life. We flew Sunday in 10-15 mph wind for nearly four hours. Only thing we crashed was my electric J-3, which I had repaired in about 15 minutes and flew again. Way too windy for even thinking about flying any heli's (still can't get the C30 to run, even though that probably would have been ok). I was flying my big trainer for a while but chickened out when it came to landing. Handed the Tx to my son-in-law and he brought it down.

Salt---try to put a little (no more than two clicks) right trim in and see if it improves, if it helps and doesn't overcorrect to the right, check your swash level. It is normal for it to pitch a little left when in ground effect so don't over adjust because when you get up over two feet it will move back to the right again. Also, hopefully you've checked out Radd's by now, it takes minute stick movement to fly a heli- unlike a plane. So take it easy.
Old 01-03-2007 | 12:06 AM
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Yes! Well my cp is totally fixed. Today i took it out for its first official outside test flight. Had bout a 7 or so mph wind. Not a biggie. So it flies very nice. Did a couple of loops and some rolls. It was a blast. Then i was going to test it again but it started to rain and rained till night time.
Old 01-03-2007 | 02:59 PM
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Zooland1


I know what you mean about landing lol. I
finally broke the Pro in yesterday. I planted
it pretty good. The usal stuff, a skid,spindle
and main shaft. Back together now tho. I have
to agree with you on the Pro's gyro, it seems
to be better than the gyro on my CP. The B.H.
makes it more responsive too. imo. Glad your
back and Happy New Year to you too.

Bob

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Old 01-03-2007 | 11:04 PM
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A pic of the creampuff. Just for fun.

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Old 01-04-2007 | 10:08 AM
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Any one Know how to remove the
bearings from broken Blade Grips ?

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Old 01-04-2007 | 11:12 AM
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Bob

I use my ball end allen driver that I use for blade changes (cant remember size...2mm?). Just insert about 1/8 inch into inner bearing and kinda cock it to the side so if you were to push harder you would pry the bearing out. Just dont pry on it. Work it around kinda in a circle while keeping the tension on the bearing and it will slowly rock the bearing out.

For the outer bearings you can now use something that is bigger than the inner races of the bearings but still small enough to fit past the grip inner casting (this is after the bearing spacer comes out). IIR a #1 phillips screwdriver works here. Insert the screwdriver or whatever (actually I use a piece of brass rod here...Less chance of damaging the bearing race.) and hold grip and screwdriver vertically and place screwdriver handle on a firm surface while holding grip and driver snuggly together. Now just tap on the grip from the outter end and the bearings should come out easily. If you have to beat the snot out of it something is wrong. They should come out fairly easily.

Hope this helps!
Old 01-04-2007 | 11:59 AM
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Tasci2

Thanks, I'll give that a try.

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Old 01-04-2007 | 12:09 PM
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Tasci2

Thanks for the Tip, worked great.
I salvaged $6 worth of bearings.

Bob

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Old 01-04-2007 | 03:14 PM
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Good Luck and have Fun.
Let us know how it is going.
Hey there. Salty here letting you know how it's going. I started today on those Radd's school lessons. Good looking stuff. I did notice something that looks like an issue with my heli. I failed to mention it because I thought it was just a blade balance issue. I now realize after looking closer, that it is not. I took the main blades off of the heli and ran it at a very low speed, just to check (stabilizers still installed). As it turns out, my main shaft appears to be bent. At the low speed, it seems to be off balance.
I have a video (2mb) of it at this url.
[link=http://www.wastedbandwidthonline.com/rdm/prb1.php]Blade cp issue[/link]
Yeah, I know...I hand coded an entire page just for that video. So what if I'm a geek? What you going to do about it? lol.
Anyways, let me know what you guys think.
Old 01-04-2007 | 04:45 PM
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Hey Salty

That Shaft is Toast, check the Spindle also.
If Money is No problem, Buy Several of Each.
Also, you'll need to check for this kinda stuff
after every Blade Strike. If you drop the part
alone it Bends lol. Glad your doing Radds, Stay
with it.

Bob

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Old 01-04-2007 | 08:48 PM
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This is my day for strange posts.

Salty, that gear/shaft is actually within the range of normal variation for a brand-new part. Incredible but true.
Here is how to tell if you can use it: look at the gear backlash all around the gear. If you can set the backlash so that the gear does not bind at any point and is not over 0.004 inch at the loosest point, and the _top_ of the shaft where the head mounts is running true, then go ahead and use it, at least until you crash and really bend it.
It looks to me like the pinion is making good contact almost all the way around, so if the backlash can be set within limits you should be fine.
Old 01-04-2007 | 09:07 PM
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Thanks fellas. I actually did take it back to the hobby store to have it checked out. They said it was bent and they would replace it. I got a new one and it works better. Not as bent as before, but still a tad bit of wobbling. All is well though. I also picked up some of those polycarbonite blades that I've heard are indestructable. We'll see how those work. Thanks for the help thus far guys.
Salty
Old 01-04-2007 | 09:11 PM
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How's the snow over there, Salty? We are having the weirdest weather, there has not been any snow at all this winter, it's shirtsleeve weather outside right now.
There should be 20 cm of snow here , drifts of 1 meter, this time of year, but it looks like Colorado got it all...I hope you and yours are safe and warm.
Old 01-05-2007 | 10:59 AM
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Dignlivn

Glad it worked for ya. I had to do it again last night too. [:@]
Old 01-05-2007 | 11:09 AM
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Salty

That poor casting in the gears is why I will soon be doing this mod from over on the BCPPro page...

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_45...0/key_/tm.htm#

Besides, a lil more blinginess never hurt... [8D]

Oops...look at post 477.
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How's the snow over there, Salty? We are having the weirdest weather, there has not been any snow at all this winter, it's shirtsleeve weather outside right now.
There should be 20 cm of snow here , drifts of 1 meter, this time of year, but it looks like Colorado got it all...I hope you and yours are safe and warm.
What's the big deal, hasn't snowed here for 10 years. But then that's why I moved here to begin with (used to live in Ohio, Indiana and Michigan). I gotta admit it's been extremely warm this year. Over 70 degrees today.
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ORIGINAL: Jellyson

How's the snow over there, Salty? We are having the weirdest weather, there has not been any snow at all this winter, it's shirtsleeve weather outside right now.
There should be 20 cm of snow here , drifts of 1 meter, this time of year, but it looks like Colorado got it all...I hope you and yours are safe and warm.
What's the big deal, hasn't snowed here for 10 years. But then that's why I moved here to begin with (used to live in Ohio, Indiana and Michigan). I gotta admit it's been extremely warm this year. Over 70 degrees today.
Thaaat's right, rub it in.....

The ski resorts are freaking out, they are actually having to manufacture "snow" so folks can go skiing in their shirtsleeves.

It's actually colder in San Antonio right now.
Old 01-07-2007 | 07:09 PM
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Well it is with great regret that i inform you all that my cp is finally destroyed. I was doing some inverted hovering and it started to fall. I tried as much as i could to save it but, it hit the pavement from about 50 ft up almost straight down. all that i could salvage was 2 servos, tail motor, and heatsinks. Im not going to rebuild it again since i just got it rebuilt last week. Just going ahead and getting a trex. Here is a pic from the crash. Not for the faint of heart lol http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r...s/DSC_0050.jpg
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My condolances...may it rest in peace. What in the heck were you doing flying inverted? Even if I ever get competent, I don't think I'll do that with a heli. I could fly my fixed wing all day long inverted. I might loop a heli or roll a heli but never inverted...it's not in the design.
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navihawk


Sorry about your bird, at least put it on
a shelf, as a reminder.

Bob


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Old 01-07-2007 | 08:16 PM
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My condolances...may it rest in peace. What in the heck were you doing flying inverted? Even if I ever get competent, I don't think I'll do that with a heli. I could fly my fixed wing all day long inverted. I might loop a heli or roll a heli but never inverted...it's not in the design.
The whole thing about collective pitch is the ability to fly inverted. Any CP heli can fly well inverted. Many pilots can't.


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