DL-50 engine
07-19-2009 | 04:13 PM
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Yea, My peak edge is well built and fly,s great w/dl 50 pics of both mentioned planes in my gallery,i would buy another peak also,the ultimate they have is simalar to nitro planes.
07-19-2009 | 06:43 PM
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DOES ANY ONE HAS EVER BOUGHT ANY 50 CCAIRPLANES FRON NITRO AIRPLANESMJUST WONDERING ABOUT QUALITY,AND IF WORTH IT BUYING.
THANS
DOES ANY ONE HAS EVER BOUGHT ANY 50 CCAIRPLANES FRON NITRO AIRPLANESMJUST WONDERING ABOUT QUALITY,AND IF WORTH IT BUYING.
THANS
07-19-2009 | 07:55 PM
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Jim,
I'm going to risk breaking from topic for a moment regarding some of the less prominent distributors and those shopping them. This is not directed at Nitro Models in particular, but at tiered market pricing in general.
There are quite a few people that have yet to own a G.S. gasser. They spend a lot of time perusing threads like this one while shopping price to find their way into this side of the hobby. The entry cost for many can be viewed as quite high, especially if they are opening the door with little previous experience or are limited in the amount of equipment they already own. Since they haven't owned or flown a gas giant they don't yet understand the nuances that are associated with model cost. For them the listed sizes, weights, and prices carry the day. Later, after they've owned one of the super budget planes, and have flown a better model belonging to a friend or field associate, they learn that the difference between the two planes was far more than just a higher price. Unfortunately, many times their requests for quality assurance about a product comes from people that may only have experience limited to that particular item, or from the same source. That severly limits the objectivity of the person providing answers.
Nitro makes some pretty good stuff, as do some of the other lessor known distributors, but you have to know what you are looking for going in. It's not all about price. Sometimes it's understanding that one distributor may be marketing the seconds from another manufacturer/distributor. Sometimes a distributor is handling products from a new start up company without a track record or assurance of company continuation. Perhaps there will be no after purchase support with another company. So those looking at the lowest priced item should take a little time in research to obtain the most information possible to make a well informed purchase decision.
Nitro is one that has strong potential, but they don't yet quite measure up to some of the other companies in several ways. However, that difference is reflected in the lower pricing. Good deals are nice to find, but be sure it's a real "deal" before making the purchase decisions. That applies to all the equipment used in our hobby.
I'm going to risk breaking from topic for a moment regarding some of the less prominent distributors and those shopping them. This is not directed at Nitro Models in particular, but at tiered market pricing in general.
There are quite a few people that have yet to own a G.S. gasser. They spend a lot of time perusing threads like this one while shopping price to find their way into this side of the hobby. The entry cost for many can be viewed as quite high, especially if they are opening the door with little previous experience or are limited in the amount of equipment they already own. Since they haven't owned or flown a gas giant they don't yet understand the nuances that are associated with model cost. For them the listed sizes, weights, and prices carry the day. Later, after they've owned one of the super budget planes, and have flown a better model belonging to a friend or field associate, they learn that the difference between the two planes was far more than just a higher price. Unfortunately, many times their requests for quality assurance about a product comes from people that may only have experience limited to that particular item, or from the same source. That severly limits the objectivity of the person providing answers.
Nitro makes some pretty good stuff, as do some of the other lessor known distributors, but you have to know what you are looking for going in. It's not all about price. Sometimes it's understanding that one distributor may be marketing the seconds from another manufacturer/distributor. Sometimes a distributor is handling products from a new start up company without a track record or assurance of company continuation. Perhaps there will be no after purchase support with another company. So those looking at the lowest priced item should take a little time in research to obtain the most information possible to make a well informed purchase decision.
Nitro is one that has strong potential, but they don't yet quite measure up to some of the other companies in several ways. However, that difference is reflected in the lower pricing. Good deals are nice to find, but be sure it's a real "deal" before making the purchase decisions. That applies to all the equipment used in our hobby.
07-20-2009 | 09:07 AM
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I've been flying my 2 year old DL50 with the original plug. Pulled it to put in a brand new CM6 - at least the box said it was. Had a dead stick on 3rd flight, the first dead stick ever with the DL. Landed and got it restarted. It ran really rough and would not throttle up w/o dying.
Went home, took carb out and cleaned it w/carb cleaner. Put carb back on and it did about the same thing. Pulled plug, put orig. plug back in. Tuned it a little and everything was back to normal. Looked at what I thought was a CM6, it was not. Someone must have stuffed a no name plug in a CM6 box that I ended up buying.
Go figure.
Went home, took carb out and cleaned it w/carb cleaner. Put carb back on and it did about the same thing. Pulled plug, put orig. plug back in. Tuned it a little and everything was back to normal. Looked at what I thought was a CM6, it was not. Someone must have stuffed a no name plug in a CM6 box that I ended up buying.
Go figure.
07-20-2009 | 10:50 AM
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I have three 50cc engines and one day I whent and chaged all the plugs to CM 6 two of the engines performance was great but the third one would not run well pulled the plug out and found that the gap was way off regap the plug and all is well,
07-20-2009 | 12:27 PM
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ORIGINAL: Tired Old Man
Jim,
I'm going to risk breaking from topic for a moment regarding some of the less prominent distributors and those shopping them. This is not directed at Nitro Models in particular, but at tiered market pricing in general.
There are quite a few people that have yet to own a G.S. gasser. They spend a lot of time perusing threads like this one while shopping price to find their way into this side of the hobby. The entry cost for many can be viewed as quite high, especially if they are opening the door with little previous experience or are limited in the amount of equipment they already own. Since they haven't owned or flown a gas giant they don't yet understand the nuances that are associated with model cost. For them the listed sizes, weights, and prices carry the day. Later, after they've owned one of the super budget planes, and have flown a better model belonging to a friend or field associate, they learn that the difference between the two planes was far more than just a higher price. Unfortunately, many times their requests for quality assurance about a product comes from people that may only have experience limited to that particular item, or from the same source. That severly limits the objectivity of the person providing answers.
Nitro makes some pretty good stuff, as do some of the other lessor known distributors, but you have to know what you are looking for going in. It's not all about price. Sometimes it's understanding that one distributor may be marketing the seconds from another manufacturer/distributor. Sometimes a distributor is handling products from a new start up company without a track record or assurance of company continuation. Perhaps there will be no after purchase support with another company. So those looking at the lowest priced item should take a little time in research to obtain the most information possible to make a well informed purchase decision.
Nitro is one that has strong potential, but they don't yet quite measure up to some of the other companies in several ways. However, that difference is reflected in the lower pricing. Good deals are nice to find, but be sure it's a real ''deal'' before making the purchase decisions. That applies to all the equipment used in our hobby.
Jim,
I'm going to risk breaking from topic for a moment regarding some of the less prominent distributors and those shopping them. This is not directed at Nitro Models in particular, but at tiered market pricing in general.
There are quite a few people that have yet to own a G.S. gasser. They spend a lot of time perusing threads like this one while shopping price to find their way into this side of the hobby. The entry cost for many can be viewed as quite high, especially if they are opening the door with little previous experience or are limited in the amount of equipment they already own. Since they haven't owned or flown a gas giant they don't yet understand the nuances that are associated with model cost. For them the listed sizes, weights, and prices carry the day. Later, after they've owned one of the super budget planes, and have flown a better model belonging to a friend or field associate, they learn that the difference between the two planes was far more than just a higher price. Unfortunately, many times their requests for quality assurance about a product comes from people that may only have experience limited to that particular item, or from the same source. That severly limits the objectivity of the person providing answers.
Nitro makes some pretty good stuff, as do some of the other lessor known distributors, but you have to know what you are looking for going in. It's not all about price. Sometimes it's understanding that one distributor may be marketing the seconds from another manufacturer/distributor. Sometimes a distributor is handling products from a new start up company without a track record or assurance of company continuation. Perhaps there will be no after purchase support with another company. So those looking at the lowest priced item should take a little time in research to obtain the most information possible to make a well informed purchase decision.
Nitro is one that has strong potential, but they don't yet quite measure up to some of the other companies in several ways. However, that difference is reflected in the lower pricing. Good deals are nice to find, but be sure it's a real ''deal'' before making the purchase decisions. That applies to all the equipment used in our hobby.
I have owned several planes from Nitro... The first was an Extra 330 and while it flew very good it wasn't quite what was advertised as far as it's 3D abilities went. Again, well built model and good flying model just not the best for 3D, more of a sport flyer. My nephew was flying an AeroWorks Extra at the time (still is LOL) with a DA50 on it and after flying that plane I bought one. Best flyin plane I have ever owned period. (Don't have enough money and time to do a Carden but I understand they are like the Rolls Royce of models.) The fit and finish and overall quality was much better on the AW than my cheaper plane from Nitro and I will say without reservation it was worth the extra money. Heck the AW even had quality SAE hardware thrown in instead of the cheap low grade metric junk. I have flown other models at my field sold by Nitro that were much better at 3D than my original plane. As T.O.M. said, if you know which ones to buy, you can get a good deal but the idea of having to buy and fly several before finding the right one means I'll have to see and fly someone else's before I'll go that route again. I've also purchased the smaller 60 size version of the Extra 260 from AeroWorks and love it too. The video on the Extra 260 60-90 AeroWorks web page is my nephew Wyatt flying my little Extra.
Love them AeroWorks planes, good stuff and great customer support.
07-20-2009 | 01:13 PM
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T.O.M, very well stated! I didn't mean to be hard on Nitro planes, I just hate to see people get their hopes up on a plane, spend the money on it and be dissapointed in the end. We're all guilty of taking the cheap route, sometimes it works and some times it doesn't.
It usually ends up costing more if you have to buy twice.
It usually ends up costing more if you have to buy twice.
07-20-2009 | 03:14 PM
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SOLO, only buy the best ARF's out there. It's a total waste of your time and money to buy the budget stuff.
SOLO, only buy the best ARF's out there. It's a total waste of your time and money to buy the budget stuff.
Alot of it has to do with what a person is going to do with the plane, If there going to fly IMAC or a sport flyer they can stand the extra weight, they want to 3-D then you want a lighter version I agree with what TOM said check out what your wanting and possiblely fly one or at least watch one fly then make a decision. I seen the best crash right along side of the cheap ones and they come apart just as well to make toothpicks, just more expensive ones.
And just because its the most expensive dosen't always means its the best. The DL 50 has proved that point I believe.
07-20-2009 | 07:47 PM
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Their initial production run is very large, 2000 engines. expected release date was around the end of July but it looks like it may go into the first week of August. They are working feverishly getting them ready, I expect it will be worth having a little patience.
07-20-2009 | 08:23 PM
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about time somebody makes one that size i have been waiting a long time to see an engine that size
about time somebody makes one that size i have been waiting a long time to see an engine that size
Yup Yup, 30 size and 36, Would be nice,
07-20-2009 | 08:31 PM
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now we have to wait and see what goes wrong with the so that all of the updates can be done but with the dl50 you would think that the learning curve wont be as steep with updates
07-20-2009 | 10:11 PM
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I had the same thing with the plug last week. I went from the org. plug to the NGK cm-6 and had the gap at .020.
The plane ran good but it kicked my butt to start it. It was hard to start and i would flood it if i didn`t get it on the first 6 turns while hot. I may try another plug and gap it a tight .018 or .019? Or just put the org. plug back in.
The plane ran good but it kicked my butt to start it. It was hard to start and i would flood it if i didn`t get it on the first 6 turns while hot. I may try another plug and gap it a tight .018 or .019? Or just put the org. plug back in.
07-21-2009 | 12:13 PM
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From: Friendswood,
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The no-name plug that I took out did not have the same stacking heights as the CM6, or the orig plug. After only 2 flights, its center electrode was highly corroded.
07-23-2009 | 07:28 AM
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Valve Floater; I just received my DL55 to put in my Giant Sun Dancer. (What a great bipe). I've got a couple of questions for you if you don't mind. According to the manual the prop hub to firewall distance is 7-1/8" which means I'll need to ad about a 1/2" ply plate to the firewall, I haven't even mounted the stand=offs or the engine yet, but I was curious about the stock muffler interfering with the cowl. It looks like where the cowl mounts to the fuse it's the same width as the fuse but almost immediately forward of that it flairs out quite a bit. Were you able to use the stock muffler on your install without having to cut the cowl? The other question is to get your CG close to specs., where did you mount your flight & ignition sys. batteries? I'm planning on installing the ignition module on the backside of the firewall so I can access it through the hatch. Any info most appreciated. Thanks in advance......Mike
08-01-2009 | 08:55 AM
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That is a very heated debate. I have an old DL-50 also. I chose not to use the extruded mounts. I've heard of them failing and I chose not to run the risk. But others have had good luck with them. I say buy some good standoffs. And trash the extruded mounts.
