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Old 10-29-2005 | 07:32 PM
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Good luck Ron. I hope it works out for you. I bet you'll be glad to have it flying normal again. It's been a while.

I was going to try to fly today but the weather has been wretched all day untill.... well, now that it's too late in the day to fly.....[>:] and we gotta turn back the clocks tonight......[>:] I can't wait for the spring......[&o] I used to love the winter cuz I would go skiing or hunting...... now that I mostly fly, I hate it.....[>:] Just makes it even harder to practice those Gary style inverted fly bys in the dark...[:-]
Old 10-29-2005 | 07:57 PM
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put lights on it rob, it helps

Ron is gonna have a great day tomorrow
Old 10-29-2005 | 11:37 PM
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ORIGINAL: Barry Cazier


Also, sometimes I reverse the ailerons and try to fly. People do that all the time and crash. I figure I'll practice it and then if I do it sometime it won't be a big deal.

Another one...set up two of your planes exactly the same way with your radio and fly them both at the same time. A new take on pattern flying. That'll keep things interesting.

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Hell, Barry, you're not "Cazier," you're "Crazier"! I HAVE tried reversing ailerons (A Twist, .50 O.S.: picked up the wrong radio, right model #, bad preflight check. The ailerons moved, after all, just the wrong way! I didn't notice). I said to myself when I discovered the problem, in flight, "Well, this is inverted flight. I can do this. Picture the bird inverted. The up and down was NOT reversed, but what the hell. I got turned back toward the field, doing just fine, but ran into the sun, then couldn't see through a tree between me and the bird. I augered in.

But two planes at once? What an imagination you have. That one will keep me up nights--dreaming of the impossibilities--and the POSSIBILITIES. Wow!

Now, tell me true, Crazier. Have YOU ever tried two plance all to onct, one transmitter? Have you ever SEEN it done? HEARD of it being done? I have a Twist with a .45 Super Tigre and one with a Saito, 82a. I love them both, but you have me dreaming of putting them BOTH in the air at the same time. What a show THAT would be.

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Old 10-30-2005 | 05:15 AM
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Jack...I have reversed the ailerons and flew (not on purpose) and got back down ok. If you discover it quick enough so you know what's wrong and if you think and don't panic it's not toooooooooo bad. But, my post was in answer to CeeGee (RC) who said he was getting a bit bored. I wasn't bored when this happened so I thought I'd suggest it.

I haven't tried the two plane pattern thing, but I've sure thought about it a lot. It would look very impressive. And....what could happen?

I'm not sure if it's dreaming.....or nightmare.

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Old 10-30-2005 | 09:55 AM
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pu a couple of wooden dowels clear through the wings of one and into the other then disconnect the inside ailerons, tune your engines close together and whats so hard, just do it
Old 10-30-2005 | 10:20 AM
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gjeffers...You're on to something there. Good idea. I'm giving it some thought.

Hey, seems like all the rage to change your user name. Now I'm thinking about that too. What do you guys think. I think I'm going to go with "CeeGee". Catchy isn't it?

Thanks
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Old 10-30-2005 | 10:37 AM
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thanks CEEGEE. sometimes i have headaches and your ideas help ill go to my room now[]
Old 10-30-2005 | 11:45 AM
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Just joining here. Started to read from the beginning but realized 146 pages and decided to
skip to the end.

I am looking at this plane. I just crashed my US1000 and want something to put my Super
Tigre .46 ABC in. This motor was on a Fazer and with a 11x4 would go vertical. It weighed
6lbs. How would this motor due on this airframe???
Old 10-30-2005 | 12:56 PM
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Hey People.... Well Not a Great morning ... But it could have been a lot worse..
No, no crash... Reciever problem[:@]... It all checked good at home, but at the
field... First off the S-100 ran great as always... But while running it up on the
table I noticed the rudder moving also, I thought it was just me moving the stick
while throttling up, anyway I put it on the runway and taxi out for take off, I blip
the throttle as I normally do and it ground loops on me, I go out and hold it and
everytime I go from half to full throttle I also get full Lt. rudder[:'(]... After
checking and switching servo's/channels found my channel 4 bad... Oh well next
time I guess... I'll send the rec. for a check up and use the one I have for the S.T.
So will try again tomorrow or in a few days... One thing for sure... That 100 sure
pushes a lot of air and WILL move the "Do" at will... Ohh and the 100 vib's a little
more... It really brings out the "wing music".... Hold on wings [:-]

sdcranford .. your S.T. 46 will fly the "Do"..... But you really need more power to
do anything to really play with the "Do" I guess the "prefered" engine for the "46"
would be a Saito 82... I had a YS-63 on mine and it flew it great, But now trying
the Saito 100 on it.. but still yet to fly it with the 100...
Old 10-30-2005 | 01:28 PM
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I will be interested to see what you think of th Saito 100 compared to th YS 63 in the 46 size U Can Do, I'm trying to decide which one to use.
Jerry
Old 10-30-2005 | 01:48 PM
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I have a lot of other projects going that need motors. I just want something fun to fly that
is reliable and not hard to get set up. If I love the plane I will upgrade motors later.

Thanks for the help!
Old 10-30-2005 | 02:41 PM
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hey SC, welcome, like Ron said, the 46 will fly the plane pretty good but to really have fun you will need a .82 4s, i say 4s because i know nothing about 2s's.get one you will love it even with the 46 but as time passes you will know when its time to upgrade in power and it will be like a new plane all over and then you will understand why we love this plane,i had a saito 100 in mine and loved it and had over 300 flights on it so that is a statement on how well built it is, just a few minor upgrades in the main gear block and maybe some tailwires and just make sure you get enough epoxy on the horizontal stab and go for it

good luck and keep us updated
and ask all the Q's you need
Old 10-30-2005 | 02:42 PM
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sorry you had probs Ron but remember its worth it, its worth it itsworth it----------------
Old 10-30-2005 | 02:45 PM
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Jerry, the 100 is great in the 46 size, but i think if i were just setting this plane up for ease and great flying i would just go with the saito 82, i think its the best overall engine for this plane, i just had a 100 looking for a plane is why i put it in in the first place and would recomend it to anyone who has one laying around because it is great in this plane------- am i rambling again!!!!

good luck and have funnnnn
Old 10-30-2005 | 03:09 PM
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Thanks, if its what you guys say it is then a Satio 100 will be in it soon. I have a 4*60 waiting for a
satio 100 so that will be the first 4s I have ever had in 12 yrs of this hobby.
Old 10-30-2005 | 05:29 PM
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youll love it sd, the only thing is that you really need to use is a 60 size mount imo and raise the horizontal thrust line about .25 in to get the cowl to fit, if its not just right and as far back as you can get it on the mount it wont line up right.mount the mount as far to the right to the edge as possible also. ill get you some pics later when i get my computer up,should be tonight.these are just my expierences that i had success with, you should still do your own measuring before any cutting or drilling.
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Thanks guys, you sold me. I just ordered it with Tower. I had a $25 GC and the $20 off with a purchase of
$150 or more. I got some extra stuff, high torque servo for the tail, HD extensions, voltwatch, ect. Plus the
free shipping with my tower club. They say $149.99 on the website but once you get through to confirmation
it is $144.95 for the ARF.

Will post some pics, hopefully I like this thing enough to put a 4s Saito on it and put the ST .45 in another
project I'm working on.

Thanks again!!
Old 10-30-2005 | 09:03 PM
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Hey Gary.. After switching to the new receiver and still having the same problem
and remembering what a club member said about me flying an awful lot and that
it could eaisly be a broken wire on the rudder gimbal, he even told me it would be
an orange wire and sure enough the orange wire had broke.. I soldered it and
shrinked wrapped and all is like new and all works great.. I left the new
receiver in and will still send the other in for a check up... Will try again on tues or
wed....

sdcranford.... The YS 63 flew the "Do" great!!! But in this AZ heat with less lift and
lost in power during the "HOT" months, I started looking for another power plant, I
was going to go with the S-82.. I also think this is the best for the "Do", but found
a "GREAT" deal on "new/used" S-100 so I went for it... I think the YS-63 is close or
at the power of the S-82, but the Saito will turn a bigger prop..
You said you had a 4*60 waiting for the Saito 100... When I got the Saito 100 and
since my "Do" was still in the repair mode I put the 100 in my 4*60, to "test" the S-
100 out, I had been flying it with a Mag 91... I loved my 4* with the 91... But WoW
the S-100 did so much more for my stock 4*.. It would hover till I ran out of fuel,
I did K.E. circuits, K.E. figure 8's.. The S-100 made my stock 4* so much better:-)
Old 10-30-2005 | 10:04 PM
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let me know when your ready to put that 100 in her sd and well help with pics and info, and by then Ron should have some additions to mine!!!

glad to hear you got it under control Ron, man it really stinks when you get ready with somthing new to do(get it?[X(]) and you have a hidden problem like that,dooo goood and make us all proud[8D]
Old 10-30-2005 | 10:51 PM
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ORIGINAL: Barry Cazier

gjeffers...You're on to something there. Good idea. I'm giving it some thought.

Hey, seems like all the rage to change your user name. Now I'm thinking about that too. What do you guys think. I think I'm going to go with "CeeGee". Catchy isn't it?

Thanks
Barry
Sorry if I caused a mess Barry and Gary. I was going to change it back or something that would work it wouldn't let me. You can only change it twice a yaar or something like that. Well what's done is done and it seems even a new tube of CA won't fix it......[&o] What do you think Barry errrr..... CeeGee?
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I haven't tried the two plane pattern thing, but I've sure thought about it a lot. It would look very impressive. And....what could happen?

I'm not sure if it's dreaming.....or nightmare.

Thanks
Barry
Uh, I'm not thinking "nightmare," just impossibilities. You would have to fly in dead calm. The variables of wind on the planes' surfaces would be impossible. Each plane would have to be the same weight, to a tenth of an ounce, powered by the same engine, tuned at the same rpm, top and bottom, with identical throttle throws and trim, same, balanced prop. And I'd like a section, 360 acres of flying field, to take off and land in.

And there are the variables of receivers and servos. Wow.

I think it's POSSIBLE, but you'd have to be willing to give up one plane in your mind, I'm thinking. You have maybe one chance in a 1000 of getting them both back on the field safely. But I could be wrong. I've been wrong before--and always learn from it.

I'm enjoying just THINKING about the challenge. Thanks.

Jack
Old 10-31-2005 | 09:09 AM
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Hi All!
Flew 3 flights yesterday here in OH. Temp was 60 and what a great day. For anyone new to the UCD. I have flown it on low rates about 12-15 flights and found it to be everything I could want. (Still a rookie) Come spring will put bigger servo arms on and kick up the rates. What a great plane. Saw a UCD 60 lose one screw out of landing gear yesterday and when he landed it ripped the other bolt out. Make sure you lock-tite
those bolts.

Doug[8D]
Old 11-01-2005 | 01:11 AM
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Hey all,

We had a great day to fly on Sunday here in PA, I messed w/ my CG a little. What are your guys running? I'm at about 5 1/4". My inverted flats were the best ever. Also, everyone talks about "mixing out" KE coupling......help me what are you mixing together? What is the diff in mixes if the plane pulls to the canopy or belly? Is the mix active all the time? or do you put it on a switch? I am trying to add another trick to my list, this is next

Mac
Old 11-01-2005 | 07:36 PM
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Mac, i use the rud to ele mix on a switch and also mixed in some rud to ail to help with wing vert on the same switch. if it dives to the belly then add some up ele when rud is applied and same with the ele and it will help but not cure, depends on how fast the plane is going so it will vary so i mixed in just enough on both to handle the middle curve and stick the rest, hope this helps.

also i have a hover switch and mixed in a little aileron to rud so the torque roll lightens up a bit, but you may like rolling
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Thanks for the info on receiver/transmitter problems.

But I have a question: have any of you compared the Twist 40 with the UCD 46? I bought a UCD 60 and put a Saito 1.00 in it. It flew like a dog, unexciting, BIG, but unexciting. I have a Twist with a .45 SuperTigre and a Twist with a Saito 82 (incredible!). I have a Model Tech Extra (ST .45) --just to do everything else FAST. I just built my third Uproar and put an O.S. .50 in it. Flew THAT three times today in winds of 10 mph on the GROUND; 23 mph gusts. Great fun. No plane of mine handles the wind better than the MT Extra, by the way. I've flown it in 27 mph gusts.

Second question: is the UCD 46 as much fun as the Twist--with ANY engine? I MIGHT consider a UCD 46 and put the Saito in it. The S-100 is SUPPOSED to be more power than the UCD 60 should have, but I found it doggy, unexciting.

Third question: what is more challenging, exciting than the Twist, the Uproar, and the Extra? I want a new plane for next month. [No electrics, please.]

Thanks,

Jack


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