That sounds possible. I had the heli and the radio right next to each other on the rock wall in front of my house. Didn't even think about them being so close. And when it happened in the garage the heli and radio were about 2 feet apart (heli in one hand and radio in the other). I will try to do some testing with TX and RX further apart.

Thanks again for the help.

Do a range check with the ant. all the way down and walk away from the heli and see if it glitches any then, you might have a bad board or maybe you hit the stick a little. That happened to me once... OUCH [] ! Wow Li-po prices are really coming down. Now you can afford to have more than one, without it costing you a fortune. YEAH Saw a 11.1v 1250 for 22.00 buy it now plus 6.50 to ship $28.50 total that's awesome for a Li-po of this size I paid $57.00 for my TP 11.1v 1250 that's almost a $30 savings

Chaseman81

Here's some pics of the bag and my toys, FYI...

Just waiting on the replacement GY240 now from Tower on a swap.. already have the mini-ESC to snap in too..

hi all...ive had my axe-cp for a few weeks now and love it...its also in the new issue of rc-heli,,,they done a full flight test,,,and the results are all good....we all made a good choice to get one of these helis to learn on...

Thanks for the advice on doing the range check. I must have a bad board or TX as I can't get but about 20 feet away from the heli before it starts glitching. Looks like I will have to send it back to Heli-Max. I am glad and lucky that it didn't get destoyed in a crash.

Wow - I had the same thing happen and I am running DX6. I had to put the Throttle Trim down to -8 before I could safely know the mains won't spin with the stick all the way down.

Push the stick up just one detent and she spins up good. I don't like it but I am aware of the safety issue and am working around it.

Andybody else get main motor grief even when the stick is all the way down?

Thanks!! This is exactly what I was looking for! But, the Gyro Journey is just beginning...

I am running DX6 radio and it looks like this will work. What radio settings do I need to look at before attempting a hover with the Gy240 installed?

Does anyne know if there is a scale body made for the axe. I have seen the scale bodies for the blade helis, but was wondering if anyone made one for the Axe.

I had the same thing happend to me and eventually the motor just ran with no inputs what so ever. It turned out my 3n1 was crap.

Try [link=http://darthdrk.4t.com./index.html]here[/link]. DarthDrk makes scale heli fuselages. I know he bought an Axe a while ago to see which of his bodies might fit or to make some that would. So give him a shout he should be able to help.

To handofdume......so what did you have to do? Send the heli back to Heli-Max? It looks like that's what I will have to do as the LHS doesn't want to deal with it. That is one LHS that I will never pruchase a radio, engine, heli, or plane from again. I have only had the AXE for something like 2 weeks or a little more. I have the receipt and everything. Oh well if that is what it take that's what I have to do.

I sent it back to Helimax, it took them a week or so and they sent me a new heli. The new one however had a bad tail motor, when i called them on that they sent me a new tail motor, i got that in 2 days. So far i think there service is pretty good. THey will need a copy of the receipt though so keep that and i also found their service is better on the phone then in emails.

Markind

I tried the gy240 with no mods as described in the link i gave you and the results were dissapointing at best. No matter how i set it couldnt get it to work right. Either the tail rotor hauled ass or it didnt move at all. Fortunatly i marked my 3n1 settings before i started so i just removed it and set it back to normal. I do have the ESC that helimax reccomends in the instal pdf so i am going to solder it in this weekend.

Thanks for the info....I will call them tomorrow.

I have a, I gues obvious question on lipos. I ordered the e-sky lipo and charger. I have a spare micro deans plug. When I get the battery I am going to remove the discharge adaptor that is on it and solder on the deans. One is this a good idea? Two The positive wire goes to male side and negative to female side.


Heliko, Thanks for the link, I have e-mailed him aand asked if he has any bodies that will work on the Axe.

You're Welcome gotta try and do a radio check everytime. It could save you in the air and on the ground

Chaseman81

strtykrincognito,
What charger is that in the pic? Do you have two balancers and two batteries hooked up? Working okay for you? I'm trying to pin down the best charger/balancer batt combo, and the choices are a bit confusing...

That charger looks like a Hobbico quick field charger that does Ni-Cd, Ni-MH, and Ni-Ion batteries. I didn't know that you could charge Li-Poly with that charger. Tell us about your experiences.

Thanks

Don't remove the discharge plug. Instead get yourself a jst plug and solder your deans plug on that. This way you have a pigtail made and if you ever get another mini/micro that has the original battery plug you won't have to solder more connectors. I made a pigtail so I can still use the stock batteries as well as the lipos. Most helis have that jst/bec type connector, The Axe is an annomaly.

Thanks Rotor, that idea had run through my mind but I didn't give it much thought. One more question, I know that the lipos should not be discharged below a certain point.( i was told 3v per cell) Is this right, and is it ok to just run the battery till the heli gets light but will not get of the grond. Ths is what I have been doing with the stock betteries, if this is wrong please recommend a better way to tell me when the battery is run down enough.


I am open to everyone's advise. (most likely it is better than mine.)

Well guys, I think I finally got it. All the time, MONEY, miles of driving, mods, and upgrades have finally come to fruition. I can hover both my TP1320's all the way now(about 12 min apiece)! With only slight vibration as well. Now that all the snow is melting, I'm getting tons of hover practice. I was cursing this thing a month ago, now i'm super psyched! If it weren't for you guys and and this(and other) threads, I probably would still be on the ground. Thank you. Hopefully i'll be giving advice and tips here soon. Pics and vid to come soon!

Figured I would repost this here so more of you see it. Those of you who fly indoors in small spaces will have noticed that the heli bobs and weaves unexpectedly and will also suddenly drop in altitude for no apparent reason.

"In typical flight, the rotor disc directs the airflow downwards, creating lift. A vortex ring state (VRS), though, involves a toroid-shaped path of airflow circumscribing the blade disc, as the airflow moves down through the disc, then outward, and then down through the top again. This re-circulation of flow can negate much of the lifting force and cause a catastrophic loss of altitude.

A helicopter typically induces a vortex ring state by descending into its own downwash. This requires low airspeed and a moderate rate of descent with power applied, and can lead to an undesirable phase of flight known as settling with power. This condition can be corrected by lowering the collective, which controls the pitch angle of the rotor blade, slightly pitching nose down, and establishing forward flight. The aircraft will fly into "clean air", and will be able to regain lift.

A clear understanding of this condition is essential for helicopter pilots to avoid danger.

On a fast descent, no vortex will form because the vertical airspeed is faster than the recirculation speed - although rapid descent through one's own downwash is itself a highly dangerous manoeuvre.
With high airspeed, no vortex will form because the translational airflow is faster than the recirculation speed. "

This is a description of descent-under-power, by the way, a very dangerous condition for full-size helis during landing, but one I've never experienced with a micro. They float near the surface without forming the toroid-shaped flow. Still the turbulence you create in a small space is real and can make you bob around.

Well that's no fun. I just picked up my Gy240 from my LHS. He just started selling the Axe CP and sold two already! I am using DX6 radio and he said it should work fine. He said bring it back if it doesn't work well for you, just keep it virgin!

I'm going to try some experiments tomorrow - I'll post how it goes.

I should have also mentioned that I fly in an area that is only 6' x 6' and bordered by furniture on 3 sides... I took her outdoors for the first time and it flies like a completely different animal, solid as a rock

No problem. What you were told about the batteries is pretty much true. Going lower than 3v per cell can permanently ruin the battery and render it useless. Look around for a voltage alarm, It will give off an audible sound when you approach the limit or a signal you with a blinking led. Most people time there flights and gauge that against how much voltage is left in the battery. General rule of thumb is to land as soon as you notice a performance drop in the heli.