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Old 06-10-2006 | 03:53 PM
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My new toy is finally here, WOW this truck is nice, began break-in a bit earlier today and the only thing i can say is this engine is very LOUD. Hope the weather is going to be nice tomorrow , me and my son are going to the track race are MT2's
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Old 06-10-2006 | 04:28 PM
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To get use to the dept perception and the car going and coming toward you, me and my son went to the dollar store bought those cheap plastic orange cones place like 10 of them in line 10' apart and drove around those cones from the angles we had problem with, let me say after a couple of days of doing this the brains get use to it and now its like riding a bicycle.
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Thanks I thought that I'll set something up if the rain ever stops.
46u I was wondering why you'd go with the lst2 over revo, are you just a traxxas hater. I think I decided I'm either going to get one of them. I was lookig at them both earlier but like I said I only wanted to spend $250 or $300. If I want my girl to let me bash ecery weekend I need to get something for her to use. I think I'm going to increase the budget to $400. I've seen plenty of 2.5 revos for under that and a few used LST2 right around there. If anyone can give me some pros or cons about either. I checked the forums on each truck, but you get some many idoits posting stuff it's hard to figure out the facts.
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hi guys i have not been on in a while some may remember me from the troubles with my heavy duty diffs that kept breaking, after about 2 months of my car being in peices on my bedroom floor lol i finaly repaired it and upgraded a couple of things ( racing clutch and replaced all the bearings as they were f***ed ). so i am coming back to ask a question. and the question is does anyone here ever hear a sound like the gears have gone when they land a jump ( a clicking sound ), even if it is a small jump ? my gears have not gone again but i think this could be why they were going in the first place. i am using 4 shimms in both front and rear and running the OZ18cv-rx.

can anyone comment on this ?

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Old 06-10-2006 | 06:56 PM
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are you talking about the diffs or the spur? To answer your question I don't hear a clicking noise. Now since you have the same setup I do (mt2 .18cvrx) I'll ask you a question do you hear a constant rattling noise coming from the clutchbell area. I always here a rattling noise and it doesn't sound good but I've ran it through over 2qts and haven't had any probs with anything, It's just a noise that doesn't sound good but doesn't appear to be causing any probs. My other question is I've read a lot of peole shimming the diffs, I don't get it what part do you shim and which way back and forth or up and down. I haven't had any probs with my diff, but when I was burning up my spurs (mesh was set wrong, my fault) I took apart the front and rear diff they both looked perfect and packed with grease. Anyways sorry I couldn't help much, but maybe you could help me.
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and des what class do you run your MT2's in and also that Revo looks sweet.
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the clutch beel noise u are hearing could either meen that the bell is come away from the gear on teh bell (if it is a stock clutch bell) or it could be the bearing thing inside the clutch bell has broken or the screw that holds the clutch bell on the crank shaft has come loose. or infact it could also be your flywhell that has come loose. (if none of those then there could be a stone stuck near the flywheel and it is hitting it, but theres not much chance of that )

there is a pick of where to shimm the diffs a little while back. but if u cant find teh pic the shimms go between the bearing and the 38 tooth gear.
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ok thanks ahven't had the prob yet so I wasn't sure how to fix it. Does your clutchbell have any lateral play in it. Mine moves forward or back about 1mm. I tried putting more washers on the end screw to hold it tighter but then it doesn't rotate freely. And now that I'm thinking about it I have heard a click noise before from car but it's come from the slipper clutch area. I'm sure if you know how to shim the gears and replace all those parts you have your slipper set right, but maybe try adjusting that tighter or looser and see if noise goes away.
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i think my slipper is set right dont hear any clicking from it (that i know of anyway). and my clutch bell does not move at all ( but it is not tight up against the flywhell for anyone wondering if it is) but i am using a savage heavy duty clutch bell.
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Since its a 4wd we are going to run on the Unlimited MT class, i don't how we are going to do, running against those giant 1/8 scale should be fun. Going to stay away of those heavy weight or we are going to get crushed.[sm=bananahead.gif]

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Did you try to put a shim before you install your CB on the pilot shaft, in order=(pilot shaft,washer,bearing,CB,bearing,washer,screw)

(are you still running the RTR CB with the needle bearing)
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Old 06-10-2006 | 07:44 PM
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i think my slipper is set right dont hear any clicking from it (that i know of anyway). and my clutch bell does not move at all ( but it is not tight up against the flywhell for anyone wondering if it is) but i am using a savage heavy duty clutch bell.
I always adjust my slipper on the loose side to protect those expensive diff gears.
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and des are u saying that the slipper should click ? or it is just suppose to slide whitch mine kinda does but i have to push it hard before it starts slipping
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if you ear some clicks there is something wrong, its suppose to slide like you say, to test it i hold the spur gear put the truck on a nice gripping surface and push the truck down and forward if its set properly you should see the slipper slide a bit. ( i don't know if you understand what i'm trying to say here)

BTW four shims on the diff suonds about right
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Yeah I have the RTR bearing. Has that been my prob the whole time? I didn't understand why you had bearing twice my order (pilot shaft, washer, bearing, cb washer, screw). I just finally got my truck all together from yesterday when my flywheel came off and my clucthbell got jammed against spur gear. Well I'm starting a tally, everyone said all you need is the .18 cvrx and motor mounts, I guess people forget you need new washers and maybe new bearings, I just wished I knew so I could have put it together right the first time.

I just searched Tower hobbies for 15min, I can't find any other bearing other than a needle bearing set with 3 washers (not sure what third one is for. Could you please post a link to the bearing I need if in fact that is my prob. Well heres a pic I just took of my truck and my pup car was all set except for reciever and gas tank, since nothing has happened to it so far running like its running I'm going to keep on bashing until my order arrives (should be here by next Monday).
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Old 06-10-2006 | 09:28 PM
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46u may i ask what you think of a steelspurgear for my MT2 21SS, im running 80& of my time in sanddunes,soft sand ive stripped one diffpiniong(rear-steel) so now i have re-shimed my diffs and they are now bulletprof i dont have any problem "yet" with the spur, but what do you think

I run the stock plastic and do not have a problem with them. I even run stock plastic on my Savage and all my RC trucks with out a problem.
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Here a pic of what your going to need, BTW I ran the CB with the needle bearing on my son's MT2 for a long time before replacing it with the Savage set up. Hope this will help. The Z845 cone can be replace by the Z694 washer.
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Hey And_des, nice truck. But your revo, is that the stock engine, header and exhaust...? Was it the 3.3 and you simply replaced the engine with a bigger displacement sized engine block...? Looks really nice.

What did you think about the overal design of the truck and performance. BTW with mine, just a heads up that may wish to check just incase. When I was breaking in my revo there was a little yellow wire that connects from the EZ start system to the base of the engine, just like an earth wire but yellow. BE VERY carefull with this as the angle of the wire on mine was facing and touching the flywheel and on my forth breaking tank the wire wsa cut in two by the flywheel. here is a pic. Please look in my gallery as I cant post a pic on here for soome reason...? But just have a look at yours and make sure that there wire is facing away from the flywheel.

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if you ear some clicks there is something wrong, its suppose to slide like you say, to test it i hold the spur gear put the truck on a nice gripping surface and push the truck down and forward if its set properly you should see the slipper slide a bit. ( i don't know if you understand what i'm trying to say here)

BTW four shims on the diff suonds about right
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simienstr to post pic you need to click the post reply button onder the pages on this thread on left hand side of page. You can't just go to the bottom and type where you post a quick reply (like I'm doing now). And des are you sure I can replace the cone with that washer? I have plenty of those washers, maybe I'll just buy cone just incase. Do I need to replace my clutchbell to use those bearings? It looks like I do since they're 5x10 bearings. Will all savage clutchbells fit or are there special ones for MT2. Well I'll try and do some research, glad my order hasn't been placed yet, I'm still deciding on a new body.
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what's better the heavy duty clutchbell or racing one for bashing. Also should I really get the racing clutch. Will it really make a difference when I'm just bashing. I don't want to have to take the thing apart 4-5 times to try each setting. If someone told me the best setting and it is really better than regular clutch I'lll buy it. I run a 13t/52t What ones would anyone recommend I guess I'd try a 14t/52t just need to know if it HD or racing one, thanks for help and sorry for the ten millon questions.
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Thanks
No right out of the box I've replace the engine with the RB Concept TM323 REVO kit and got rid of the electric ignition system (now i got the pull start) , I read more bad things than good things about all Traxxas engines so thats why i replace it right away (personal choice). Only went thought one tank using the heat cycle method for break in and it when flawlessly had to preheat to engine the pitch is so tight. The Revo engineering is amazing hope its run as good as it looks and i will be happy with it.
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RB concepts 323 engine kit...is it a good engine...? What is the power output and size...? Like is it a .21, .26...? I was also thinking of replacing the engine but not the elecrtonic kit as the RZ start system although not perfect (what ever is..?) its very handy. I hat the pullstarts especially when I am either bashing or racing - mostly racing. Can you give eme link to the kit...thanks.

I was thinking of the Ofna .28 turbo head kit...but I have made no descisions yet as I want to keep this truck in the high line.

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Thanks jpep...yep, I do know how mate its just that my computer formate is not the same as the PC formate and I cannot place it in yet, could be a compatibility prob with the camera...? Not sure yet. Thanks though.



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simienstr to post pic you need to click the post reply button onder the pages on this thread on left hand side of page. You can't just go to the bottom and type where you post a quick reply (like I'm doing now). And des are you sure I can replace the cone with that washer? I have plenty of those washers, maybe I'll just buy cone just incase. Do I need to replace my clutchbell to use those bearings? It looks like I do since they're 5x10 bearings. Will all savage clutchbells fit or are there special ones for MT2. Well I'll try and do some research, glad my order hasn't been placed yet, I'm still deciding on a new body.
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Jpep all savage CB will fit, I use the heavy duty ones, I think you can use bearings on your CB but I don't know the size and it will be the flange type bearings, about he clutch at one point your going to replace it anyways so personally when its time I will just buy the racing type of clutch, i have try-ed before to find dose cone washer but no ones carry them, good for you if you can find them if not just used a regular washer.
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Thanks I thought that I'll set something up if the rain ever stops.
46u I was wondering why you'd go with the lst2 over revo, are you just a traxxas hater. I think I decided I'm either going to get one of them. I was lookig at them both earlier but like I said I only wanted to spend $250 or $300. If I want my girl to let me bash ecery weekend I need to get something for her to use. I think I'm going to increase the budget to $400. I've seen plenty of 2.5 revos for under that and a few used LST2 right around there. If anyone can give me some pros or cons about either. I checked the forums on each truck, but you get some many idoits posting stuff it's hard to figure out the facts.

I would definitely go with the LST2 over the Revo. You are correct I am not a fan of Traxxas and I have my reasons why. But run what ever makes you happy.
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Jpep all savage CB will fit, I use the heavy duty ones, I think you can use bearings on your CB but I don't know the size and it will be the flange type bearings, about he clutch at one point your going to replace it anyways so personally when its time I will just buy the racing type of clutch, i have try-ed before to find dose cone washer but no ones carry them, good for you if you can find them if not just used a regular washer.

To put the Savage clutch bell use none flanged bearings size 5x10x4 and are these beveled washer you are talking about?
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/WTI0001P?&I=LXLZY6
Has the same part number as in the MT2 .18 SS manual if I am not mistaken.





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