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Hi All,

I was given a Quest G2 by a friend who is helping me to get started in pattern. I will be installling a YS 120. He also gave me a Hyde mount to use. He warned me that I may need /should use a nose ring. Any ideas on how to make one? Is it possible to even use this mount with this airframe with the cowl that is supplied? I could sure use some advice as I am anxious to get started.

Hey Beast1910,

Here's an article that may help.

http://www.geocities.com/beaton90/quest3d.html

My Quests use the "A" type mount that does not need a nose-ring. The ARI mount has an integral nose ring. Either will work. there is not much room or support for a nose-ring to be added to the fuselage. You can't fit one to the cowl. It is not strong enough. The mods shown in the "extracts" are for a Quest-1

The Quest-2 has the firewall in the right place. Mine did not need any modifications for a Hyde mount.

Regards,

Eric.

I would suggest buying the Hyde mount that includes an integrated nose ring or the Hyde Mount that does not require a nose ring.

If you tried to attach a nose ring to the cowl there would not be sufficient strength and the vibration would just tear up the cowl.

I've seen a nose ring that was built to attach to the firewall but it looked pretty Rub Goldberg to me.

I had a Quest 1. Its a nice flying model. I used the Dave Brown soft mount for a YS91. The Dave Brown mount is OK but the Hyde mount is the best way to go and worth the extra money IMHO.

Hey there,

I will go with the Hyde "A" mount. Thank you so much to all of you for your help in lending your knowledge and experience. Should I have any further questions, I now know where to look

Almost finished. I put a ST 90 in it with the head at the 7 oclock position that makes the muffler
centered on the bottom. Put the rudder and elevator servos all the way up front. used a carbon fiber arrow shaft for an elevotor pushrod, the throttle servo is on the motor mount. the battery is up against the fire wall. the receiver is on top of the fuel tank compartment. I moved the motor out to 140 mm. but it should all work. It looks likes it going to be right at 8lb. So it looks like it will be a good intermediate/pattern trainer for me.

Jabowil-RCU -
Would you comment on the advantage of the Hyde mount over the stock two piece T-mount that comes with the plane? I'm putting a YS 110 in a QG2. Nose ring is a new term to me - I assume it is structure to support the cowl behind the spinner??
Thanks
Seth

Hi -

Nice thread. After watching one of our local experts fly his Quest 1, I asked Santa for a G2 for Christmas. Guess I was a good boy, 'cause I got one . I plan on using an OS91FX with an Ultrathrust muffler in the belly. Not sure of servos yet. Thoughts on CGs and such? Tail or fuse servos, whatever? FG the LG mounts in place ? Thanks.

ps - If you want to see a pretty SPA airplane, look up my post in the Classic pattern section.

Thanks,

Rich
TeamVortex Racing
Aerobatics Division

Hi - I've answered my own question about the advantages of the Hyde Mount - Sorry guys, I should have done that first. I understand the advantage is reducing structural fatigue and current draw. Sounds like the cowl is stiff/light enough to function without a ring.

Eric,

Could you give me some pointers on measuring, reenforcing, and moving the firewall back. I am using a YS 120 with "A" type Hyde mount and I am way too forward of the cowl opening. Also, exactly how did you mount the tank under the canopy? I saw your pictures on the website. they look good. Just asking how to go about it.

Unfortunately I recently lost my D-drive that contained all of my construction photos on the Quest-1.

I am guessing that you have a Quest-2?

I might be easier if you call me on (856) 988-9184. EST

Regards,

Eric.

You can find Eric's instructions and some of his photo's on the Quest 1 here:

http://www.geocities.com/beaton90/

Look to the left of the page for the link for the Quest.

Dave

One answer is that if you maintain the down and side thrust of the original firewall, when you move it back it will be corrrect

Eric.

I have the Quest G2 instructions on my drive. If you need them, send me a pm with an e-mail address.

LarryC

YS110 continues to be hard to find on the shelf. Does anyone with Saito experience and have an opinion about fitting a Saito 125 to the Quest G2? Or perhaps another good engine choice?
Thanks!

Sethhunter, Good question on the FA125 I picked one up over the weekend and then ordered the Quest last night. I have sent many email to Ultra RC and they have answered them all. They told me the FA125 would be a good choice. I have yet to find out about the wing servos, will a standard fit or will it leave a bump in the covering?

I madened my Ultra RC Yak Sunday with Saito 82 and just loved it, Got 5 flights in then flew it into the ground.
Was doing a high speed snap into Lomkevak into waterfall thing manover when herd a thud and battery shot out the canopy. Ended up in hight speed KE turn to gear, got to watch it do 3 1/2 circles before digging in. Had to dig up the Saito (ok) the wings held up well, and a quick epoxy job they may find there way onto a profile. May have to try there Katana 50 next, but man the Yak was a rush!!!!

Thanks chadvone - sorry to hear about Yak... but at least the battery pack ejector seat worked (sorry - couldn't resist)! Specs on the Saito 125 sound good. Weight is low. I don't know how much prop ground clearance it leaves as I haven't started assembling yet.

Seth,
I was one of the lucky ones that got a 1.10 from the last shipment.
I also have a Quest 2 to assemble it on.
I would think the Saito would have plenty of power.
The only thing you may have to do is add some kind of pump/regulator if you want to put the tank at the CG location instead of the forward compartment.
I have a Saito 1.00 on a UCD 60 and have had no problems running it inverted on just muffler pressure.
JLK

Hi Jlkonn - you raised a very good point. The only pump I found so far is the Perry oscillating pump. Does anyone know if that will work well with the Saito FA125 with the tank back at the cg? I'm doubtful and thinking if that's the choice, I'd put the tank up front and live with the balance shift.
Thanks
Seth

Seth,
I don't know anything about them but have read here at RCU that folks use something called a Cline regulator with much success.
You may find something by doing a search.
If I find it I will repost.
Good luck!
JLK

Seth,
This thread has some info...
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_38...tm.htm#3860059
Hope this helps!
JLK

JLK
Thanks for the reference. My understanding is the VP30 and other similar 2 cycle pumps wont work on 4 strokes because 4st crankcases are vented, hence the oscillating perry for 4 st that has some spring-mass to pressure the tank using engine vibration. Doesn't sound like it would produce enough pressure for a tank way back in the plane. The regulators just meter out fuel from the tank that's pressurized by a pump or muffler. I'll have to rethink going 2 stroke, changing the tank location, or put the plane on a shelf until I can find a YS. Anyone - please correct me if I'm wrong or there's another option.

I finial finished the pane, it balance at about 175mm back from the leading edge of the wing and that is with a heavy brass prop nut under the spinner. so I went out early this morning to break in the motor and fly before the wind pick up. It was about 10-15kts and a cross wind,
it seem like it was dropping so I tried a flight, and would you know it, the wind pick up.
The ST90 ran real good and pulled the plane around quit nice. From 1/2 throttle pulled to straight up and added full throttle and the plane just when straight up. I don't think it is enough motor to do all the 3d stuff I see people do. But the combo is just great for me, and it flys just like I wanted it to, a perfect intermediate plane. I cannot figure out how to get my D/R on rudder to work on my JR radio so I only used a little Rudder deflection, but it was enough to do a very nice knife both upwind and downwind. I did one of those thing where you add full down and let the tail flip over the top. It worked. I am very happy
Terry www.tgracing.com

If any of you QUEST'IES are @ the WRAM show in NY on the Sat., keep an "ear out" for a meeting-room announcement.

IF a room opens up, I am holding a meeting for QUEST owners and interested parties to swap knowledge, experiences and triming/building tips etc.

I will have some WRAM show special deals for those in attendance, so try and find me whether we get a room or not.


Regards,

Eric.