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Old 01-23-2007 | 10:37 PM
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Bob, do I detect a little cabin fever? Come up to my neck of the woods. It is not too bad now. I think you got all of our ice and snow Usually it is in the single didgets or teens here this time of year. Tell you what, glow engines have an amazing ammount of power at that temp though!
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i did see a guy in my club cut his exhaust pipes once, it was in a scale warbird and he had a slimline pitts, they were kinda long, he cut them shorter just for appearance purposes, not sure how it affected the motor
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What are the pro/cons of mounting the throttle servo in the the motor box vs. back in the fuse? The motor box ply seems a little flimsy to me and I'm not sure I want to cut into it. Is the short direct linkage worth hacking the motor box?


Also, whats the best fuel dot setup? 3 pipes to the tank with a seperate pipe for fueling? or 2 pipes with a T?

This is my first gasser, my previous airplanes have been Extreme Flight electrics so using liquid fuel and a servo for a throttle is new to me.

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Both areas are real "opinion" areas. Not any "right" ways, just lots of different "good ways". You have to decide what floats your boat, that YOU think looks easy to work with.

Many people just "T" the supply line to the carb inlet, and use that as fill/drain. WOrks fine.
Others like the three line deal - depends on you.

Throttle servo - less vibration back in the fuse, but harder to have slop-free, rigid throttle setup. Mounting the servo on the box has advantages too. short linkage, easier to maintain slop free, more accessible for setup/tweaking.

I put my servos on the engine boxes. I tee my fuel lines to the tank.
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Is my carb bad? I just got my 40GT yesterday. Got it all mounted up and plumbed. Filled the tank and no fuel draw . It sounds like there is air leaking out the side of the carb. I pulled the feed line off the carb and tryed to blow through it nothing... I'm stumped
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Old 01-25-2007 | 07:35 PM
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Make sure you are plumbed like THIS picture. You cannot blow through a gas inlet line. Completely different than glow. You would not get a bad carb from him, as he runs everything in place.

Check all your plumbing against this picture.
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Plumbing is fine. I did buy this engine from a gentleman. He told me he ran 2 tanks of fuel through it. Funny the only thing that looks used is the spark plug. I guess I will call scott tomorrow and see what is up. This isn't my first gas engine, but I'm no expert with them either. I know something isn't right
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Make sure you are plumbed like THIS picture. You cannot blow through a gas inlet line. Completely different than glow. You would not get a bad carb from him, as he runs everything in place.

Check all your plumbing against this picture.
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i would check the needles sometimes people close them all the way down when they store motors...if open cover the carb hole with your finger and turn the prop with ign. off of course you should see fuel being pulled through the lines..
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Snook, yup did that and checked the needles. When you I turn the prop over it sounds like there is air escaping from the side of the carb.
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i would check the needles sometimes people close them all the way down when they store motors...if open cover the carb hole with your finger and turn the prop with ign. off of course you should see fuel being pulled through the lines..
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If it's really new and never been fired, then the carb us going to be bone dry. You need to prime the carb.

Pull both needles out and squirt fuel in the holes. Give it a minute to soak in. Do it again, and then put both needles back in. Screw them all the way in and then back both out 2 turns. Start and tune it from there.
This is the response I got over in the Gas engine fourm. All be damned if that isn't what it was...lol I even woke the wife up, worth it though. The little 40 seems to run good!
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Old 01-26-2007 | 09:23 AM
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Great to hear you got her going! Great little engines....
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Plumbing is fine. I did buy this engine from a gentleman. He told me he ran 2 tanks of fuel through it. Funny the only thing that looks used is the spark plug. I guess I will call scott tomorrow and see what is up. This isn't my first gas engine, but I'm no expert with them either. I know something isn't right
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Make sure you are plumbed like THIS picture. You cannot blow through a gas inlet line. Completely different than glow. You would not get a bad carb from him, as he runs everything in place.

Check all your plumbing against this picture.
Glad to hear!

Put that MSC 18x8 on er and see how close to 8,400 she spins it. -- It will probably be restricted by the muffler (too high rpms -- wrong prop for the motor), but my guess is the upper 7’s or so.



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Got a couple of flights in before my canopy blew off and ended my day. The first couple of tanks were very disappointing. Hover at full throttle with almost no vertical. As I got to my 4th tank the engine started to wake up a bit. Not to mention it was running pig rich and every flight the needles were getting leaned on. Hovering was now taking place at just over 1/2 throttle with ok pull out. I'm running a 3w 19x8 wood and I only tached it on the initial run at 6600rpm. I'm sure it is way over 7k now. I'm going to go ahead and order a 20x8 pt models prop and stick that on there as soon as i go thru this 1.5 gallons of lawnboy ashless mixed at 32:1. I'm running a 12oz tank and flying 10 minutes uses 6oz of fuel. Gonna be alot of flying to use up that 1.5 gallons.
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Here's the vid of my ground run, Brillelli 46, NX 21 x 8.... seems like it will be O.K.
http://www.rcuvideos.com/view_video....8b53dca4ecfcb9
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Here's the vid of my ground run, Brillelli 46, NX 21 x 8.... seems like it will be O.K.
http://www.rcuvideos.com/view_video....8b53dca4ecfcb9
Sweet!

That muffler sounds great! Motor manhandles the NX21x8 nicely--as you said it would. Looks smoooooooth.

[size=3] I am PUMPED!!!!!!!!
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Awesome.
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Got a couple of flights in before my canopy blew off and ended my day. The first couple of tanks were very disappointing. Hover at full throttle with almost no vertical. As I got to my 4th tank the engine started to wake up a bit. Not to mention it was running pig rich and every flight the needles were getting leaned on. Hovering was now taking place at just over 1/2 throttle with ok pull out. I'm running a 3w 19x8 wood and I only tached it on the initial run at 6600rpm. I'm sure it is way over 7k now. I'm going to go ahead and order a 20x8 pt models prop and stick that on there as soon as i go thru this 1.5 gallons of lawnboy ashless mixed at 32:1. I'm running a 12oz tank and flying 10 minutes uses 6oz of fuel. Gonna be alot of flying to use up that 1.5 gallons.
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It always seems to spoil things when the canopy goes away--Is it OK?

Thanks for the flight report. Sounds promising--like a good combo. Did you get a weight on the plane with the 40 on it? Can you tell much difference with the increased pound or so of weight?

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It always seems to spoil things when the canopy goes away--Is it OK?

Thanks for the flight report. Sounds promising--like a good combo. Did you get a weight on the plane with the 40 on it? Can you tell much difference with the increased pound or so of weight?
Did not get a weight on it yet. It doesn't seem like there is a difference. It flys pretty much the same. Predictable and unbelievably stable. I'm gonna get some fish scale and rpm numbers on it tomorrow. I do have to say though, that the YS160 does have a lot more power, I'm pretty sure that even once broken in the birelli still will not have the same power.
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::: wow ::: Unreal that a 1.6 would have more guts than a 2.4, but I guess that's why YS has their nitro-burning, glow-guzzlin', slime-cleaning followers.

Just like the gassers!!! Gotta LOVE the diversity!!!!!!!!!

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It always seems to spoil things when the canopy goes away--Is it OK?

Thanks for the flight report. Sounds promising--like a good combo. Did you get a weight on the plane with the 40 on it? Can you tell much difference with the increased pound or so of weight?
Did not get a weight on it yet. It doesn't seem like there is a difference. It flys pretty much the same. Predictable and unbelievably stable. I'm gonna get some fish scale and rpm numbers on it tomorrow. I do have to say though, that the YS160 does have a lot more power, I'm pretty sure that even once broken in the birelli still will not have the same power.
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I bet once you get the right prop on there (pt20x8) you will feel a noticeable improvement (not saying it will = YS on 30%). Remember, on pull out from hover you are now ~ + pound. Thanks doing this testing.
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Another quick question:

I couldn't find Penzoil or opti2 in my area for the Brillelli46. The local Home Depot had various standard 2 stroke oil by Toro, Echo, Power Blend, etc. They also had a few different brands of synthetic 2 stroke oil. Does it make a difference for the break in? Any suggestions?

Thanks,
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I couldn't find Penzoil or opti2 in my area for the Brillelli46. The local Home Depot had various standard 2 stroke oil by Toro, Echo, Power Blend, etc. They also had a few different brands of synthetic 2 stroke oil. Does it make a difference for the break in? Any suggestions?
There are various opinions about which 2-stroke oil to use, break-in oil, etc. Here's an RCU thread that you might want to take a look at -http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_5020364/mpage_1/key_oil/tm.htm

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Another quick question:

I couldn't find Penzoil or opti2 in my area for the Brillelli46. The local Home Depot had various standard 2 stroke oil by Toro, Echo, Power Blend, etc. They also had a few different brands of synthetic 2 stroke oil. Does it make a difference for the break in? Any suggestions?

Thanks,
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Remember, these are CHAINSAW motors.... Poulan oil... Husqvarna oil.... Stihl oil....even the Wally world cheapie stuff works.
I just answered this on the "Brillelli Boyz" thread.... I use Pennzoil because of the various write ups about it. You can order a 12 pk on the Internet for a pretty cheap price, and have oil for a couple years. THink of all the trips you'll save running it down.

I'm not an 'oil debater' - I just recommend that one use GOOD, proven lubrication, and NOT run the engine lean. Heat is the enemy (and enema) of these engines. Airflow, good oil, - never forget these are chainsaws....
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Remember, these are CHAINSAW motors....
I use Pennzoil because of the various write ups about it. You can order a 12 pk on the Internet for a pretty cheap price
That is another thing that makes these motors almost too good to be true. They are piston port--no extra parts to go bad--designed and proven to be robust. No purpose built model aircraft motor of similar weight and power can compare with this expected reliability and ease of care/use.

Do you remember where you are ordered the Pennzoil online?


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