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Old 11-07-2009 | 09:02 PM
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Old 11-08-2009 | 09:59 AM
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Well I got the engine purring pretty good so I am now re-doing some things on the G202. New 2.4 radio system, painted inside of canopy...and more. She is getting close to Flying...I hope! Capt,n
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Old 11-08-2009 | 11:59 AM
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Just got my Yak 54 from Peakmodel in so now I can get started putting the engine on . Boy it only took 45 day to get here. Nice looking plane.
Old 11-08-2009 | 02:37 PM
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Should have waited and got something similar from Valley View or a Wild Hare Edge or 260....
Old 11-08-2009 | 03:09 PM
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Should have waited and got something similar from Valley View or a Wild Hare Edge or 260....
Why is that? Peakmodel makes decent planes for the money. To each its own. It's a bit sad to demonize someone's purchase. According to your philosophy this DLE30 thread is obsolete because we all have to buy 3W engines.
Old 11-08-2009 | 04:44 PM
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Why is that? Peakmodel makes decent planes for the money. To each its own.
Peakmodel don't make planes. Their planes are made by Flight-model in China and drop-shipped to Peakmodel customers.
They have recently relocated factories so there will have been a gap in their production - thus probably the 45 day delays.

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Old 11-08-2009 | 07:02 PM
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The Valley view website has added more goodies. Keep up the good work! Capt,n http://www.valleyviewrc.com/index.html
Old 11-08-2009 | 08:52 PM
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I got 5 flights in today on my H9 Taylorcraft and the DLE 30. The engine still had the dieing issue once I got it back from Ralph so I was tired of waiting and it was going to be a good day as far as the weather so up it went. I first taxied around and let it bounce around to see if it would die and it seemed ok. I lined her up with the runway and poored the coal to her and off she went. After a few laps the engine died but that was due to over heating. To much air coming in the front of the cowl and not enough going out. So after tapping up the front of the cowl and another dead stick from over heating I finally had it licked. The DLE 30 performed well and has a ton of power. I was looking for it to die once I touched down but it stayed running and seem to be ok.
Old 11-08-2009 | 11:48 PM
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Zippi, that sure is good news. I cannot wait to fly my G202 with a DLE30 in it. I do not think it is going to lack any power. I seen a H9 Taylorcraft at a fly-in here in Michigan. It sure looked good! I am glad everything went good on the landings. Best regards Capt,n P.S. Nice warm weather too!
Old 11-09-2009 | 10:54 AM
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According to your philosophy this DLE30 thread is obsolete because we all have to buy 3W engines.
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I see you fell a little short in comprehending what I was trying to say about engine and customer comparisons.
Old 11-09-2009 | 06:50 PM
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Well nnot much happening, so I will post a photo of my one of a kind DLE30 prop drilling jig! Capt,n
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Old 11-09-2009 | 07:15 PM
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I was reading about the DLE fix and adding shims and loosing rpm's and that is not what I'm looking to do. I bought this engine because of it size and power. I'm going to leave my engine the way it is and deal with it. As long as it runs the way it did this past Sunday I'll be satisfied.
Old 11-09-2009 | 07:37 PM
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Zippi,
So exactly what did Ralph do to your engine to resolve the problems?

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Old 11-10-2009 | 02:28 AM
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Old 11-10-2009 | 06:04 AM
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Old 11-10-2009 | 07:11 AM
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Zippi,
So exactly what did Ralph do to your engine to resolve the problems?

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Ken Cz,

That I can't tell you. I see nothing on the outside of the engine that has been added and I didn't take it apart to take a look. Whatever he did it did not work because I still have the same issue. I do remember Ralph talking on the forums about cleaning up the inside of the case around the reed valve and grinding out a passage for the pooling fuel so it could run back into the case. The engine seems to do ok and there is a noticable rpm change in the air when banking at low rpms and I'm still not comfortable with this engine down on the deck. If weather holds out I'm going to fly it again this weekend.
Old 11-10-2009 | 07:45 AM
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I am curious as to what is happening to the DLE30 to make it lose rpm or quick on a tilt. I have a ZDZ40 in an RCGuys Super Decathalon and for the life of me, I can not get it to roll without killing the motor. loops are no problem. tilting back and forth are okay, just don't go into a roll as it will quit on the top. Of course, going inverted will cause the problem.

I've checked, the guys I fly with have suggested, everything we can think of. Someone suggested an issue with a loose connection inside the ignition box. Or perhaps the weight of the fuel cutoff valve is being a culprit as it may be pushed by the cintrifugal forces?

Just thought I'd pass along an experience with other than the DLE30.
Old 11-10-2009 | 09:15 AM
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hello,
i am new here and this is my first post.
i read your post regarding if anyone has had anything to do with this seller, rcfans 88 on ebay for the dle30 for US$280 free shipping.
well i did buy this motor from them. usually i don't do this but i am %10000000000 unhappy with the help i got from them when i told them the engine wouldn't run properly, the plug they supplied was no good from the box and it does stall when tilted. yes all those 0's were intentional.

please do not buy from this supplier if you have any hope of support/warranty.
i emailed this person over 3 days ago now and still no reply. i since got the engine to run properly with new plug etc but not happy about the service. i wish i had bought froma local supplier.
just my 2 cents you might benefit from.
hope it helps,
Old 11-10-2009 | 09:51 AM
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That's to be expected if you purchase from a Chinese supplier. All you can look at is if they sell genuine DL engines. Any problems you have to take care of yourself by either fixing the engine yourself or have it fixed by a local repair center.
Old 11-10-2009 | 01:26 PM
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Well after reading all about the tilt issue I just HAD to try to get my engine to quit. I haven't fired it up for a month now so I had to cover the carb opening with my thumb, but after that the engine started right up. I found that after it was warmed up and idling for awhile I could pick the plane up, tilt it so the carb pointed straight up, and all angles in between, and it would keep running. BUT, if I held it so the carb was straight up, and then quickly returned the plane to level (carb at 90 degrees) THEN the engine would quit. I'm not sure if I would be in a situation in the air that would duplicate that - I'm sure it's possible. But after a dozen or so flights and a half gallon of fuel it has not quit on me while flying. I will be watching the thread to see what the "fix" is going to be.
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Old 11-10-2009 | 03:08 PM
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Well I am setting this Bird up and hope she flys good....I think it will if the engine keeps ticken! Capt,n
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Old 11-10-2009 | 03:10 PM
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That's where everyone has their shorts in a bunch over nothing. The engine has to have been at an extended idle, tuned rich on the low end, and permitted time to develop a fuel puddle for this to happen. In flight it just ain't so. Even an extended approach at low throttle presents at best an insignificant chance of killing the engine, and even then it would only happen at a rapid throttle up. Jody at Valley View has THE correct fix for the condition, but it's not something he can do for free with every engine that's been sold. Hell, he shouldn't do it for even one engine.

A part has to be manufactured and installed to cure the basic condition, anotherpart woulkd well serve general performance after the basic part was installed, and there is no way a distributor is responsible for the cost in time and labor. Nor should everyone suddenly start making calls and e-mails insisting that this part be provided to them. It's a manufacturer responsibility and should be left that way.
Old 11-10-2009 | 03:36 PM
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If the people at ValleyView have a solution to the problem, I think that they should reap the benefits of that solution. I would pay a liitle more for their solution, no problem. I also think the Chinese mfgs should also pay (Valleyview) for the solution. Just my $.02

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Old 11-10-2009 | 03:38 PM
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I 2nd that!!
Old 11-10-2009 | 03:55 PM
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That's where everyone has their shorts in a bunch over nothing. The engine has to have been at an extended idle, tuned rich on the low end, and permitted time to develop a fuel puddle for this to happen. In flight it just ain't so. Even an extended approach at low throttle presents at best an insignificant chance of killing the engine, and even then it would only happen at a rapid throttle up. Jody at Valley View has THE correct fix for the condition, but it's not something he can do for free with every engine that's been sold. Hell, he shouldn't do it for even one engine.

A part has to be manufactured and installed to cure the basic condition, anotherpart woulkd well serve general performance after the basic part was installed, and there is no way a distributor is responsible for the cost in time and labor. Nor should everyone suddenly start making calls and e-mails insisting that this part be provided to them. It's a manufacturer responsibility and should be left that way.
I am one of the people that had 2 of these engines and they both did the same thing, I have sent them back twice and still they will not run below 2100 without dying. You also say there is nothing wrong and yet the manufacture says there is. I fly off of a smooth surface and at that RPM you can't even turn the plane without it tipping over and if you lower the throttle your walking to get it because it died, AND YESSS ITS TUNED PROPERLY!!!!!!!!! I have 3 gas engine at the moment and they are all DL 50 and they run like a champ, I guess i have them tuned wrong too.

I do agree that Jody should not be doing the fix's but if they want to sell these engines sombody better do something, besides tell us to run the idle up.

Anyway not my problem anymore because I have sent them back for the final time and getting my money back.


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