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Old 04-22-2004 | 09:24 PM
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Suitcase, I have used a weighted prop nut on my OS FX 46 on my Bipe. I actually bought a 1 oz prop washer for my twister and it pretty much did the trick. The usually come in 1/2 oz to 2 oz weight, prop nut or washer. I had to move the throttle push rod over a little more to remove the bind I had. That meant drilling a new hole and plugging the old one. I used a chinese chopstick to fill the hole.
Can't even tell the hole was there.

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Old 04-23-2004 | 09:01 AM
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flying pics
Old 04-23-2004 | 09:18 AM
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Yeah, I want to see some flying pics too!!! How about a hover?
Old 04-23-2004 | 10:21 AM
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I'm about ready to put the servos in my Twist but I need to stop by the LHS and pick up servo extensions. What did you guys use on your setup?

Also, many have said the control rods in the kit are too short. Any suggestions on replacements or workarounds with the existing hardware? The stock hardware seems a bit too flexible so I was thinking of getting something different. This is my first fun-fly/3D style plane. What is light and works best for these short control linkages?
Old 04-23-2004 | 11:33 AM
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I'm about ready to put the servos in my Twist but I need to stop by the LHS and pick up servo extensions. What did you guys use on your setup?

Also, many have said the control rods in the kit are too short. Any suggestions on replacements or workarounds with the existing hardware? The stock hardware seems a bit too flexible so I was thinking of getting something different. This is my first fun-fly/3D style plane. What is light and works best for these short control linkages?
Havn't quite got mine ready to fly yet, but, on the control rods at the rear I used the 2-56 central hobbies carbon rods to build my control rods. I really don't think I saved any weight, I just wanted a stiffer connection.
Old 04-23-2004 | 12:12 PM
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I used two 12" servo extensions in the tail end of mine and no extensions on the ailerons. As to the pushrods, the only one I needed to replace was one on the tail, and I just used one that I had lying around from an old hanger 9 trainer that was totaled during the learning process a few years ago.

Wound up getting a .50 SX for this plane as the hobby shop didn't have any Saito .72's and I didn't think a .58 would be enough. Just hope the 50SX fits the engine rails.
Old 04-23-2004 | 12:33 PM
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I used extensions on the rudder, elevator, and they weren't very long. Had them laying around. Maybe 6 or 7 inches. I hate it that I cut back some of the cheek next to the firewall to try and make access to the fuel line (for fueling) easier. Now I still can't reach it well enough and have to buy some fittings to rig it up. Would installing a tee in the fuel line between the firewall and the engine and running a filler tube with plug out the bottom between the engine and firewall work or will it cause flow problems? Hope I explained myself.
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Old 04-23-2004 | 02:03 PM
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I used extensions on the rudder, elevator, and they weren't very long. Had them laying around. Maybe 6 or 7 inches. I hate it that I cut back some of the cheek next to the firewall to try and make access to the fuel line (for fueling) easier. Now I still can't reach it well enough and have to buy some fittings to rig it up. Would installing a tee in the fuel line between the firewall and the engine and running a filler tube with plug out the bottom between the engine and firewall work or will it cause flow problems? Hope I explained myself.
Thanks for the info on the extensions... The tee in the fuel line may work but you would risk the fuel running straight to the carb instead of into the tank while fueling. I think a better setup would be a fuel dot attached to a separate fuel line running to the third hole in the tank stopper. It looks like they give you plenty of metal tubing so a little extra fuel line would be the only other thing needed.
Old 04-24-2004 | 09:03 PM
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I got to fly Suitcase's Twist today. It was a lot of fun. The roll rate is very fast even on low rates. His 46fx did a good job hauling it straight up. This is one fun model.
Old 04-25-2004 | 03:48 AM
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I use fuel dots and a "T" into the carb line on all my planes, no problem at all. I have a Saito .56 that is inverted which means the carb is facing up and even with the throttle all the way closed fuel will fill the carb and drip out while I refuel, but it never floods the engine, as a matter of fact it saves me the trouble of having to prime it, I just turn it over a few times before I put the starter to it just to check for hydrolock, it never is. The only problem is I have to clamp the fuel line when I defuel or else it sucks ait through the carb and doesn't quite empty the tank.
Old 04-25-2004 | 12:35 PM
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Ran acroos your post looking at the twist myself. Saw you had a Saito 72. I am just curious what fuel you run in that engine. I use powerMaster 20/20. Just looking what others use. Just curious!
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Old 04-26-2004 | 07:48 AM
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Well, got mine ready to fly, but the weather didn't cooperate. It has an OS 50 sx on the front with a tru-turn spinner and 11x7 APC (12x4 wouldn't fit my spinner), and 4 cell 1450 NiMH pack over the tank against the firewall. No extra weight needed for balance. The balance goes nose down at 4 9/16 and tail down at 4 1/2. I may not get to fly it for two weeks now (going to top gun this weekend), but am looking forward to it from everyones reports here!
Old 04-26-2004 | 07:58 AM
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We flew my sons this weekend. Well named plane. Matt had a ball twisting & turning it all over the place. Plane was very tail heavy with a 600 mah bat. under the tank and that made it very pitch sensitive but the plane was fun none the less. Personally, I like the Sig Mayhem a lot better, but the twist fits in the car without breaking it down.
Old 04-28-2004 | 11:58 AM
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Has anyone used the Sato .72 on the Twist?
If so did you have to modify the plane for the throttle linkage and needle valve adjustment?
Would like to see some pictures if you have them.
Old 04-29-2004 | 12:45 PM
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anyone get this plane to harrier?
Old 04-29-2004 | 08:34 PM
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I just test flew my Twist today with a YS .63. I can sum it up in 4 words " I was not impressed". I've been flying a Sig Ultimate Fun Fly for 7 years, also with a YS .63 and the Ultimate is twice the plane that the Twist is. Soooooorry !!!! [:@][&o][:@]
Old 04-29-2004 | 10:17 PM
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I just picked up the plane and motor the other day ....with a YS 63S ....I havent started to build it yet ....Could you tell us the things you don't like about it ....Thanks JW
Old 04-30-2004 | 04:22 AM
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I guess maybe my expectations were very high after reading the posts here. I find if you try to hover (I'm not really good at it but I can hold my Ultimate pretty good) it falls either on it's back or to the left and there it no holding it there at all, even with full control throws. The roll coupling with the rudder is awful, in a KE or any manuver with rudder it makes the plane "twist" all over the place. Although it flys straight with no problem as soon as you pull straight up you immediately have to start feeding in down elev. and right rudder, the longer you go vertical the farther you have to push the sticks. I'm going to try a bit of down & right thrust on the engine, that might help. I found it very unstable to land, when you pull the throttle back the nose pitches up and it just wants to keep flying until all airspeed is gone, then wants to drop like a rock. A tight loop will make it snap like crazy, a sign of tailheavy but it's balanced at 4 1/2" and it does it with fuel tank full or empty. I don't like the upright engine, now the top of my plane gets full of goo instead of the bottom. Actually in 5 flights there was absolutlely nothing that I could find that I liked about the plane. The only good thing was the new YS .63 that I started for the first time, it started, idled and ran flawless right out of the box. This is the second one of these I have broken in over the last year and these engines are simply amazing, I've been flying 20 years and have never had engines run like these do right out of the box. Running very rich (for break in) the .63 will yank the plane straight up like it was shoot out of a cannon, can't say enough about these engines, incredible.

So there it is in a nutshell, maybe it's me, I don't know. I'm looking out the window and it looks like a good day so I'll give it another try, but I don't hold much faith. I had one other plane that went about the same way. In the late 80's after listening to all the hype I built a .60 sized Super Hots and was bitterly disappointed with that plane. One night I was trying to loop it through a limbo pole and it met it's demise, maybe I'll try the same"trick" again with the "Twist", after I put one of my old engines on it, Ha ! Ha !
Old 04-30-2004 | 04:51 AM
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i will be running a saito 72 gn. on mine but first i want to try my super tiger 51 ringed engine,, its the same weight as a 72 and its a rocket,, should be plenty,, let you know.
Old 04-30-2004 | 11:48 AM
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Thanks Don....I my not even build this plane....I have a GP Dazzler they look allot alike ..the Dazzler is nothing to write home about ...it sounds like the same flight characteristics.....thanks again....JW
Old 04-30-2004 | 12:47 PM
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Well I just returned from day 2 with the Twist. It was dead calm today and I must admit it flew better, but nothing like I expected. I'll fly it for a while and park it in the attic next to my Magic, another plane I didn't care for, but it was better than the Twist. I quess the only thing that lives up to my expectations time after time is my wife. God love her, anyone who would put up with my foolishness for all these years deserves Sainthood.
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Coyote,

I just routered out a profile on the cheek that outlines the .72 throttle linkage and a flex wire no problem. You need to remove enough cheek area to get the width. The .72 is a superior set-up vs. a 2 stroke, has more torque, and can swing a larger prop which will result in way better low alttitude in your face 3D! I float this thing right past me at walking speed then punch it up into a hover. I think the Saito .72 makes any plane it's mounted to special. The Twist could be lighter, it's too heavy for really contemporary3D stuff, but fun enough. Get the engine in, and get it in the air, you'll like it!
Old 04-30-2004 | 09:50 PM
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Has anyone put the Satio 72 in one? The instructions give a 4 1/4 distance from firewall to drive washer. They show a Evolution in the pictures. If someone got the 72 to fit that way let me know. The carb housing is hitting the motor mount and it looks like a bunch of that mount would have to come out. I've got more time on this than building the whole plane. If the 72 went further froward I don't think it will be a problem. balance may become a problem then. Anyway I'm sure I've overlooked the angle of he dangle somewhere. Someone let me know. Thx
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Old 04-30-2004 | 09:56 PM
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Did you mount the 72 at the 4 1/4 from the firewall as specified. Mine is hitting the motor mount!
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Old 05-01-2004 | 12:23 AM
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I just put an a little over an hour in build time and I can't believe how quickly this thing comes together. This is my first glow ARF and it seems super easy!!!
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