Byron Wedell Williams Racer Build
02-17-2008, 03:10 PM
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Thanks for taking the time to post updates. Your workmanship looks terrific. This is a fascinating kit to build and you will have one sweet flyer when you are finished.
Dave
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02-17-2008, 08:05 PM
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Dave,
Thanks for the kind words. I really enjoy building and hope people are enjoying the thread.
The UPS man arrived with a shipment of servos and the Rx. Will be using PCM for the failsafe aspect. Changed my servo selection some. I went with the Futaba S3152 for the Ailerons.
http://www.servocity.com/~servo/html/s3152.html
Futaba S9202 for the Rudder and Elevator halves.
http://www.servocity.com/~servo/html...l_bearing.html
Standard BB servo for the throttle. Will be running at 6v so no shortage of muscle. Likely overkill but I saw a friends biplane auger in when he stalled his servos in a power dive. Similar weight and power to the WWR, he was running 4.8v and standard servos.
Pete
03-24-2008, 09:30 PM
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Well the build is progressing. Got off track with spring Honey Do's [&o]
The Horizontal Stab is pretty straightforward. The Keel components are butt glued then the TE 1/2 in balsa followed with the leading edge balsa parts. I glued the 4in wide center balsa after marking the cut line for the LE section. Cap strips added. I just need to add the 1/8 ply supports for the stab flying wires.
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The Horizontal Stab is pretty straightforward. The Keel components are butt glued then the TE 1/2 in balsa followed with the leading edge balsa parts. I glued the 4in wide center balsa after marking the cut line for the LE section. Cap strips added. I just need to add the 1/8 ply supports for the stab flying wires.
Pete
03-24-2008, 09:36 PM
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Elevators are also per plans. I did cut the LE balsa too long but was able to notch it out and properly place the E2 balsa and lite ply parts. The TE balsa was placed and then the cap strips. I lined up the strips based on the corresponding stab strip.
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03-25-2008, 09:01 AM
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Hello Rocketman612,
Looking good so far !
Just wanted to let you know , I live about 10 minutes away from the muesuem where the Flying replicas of the Wedell / Williams
Racers are , if you are interested in some pics / documentation of the real thing, they have both the Red Lion & # 44 , There is also one that's Black & White, Sorry i dont have any more info of this one For i t has just recently arrived , & I havent seen it yet,
If interested , Let me know .
51-D GUY
03-25-2008, 12:41 PM
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Hello Rocketman612,
Looking good so far !
Just wanted to let you know , I live about 10 minutes away from the muesuem where the Flying replicas of the Wedell / Williams
Racers are , if you are interested in some pics / documentation of the real thing, they have both the Red Lion & # 44 , There is also one that's Black & White, Sorry i dont have any more info of this one For i t has just recently arrived , & I havent seen it yet,
If interested , Let me know .
51-D GUY
Hello Rocketman612,
Looking good so far !
Just wanted to let you know , I live about 10 minutes away from the muesuem where the Flying replicas of the Wedell / Williams
Racers are , if you are interested in some pics / documentation of the real thing, they have both the Red Lion & # 44 , There is also one that's Black & White, Sorry i dont have any more info of this one For i t has just recently arrived , & I havent seen it yet,
If interested , Let me know .
51-D GUY
Thanks for the offer. I have someone going to the museum to do a photoshoot of the WWR planes when the exhibit opens again. It's been closed for renovations for the past few months.
Glad your enjoying the build. Jump in anytime with suggestions or tips.
Pete
04-06-2008, 09:37 PM
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Finished the Horizontal stab and elevators as well as most of the Rudder. To get a consistent shape I used a piece of pvc pipe cut it's length with sandpaper glued on. Same done on the elevators. Drill pressed the holes for the blind nuts. Table saw for the bevel and set the hinges leaving no gap. The blind nut needed to be trimmed where it was overlapping the bevel.
The Rudder ribs were missing so they were made from scrap stock and placed. Top and bottom edge balsa added and the rough airfoil shape sanded.
Pete
The Rudder ribs were missing so they were made from scrap stock and placed. Top and bottom edge balsa added and the rough airfoil shape sanded.
Pete
04-09-2008, 07:10 PM
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After going over the photo's of the #44 and 121 tail section I'm deviating from the plans to make the model more scale. The elevators and rudder are not tapered to the trailing edge as the plans call for. They are uniform in thickness with a rounded edge.
Look back on the prior post of the elevators. The dowel in the kit was drilled off center so I fabricated another, The position marked and drilled then epoxied in place. I added 1/8 ply on each side of the TE to thicken it then rough sanded to shape. Filler added and will sand and round the edge. Another item are the flying wires the #44 plane has 1 anchor point the #121 has 2 so I'll have to commit to a final version soon.
Pete
Look back on the prior post of the elevators. The dowel in the kit was drilled off center so I fabricated another, The position marked and drilled then epoxied in place. I added 1/8 ply on each side of the TE to thicken it then rough sanded to shape. Filler added and will sand and round the edge. Another item are the flying wires the #44 plane has 1 anchor point the #121 has 2 so I'll have to commit to a final version soon.
Pete
04-10-2008, 12:50 AM
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I stumbled on this thread and only hoped to have this plane. Well today I found a brand new in the box Byron and I am thrilled to say the least. I look forward to watching this thread with enthusiasm.
Perry
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04-10-2008, 07:24 AM
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I stumbled on this thread and only hoped to have this plane. Well today I found a brand new in the box Byron and I am thrilled to say the least. I look forward to watching this thread with enthusiasm.
Perry
I stumbled on this thread and only hoped to have this plane. Well today I found a brand new in the box Byron and I am thrilled to say the least. I look forward to watching this thread with enthusiasm.
Perry
Yes, you will be pleased with the quality of the kit. Everything from the glass work to the laser cut parts. It's been an enjoyable build to date.
Pete
05-26-2008, 06:20 PM
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Well I'm behind on both building and posting. Have finished the wings except for some final sanding/forming of the LE and TE. The Rudder turned out well with the thicker TE. It looks more scale. Hinged with the supplied Robart Hingepoints. I used my drill press to drill for the hardwood dowel that accepts the control horn just making sure it's all plum. Then drilled the hole for the bolt.
05-26-2008, 06:53 PM
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Next I laminated the firewall and made the anchoring ring. The blind nuts do not fit the holes well so using my "Unibit" I enlarged all the holes to 7/32 then epoxied all the nuts in place. Using the Dremmel I made all the fuse cutouts then sanded the inner area for the firewall mount.
The firewall placed and taped into position then drilled the fiberglass with a 5/32 bit. Starting at 12 o'clock I place a bolt to keep things from shifting them drilled at the 5 and 7 spots then the rest. First time using Aeropoxy and I like the ease of use. No problem with the gun or the mixing tip. The ring was set first and anchored with the bolts, then I applied a generous amount of Aeropoxy to the gap between the ring and fuse. Using my finger I finished it off like caulking leaving a nice radius. Started making the formers by adding the doublers.
The firewall placed and taped into position then drilled the fiberglass with a 5/32 bit. Starting at 12 o'clock I place a bolt to keep things from shifting them drilled at the 5 and 7 spots then the rest. First time using Aeropoxy and I like the ease of use. No problem with the gun or the mixing tip. The ring was set first and anchored with the bolts, then I applied a generous amount of Aeropoxy to the gap between the ring and fuse. Using my finger I finished it off like caulking leaving a nice radius. Started making the formers by adding the doublers.
05-28-2008, 02:06 PM
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Rocketman, first ,great job ,excellent craftsmanship. What is the price of the Aero poxy, and do you have to purchase the gun seperately? Also do you feel you do not need to use the 6 oz. cloth to glass over the piece when using said Aeropoxy? Does the instructions call for glassing in the former as with most other Byron models?
Gary
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05-28-2008, 06:36 PM
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Rocketman, first ,great job ,excellent craftsmanship. What is the price of the Aero poxy, and do you have to purchase the gun seperately? Also do you feel you do not need to use the 6 oz. cloth to glass over the piece when using said Aeropoxy? Does the instructions call for glassing in the former as with most other Byron models?
Gary
Rocketman, first ,great job ,excellent craftsmanship. What is the price of the Aero poxy, and do you have to purchase the gun seperately? Also do you feel you do not need to use the 6 oz. cloth to glass over the piece when using said Aeropoxy? Does the instructions call for glassing in the former as with most other Byron models?
Gary
Thanks for the kind words. Here is the link to BVM http://www.bvmprops.com/Tools/aeropoxy.htm
Purchase the kit then more glue and tips as you need them.
For the Firewall I will be using West Systems resin and 6oz cloth. With a G62 on the nose there will be plenty of vibration and the extra cloth layer onto the fuse wall should keep it rock solid. I will skip glassing the formers in place using only the Aeropoxy to mount them. Pat McCurry and others have had excellent results without reinforcing glass. A search on the subject found builders doing glass and some with no glass.
Pete
06-13-2008, 12:59 PM
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Need some feedback here....
Next is to mate the wings to the fuse. The formers had their doublers applied and fitted. Your asked to "Level the Fuse" with the 1-1/4 blocks from the wing jig. I had a hard time placing a line on the fuse so I figured the firewall must be level to give a "0" thrust angle. the nose would not come down enough to get it right and I had to add 1/4 in to the blocks at the TE I'll add the same amount to the wingtip blocks under W7 to set the proper dihedral. After getting the firewall leveled I checked the incidence of the fuse wing root and it's a grunt over 1 degree. The plans call for 1.5 to 2 degrees.
My question is did I do this correct?? Those flying the WWR where did you set the incidence? I had a Spacewalker with 3 degrees incidence and it kept ballooning above 1/2 throttle changed it to 1 degree and she flew great very stable.
Will wait for some opinions before moving on...
Thanks, Pete
Next is to mate the wings to the fuse. The formers had their doublers applied and fitted. Your asked to "Level the Fuse" with the 1-1/4 blocks from the wing jig. I had a hard time placing a line on the fuse so I figured the firewall must be level to give a "0" thrust angle. the nose would not come down enough to get it right and I had to add 1/4 in to the blocks at the TE I'll add the same amount to the wingtip blocks under W7 to set the proper dihedral. After getting the firewall leveled I checked the incidence of the fuse wing root and it's a grunt over 1 degree. The plans call for 1.5 to 2 degrees.
My question is did I do this correct?? Those flying the WWR where did you set the incidence? I had a Spacewalker with 3 degrees incidence and it kept ballooning above 1/2 throttle changed it to 1 degree and she flew great very stable.
Will wait for some opinions before moving on...
Thanks, Pete
06-13-2008, 03:09 PM
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Pete,
The build looks great I have wanted to see a build using fiberglass and how it is going together. I so want to build one of these just need to get one in line.
Mark
The build looks great I have wanted to see a build using fiberglass and how it is going together. I so want to build one of these just need to get one in line.
Mark
06-13-2008, 03:25 PM
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Pete,
The build looks great I have wanted to see a build using fiberglass and how it is going together. I so want to build one of these just need to get one in line.
Mark
Pete,
The build looks great I have wanted to see a build using fiberglass and how it is going together. I so want to build one of these just need to get one in line.
Mark
Mark it's going really well. Using the fiberglass fuse is the issue with getting a good "Center Line" to level. I used a stringer with past builds but none here. Using the firewall to level the fuse.
Pete