Ok...........Pulled the entire thing apart again............. reassembled and set up the rotor blades, swashplate flybar, everything! Double and triple checked it all, Tracked the blades again, and wow......It flew! I have no idea what caused the dang thing to just start working, but at least I know I have a working heli. so,I am back to:
Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee................... Blade CP!!


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Of all the things I ever lost.......................................... I miss my mind the most!

yea, i noticed that once ou get past the initial sweeping of the takeoff, the blade acts much better in flight.

STORYTIME!!! A night with my blade cx2


I was flying around outside last night with no wind. All of a sudden a gust! Luckily I was around 6-8 ft high and could catch it safely as the wind flopped my bird around like a ragdoll..LOL I thought wow that was fun, lets keep flying. A few minutes later another large gust grabbed it and again threw it to an imediates left rear movement. Fighting the sticks I got her under control with just a little effort and was flying pretty. I though to myself, hey I have gotten a lot better than I give myself credit for. Well I landed in front of me and grabbed a drink real quick then up I went again. As I noticed the pack getting weak I was coming in for a smooth landing. Just as I got about 12 inches from the ground here came another gust. I gave her some gas to lift her up and away from the concrete so I could catch the extreme tilt I was getting from the wind and when I realized I wasn’t gonna make it and I backed out of the throttle. I still had enough blade speed to snap not one but 3 blades off..LOL

I hated breaking blades because that ruined my record. I have been flying my cx2 since before new years and haven’t broken a blade from flying yet. I did break one putting it in the case one night though. Oh well it was bound to happen. Luckily I have 2 bags of uppers and lowers sitting on the shelf!!

I've got the sweep thing down real good and I can compensate to the degree of a nearly perfect vertical take-off every time. Well...I'll have a heli that flies today. Reason...wind is blowing 90mph and it's cold as a dogs hiney in Feburary...so I'll have one flying today. Couldn't happen when it was 40deg with no wind right? Arrow...I still think binding swash or the upper head. Might have had a burr floating around making things sticky and you managed to get it out of there and never seen it. Failing motors cause a lot of problems but lift if it has good RPM's is not one of them.

Well...you ruined my dream. I didn't think that the CX2's crashed and broke and that's why I was thinking of getting one. My fantasy is gone now...thanks!

well the little fall on the concrete wouldnt have broken anything had I chopped back out of the throttle at the first gust. It was me actually speeding the blades up and trying to figt it to prove my manhood that broke the blades..LOL

My CP-Pro got here today (supposed to have a bad 3-1 and I got it for $138). It looked BRAND NEW. So I immediately changed out the 3-1 (didn't even check it). Fired it up...it ran. Powered it down and then powered it up again...red/green flashing LED so I grabbed the book. Check crystals it says. So I grabbed the crystals off my CP...works again. Spent 1/2 hour trimming the links and proportional and gain. Got it tuned in...tracked the blades...flew it with NO problems! Like I've been flying it all my life. I put the crystals off the pro into my CP outfit...red/green flashing LED...bad crystals verified on my CP. The 3-1 might not even be bad...might have been the crystals. I said it before...the 3-1 and 4-1's just don't go bad that easily...everything else does. It flies a little different than the stock CP but that's to be expected. I got the CP Pro set Where it will hover "hands off" for a bit, and I fly it with the right stick only. It's AWSOME. Now I gotta order a new set of crystals so bothe the CP and the CPP are flyable.

dude that awesome!! I cant wait to get my cp now! It will be here monday according to the tracking information. Just curious why didnt you just upgrade your cp to a cpp?

I was going to thats why I had a 3-1 in the parts drawer brand new. But considering the RX/3-1/Hiller/TX...it was cheaper just to snag one off E-Bay for less than $150.00. What's the bonus you ask...I've got a fully operational BCP AND BCPP (as soon as I get another crystal set and the servo gets here). It appears that I've become a master at setting these things up. I looked at the TX settings, and I looked at the head...I knew what adjustments to make and where. Made the adjustments and put it up...hovered nearly hands off. I don't think that was dumb luck because it's set exactly like my CP, and flies almost the same.

LOL............... read the entire thread venom, crash just about has a CP Pro built out of his CP. With his extra 3 in 1......... and a new crystal set, he will basically have 2 CP Pro's......... congrats on the Pro arriving crash, Does it really fly that much smoother than the stock CP? You got me wondering now.
Still waiting on parts from 3 different places. I am thinking they will arrive today. Just got off the phone with the LHS about matching the Trex/DX6 deal, they can't match it. So will probably order that setup from Helihobby next month.
Its the low end trex, but will give me a chance to slowly upgrade, and eventually have a decent setup with some good spare parts just in case.

http://helihobby.com/html/trex_helic...em+and+Go+Back

Its about 3/4 down the page called the Spektrum Package

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well thats what I was thinking.I knew he didnt have a stock cp so I was wondering ifhe was so close would be be more cost effective to just continue upgrading the cp.

I would much rather have more helis than just one upgraded one myself too. Like I said I was curious what other reasons would he have not continued the upgrade. I was hoping he wasnt going to say something about "no matter what you do to a cp it wont be as stable as a cpp or yadda yadda..." I was hoping there wasnt a negative reason not to upgrade, so he answered exactly like I wanted him to.

My CP still has the 4-1 but has 370-9T, heat sinks, Li-Po's, and Bell-Hiller. It's only missing the TX/RX/3-1 from being a Pro. Since I can't go outside...pretty limited on testing the Pro outside. As far as indoor hovering goes, my CP and the Pro hover about equal in stability (almost hands off). Stands to reason...I set them both up so they will fly the same. I haven't tried the idle-up on the Pro yet...that will wait for outside. Personally...the difference is the Bell-Hiller upgrade. It just makes things more responsive and it seemed to improve stability a bit. So I have an extensively modified Blade CP, and a CP-Pro. My CP flies a lot better than a stock CP because it's nearly a CP-Pro anyway. Wheeeeeeeeeeeeee! CP-Pro!

REPORT # 1
RICK here, remember the 70yearold phartt ?
I am here to say THANKS to all of you in this FORUM, you have been a wonderful , useful, etc source of good and valid information to help me get started in these small HELIS...!!! THXX
As I show you in the pic... my fleet of 3 is here. Today, after mouth surgery I came home from work and with some time on my hands, opened the CX-2 box and set to it. I don't know how much credit I should give myself : BUT I was able to operate the CX2 for the duration of the factory charged battery with ABSOLUTE perfection, once the trims were dialed in _ VERY small corrections necessary, the heli took flight. In a matter of seconds, I think all my SIM experience must have kicked in because I TOTALLY CONTROLLED the Blade..... Parked it at
3ft. then rotated a full 360degrees. then went the opposite direction only this time stopping at each 90degree quarter....went forward, backwards, left and right. Climbed to 5 feet ( I am 6'1") lowered again down to 6"..... the ONLY thing I need to do is REMOVE THE RATCHET on the throttle control..... just one click over and the CX2 shot up one foot in the air !.....
I will continue to practice w/CX-2 but will begin applying ALL YOUR SUGGESTIONS AND TIPS for the CP, my next project......
I thank CRASHCRASH and DAVE for their input, also LOOKYJ .... hey ! can you teach me how to UPLOAD VIDEO ? RCUniverse has no primer.....how do I make an UPLOADABLE FILE from a video tape ? that is where I get stuck.
SO : here is my picture today, after the very first FLIGHT..... AWESOME
ps maybe I am overrating myself, huh ???
RICK

Congratulations you old dog (I'm very fond of dogs...ask my 62# LAB/Pitt)! Very impressive indeed. Wish I could do as well.

Sweet Barrrick............ The cx2 is a very stable heli. I have one also, am waiting on the stersman CF tail boom and superskids. You will enjoy that one as a good get to know your helis responses trainer, then on to a whole new world. The one caution I have to you is when moving on to your blade CP or Pro, very small stick movements as they are both way more responsive than the CX2 is. I moved the servo arms out to the second hole on the CX2 and after i get used to the new tail and skids, will move up to the 3rd hole out. Then my stick movements should be close to the same as flying my Blade CP. I am so glad you got such a awesome first experience, that makes it all flow a little better. As choppersrule says........slow and easy, and you will do fine!
Glad you have the 2 heli's to compare crash, you will be the resident expert on nuances between the 2! I took mine outside today, and crashed it. Not a hard landing, but i got SERIOUS wobble in the upper rotor head now. Bent spindle most likely, it still flew, but didn't smooth out until in the air. Back to square one....lol


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Barrick/Rick,

Congrats on your first successful flight in the heli world. Sounds like you already have a pretty good handle on the critter.

TIP: On any lipo battery, never run it all the way down, if heli won't climb, set 'er down and recharge battery. Be on the safe side.
If run down to much, they will never again accept a charge. Take if from a younger ppphart (61), I messed up two batteriers in the last year on learned my lesson, a $$$$ mistake. Get a spare for more flight time.

I had to lol, when I saw your picture of the CX2 in the box, I do the same thing. Here's my CX2 box, plus a couple extras.
The picture of the CX2, with the broken blade, you'll notice I have the inner shaft with aluminum head. Like it alot.

Also, here's a link for upgrades for the CX2: http://secure.hobbyzone.com/catalog/..._cx2_optional/

Any questions, it's best to PM me, I just don't have the time, always to check all the posts.

Dave / Choppersrule

Spuratic,

Been busy, haven't had alot of time for posting. Cost wise, the DX6 is a good choice, when you decide to get it, go through the manual front to back, and while doing that, have the TX with you and play with all the menu screens and buttons. I was worried too, however, we were all a little nervous when we first got into the heli world and our first flight. It's just another leaning experience and another challenge.

As I mentioned to Barrick, just PM me, I'm just to busy with work and all that good stuff to reply to all post.

Dave / Choppersrule

ArrowNaughtic,
LOL, almost ROTF. I see you're about to get the "Spectrum Package", that's exactly what I did last Oct. or so. The big however, is that your getting a much better deal. Your getting the Trex 450XL CDE package.. Mine was the Sprectrum Package with a Trex 450X CDE(second one down in the site) at the time. Came with everything.

Great heli, you won't be disappointed, keep us updated on that on.

Dave / Choppersrule

Crashcrash,

Kyosho, naa we won't kill ya, hmmmm, naaa. You didn't mention which model of the Kyosho you were looking at. If it's the Caliber 400, here's a site for $269. http://www.hobbytron.com/RCHelicopte...KYO20401B.html

Don't know what kind of research you have done, but, always check price of spare parts and availablity.

I'm kind of an impulse buyer, as you know, I've had alot of different helis. The two big mistakes I made were the Falcon 3D and the Raptor G2 (AKA Walkera). I don't regret it, it's all a leaning experience and I love the heli. Can't get enough of 'em. Just don't always have the time.

Take care Crash, hope the hand is doing okay,

Dave / Choppersrule
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crash,

your CP and CPPro feel the same?

I've found the stock CP and the stock CP Pro to be very different birds.

From my experience the CP is easier to control, with slower head speed (370 main with 8 tooth pinion and 9.6v 650 mAh NiMh battery, and CCPM control w/ flat woodies), a noob pilot is less likely to over correct when flying. Compared to the CP Pro which seems to have much faster response (370 main and 9 tooth pinion with 11.1v 800 mAh 3 cell LiPo, and Bell Hiller mixing w/symmetrical woodies).

I also noticed on the CP the tail seems more locked in compared to the CP Pro. I think the stock n30 tail motor handles better with the lower head speed of the CP, when bumped up to the CP Pro gear the little n30 seems to have trouble keeping up.

Yes, I'm still in search of the perfect Blade CP....

I currently have 5 Blade CP/Pro's.... (thanks to ebay)

I'm keeping one CP stock and one CP Pro stock. The others I'm using to test the various mod's and upgrades.

I'll keep you all posted on my thoughts and experiences!

I'm in the process of going brushless on one of my birds (thanks for the email and all the great info, dave!)

here's a list of parts w/#'s for the upgrade (from a CP Pro)

EFLA228 - JST Female/2 JST Male Parallel Y-Harness
EFLA311B - 20 Amp Brushlesss ESC
EFLM1000 - Park 370 Brushless Inrunner Motor, 4100Kv
EFLM1912 - Heat Sink (20x20mm)
EFLM1949 - Pinion Gear, 8T 0.5 Module 2mm ID
EFLRYH3 - 3" Y-Harness

All this is found in the Blade CP Pro Manual pgs 48 - 56 along with step by step instructions. If you don't have a copy of the manual you can download here..

http://www.e-fliterc.com/Products/Su...rodID=EFLH1300

Rick,

sounds like we have the same fleet...

CX2
CP
CP Pro

I definately recommend boomtown hobbies superskids and CF tail boom mod. I also went all aluminum from microHeli. It's amazing how much more control the heli has now.

As far as uploading videos. what internet browser are you using? RCUVideos.com works best with Internet Explorer. Also be aware of the format and size of the video (avi, wmv, mov). I've been having to compress the video and convert to .mov file.

Also make sure you have a good connection speed. Hope this helps.

OldPHARTT, again !
Thanks for all the encouraging words. I am not sure too much praise is due since the CX-2 seemed to me to be EXCESSIVELY EASY. In fact, I read the Manual carefully, executed every recommended move , lit it up and flew.... I am guessing it's the same for everybody...( wrong? )
As mentioned, I plan to follow along the BLADE PATH towards learning to fly....
Here is a pic of my FLEET, together with what is the other 50% of what I enjoy in this life (music)
Some of the necessary tools are beginning to come in. UPS just delivered a box. The scale ( to .01 gram) got here too. I ordered 2 additional LIPOS to give myself ample practice time uninterrupted. The CP already has its 3 batts.
OnWARD, through the FOG ! right ?
Thanks all, OMT
PLEASE help me (somebody) to figure out HOW TO UPLOAD VIDEOS.....so I can SHARE my flights with y'all
[ b.t.w. since we be frenns now : I am Richard Barr - )

Mr. Barr,

You've got a wonderful looking fleet started. Just wait... another year and you'll have more, I guarantee it. I had seven at one time.
But the maintenance and parts become a headache, so don't OVERDO it. Buy one, sell one as you grow.

You'll love your new scale and additional lipos.

Off Topic:

Love the piano, always have, but my fingers are way to short, my daughter plays the like a dream, can listen to hear play all day.

Friends, indeed, we all have so much in common.. I'm Dave Kupkee (German), Greenwood, Indiana. 12 miles south of Indianapolis.

Keep 'er in the air,

Dave / Choppersrule

I wish my CX2 was so nice right out of the box. I hope once I get it back together it is more manageable. Some of the parts came today and hopefully the rest will come tomorrow along with my CPP.

Tom

Jeese...I hate crashing. Check your tail boom to see if you had a strike. Spindle may be bent downwards from the hard landing...you can fix that. I got the crystals on order as well as a fresh spindle and main rotor shaft for the CP. The servo should be here tomorrow and I'll get the CP back in the air and down the Pro for crystals. I'm not really interested in flying the Pro...I'm sticking with the CP till I get good at it. Thinking about buying my son a CX2 because it will be easier to learn and hopefully less expensive parts wise if he does have a mishap. He's 26...just married 1 year, and just bought his first home, so he can't afford the drain that learning a CP will cost. Maybe the CX2 will be more forgiving.