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Old 05-01-2005 | 02:17 PM
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Maiden flight yesterday for my new .46 UCD. Perfect. First it lands like a feather, slow, light, and floaty but stable, seems difficult to pull the landing gear out with this type of landing. I have a Magnum 70rfs 4 stroke with a 14x6 prop. On my second flight I hoovered for the first time and (to me) it pulled out of the hoovers (and missed attempts) with ease. I flew it mostly slow as it was intended to be flown, however I did use the throttle straight and level a few times and it flys fast enough to get from one point to the next for the next trick. My tricks were at about 50'. Even when it fully stalled I was easily able to recover with the low trows and this engine. If you want to do acrobatics at 10' or below and are not skilled enough to not make mistakes, I could see wanting a bigger engine. But, on my second day (today) I was hoovering at 20' with no problems. My advise... unless you have alot of experience with 3-D and understand all that the engine size will affect, stay with in the reccomended range. I am not against over powering, I have an Ultra Sport .46 with a .91 in it. I flew it first with a .50. Just know what your getting into before you spend your money, you can always put a larger engine in later.
Old 05-01-2005 | 06:10 PM
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v twin 1k, all the online stores offer exhaust deflectors that do not reduce power output.

acolvard, great plane huh, i just maidened mine about a week ago and i love it, like you said it lands like a feather, i flew mine about 10 times today and it was flawless,great day!!i did break off my lg but it was a landing in the wind and it droped about 4 ft and i was only 2ft off the ground, and barry helped me out with the spoileron landing and it really helped alot into the wind. im glad you had a good day.oh and i love this 100 in this thing

GOOD DAY!!!
Old 05-01-2005 | 06:34 PM
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Hi guys,

I have that exact APC prop that you guys suggested, and I am still running my motor pretty rich for break in, it will hover, but (and I know its me) I just cant get the thing dialed in.
Of course having said that it is only my 10th flight in 25 years, so maybe I am expecting a little too much from myself.

I assume I have to be way quicker on my response to keep it stable, it wants to drop off a bit, and I am sure I am just too slow responding to keep it steady. I have the cg seat dead on at 6" from the LE. I am thinking of getting some digital servos for the beasty..we will see.

But can I just tell ya, it is the most fun I have had while being vertical. This is a dynamite plane. Now I have to figure out what my next plane is going to be. I doubt I will get tired of this very quickly, but you should always have something in the works. I also found the tail wires at my local hobby shop. (thanksGjeffers for the link). They were the same cost because I didnt have to pay shipping as that link you gave me. The look great and seem to work very well.

Good flying

Tom

Old 05-01-2005 | 06:37 PM
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hy

I have only 10 flys with my UCD and its very greate, I´m learning hover and a can still 10 seconds after get out of hover, the CG it´s 6 " and i don´t know why when i want to do a harrier i can´t put it with the tail down, when i do flat spins it is´n horisontal, i want to put the CG more rear but...........mmmmmmmm............no.
I put a OS AX .46 with 12/4, in hover with 1/2 throttel the plane slowly slowly go back, and with full throttel begun to get up on vertical fly (slowly).

About the 10 seconds, a lot of times i ask about the hover tecnics, and all said the same. PRACTICE...PRACTICE....PRACTICE.. WELL I´M PRACTICE AND SOON I CAN SAID 20 SECONDS 30 SECONDS....

I want to do beautifull harrier and very flat spins, if you have a comment.............

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Old 05-01-2005 | 07:27 PM
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Mine flat spins well - I just do a rolling dive, full aileron to the left, then slam in full down elevator and full right rudder(still holding full left aileron) - then I add in throttle and slowly move the aileron stick to nearly full right. Every plane likes different things with the ailerons in a flat spin.

I can get it totally flat in an inverted spin - the nose is actually higher than the tail but it doesn't climb. Upright it will usually be slightly nose down in the spin. I'm using a Saito .91 with an APC 14x6, different engine/prop combinations might cause it to flat spin differently.
Old 05-01-2005 | 07:37 PM
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Hi Tom good to hear you are liking this plane, did you repair it from the trip???this is a fun plane,and dont feel slow because im not great either, i feel confident and can do about a 20 sec hover and then i lose it , i guess my forte is flat spins(picked them right up and inverted seems to be easy for me but the rest is still a job

****cano, hi, good to hear from Chile,on the flat spins with a cg of 6in it should be great, so you might need more elevator(all you can get) and when your in it and spinning(all the rudder you can get too!) add a little throttle to get the tail down and add ailerons to keep it level.let me know how this works and if you still have problems let me know and ill get exact measurement on surface deflections if you need!

good luck
Old 05-01-2005 | 10:23 PM
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Ok, I've made my decision. I'm putting the 100 in the 46 and I'm gonna try it one more time. gjeffers, do you like your 46 better than the 60? What mount did you use for the engine, the one from the 60? I'm certain you had to move the blind nuts to make it fit, right? What size of tank did you go with? Now I have 11 oz and I can go about 13 minutes total which is what I like to fly but I like a little left over so I can crash closer to the field. On my 100 I had a 15 1/2 oz and I could go about 15 minutes total, 13 minute flight and plenty of time to land. What do YOU have under your painted canopy? I think I'm gonna go with the 15x6 prop. That's what I use on the Ultra Stick at 6lbs 8 ozs. It flies it fine with plenty of "bite". I can't believe I'm doing this. I've spent the last year posting here "do not over power your airplane" now I'm doing it. Just what I need an overpowered slow flying UCD. Anyways, I should have the changes done by the end of this week or next. My work is getting busy and I can't fly all day everyday any more.

acolvard, Believe me, you can rip the landing gear off this plane. In fact you are the only person I've heard of that hasn't done it, YET. No matter what you do, it will happen. Just glue it back in place and you'll be fine.

Oh, after my most recent 'EVENT" I suggest to the club that the runway was a little to high. They said they'd take it under advisement and get back with me later if they could lower it 10 feet or so. I'll wait and see.
Thanks,
Barry
Old 05-02-2005 | 09:42 AM
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Gjeffers, yes, I had to break the left stab down further then fill the breaks with 5 min epoxy. When I had them filled well, I lifted the stab back up and propped some stuff under it to hold it while it dried, making sure that the stab was aligned. Then I had to recover that side, the covering had ripped so I elected to put chrome monokote in place of the usual covering. If I keep doing that for every repair it will end up looking like a stainless steel U-Can-Do. Then I attached the wires. It few perfectly nothing changed at all, so I must have aligned the stab correctly.

There was a guy that came to the field Saturday with a trainer. He was getting help from a good pilot in the club. To be honest, after watching that trainer fly, I can't help but think that the U-Can-Do on super low rates would actually be better than some of these things that guys are trying to learn on. It sure lands a heck of a lot slower than that trainer did.
Old 05-02-2005 | 11:32 AM
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goldenclan... Yes the wood props sure are a lot lighter, taking a lot of
load off the engine and reducing spool up time.. I tried wood props
before and liked it, but it seemed that something would always happen
to take a little wood off of them, be it me or the pebbles on the runway.
Matter fact on our fly in, on about my 4th flight I set the plane on the
runway do my normal run up of the engine and hear a pebble being
thrown... After landing I see a gouge in the prop:-(... But it still works,
but getting an order for another one along with a higher pictched one..

Liberator... I've told a few people the same about the UCD as a trainer
only bad thing... She won't take much abuse:-(

Barry... Let us know how the lowering of your runway goes, I can't see
why some sort of concession be made to your simple request!!... I also
put that question to my club after my flat spin landing... They told me it
was not the runway's fault, and that I was just a bit too far out, And the
next time to stay in towards the runway a bit more where they had
requested and received the run-off wash, just off the side of the runway
for exactly the purpose of a ditched flat spin landing and to give more
ground clearance to better pull out.... So our club works with us on things
as such, As we speak, their working on getting us stands so as to see the
plane better once it goes below ground level in the wash.... Man I
just love this Club!!!

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raideron, Sounds like you've got a decent club. Mine is ok but a little less responsive. They made some claim about I was always asking for something. But they are still working on the "lowering the runway" thing because would benefit others, not just me. Maybe I shouldn't have but I bribed them. Yep, I told the club president I'd repair 4 of his favorite props. (he had just recently broken a couple) We'll see if he can be bought.
Thanks,
Barry
Old 05-02-2005 | 11:59 AM
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Yea Barry, Sometimes you have to wheel and deal to get what you want..
Matter fact, You wouldn't want to wheel and deal on a new plane your
waiting for????? Say on the same tone as I got my my Yak for??? Just
thought I'd ask:-) Hey you have a great day!!! Does that repair also
work on gouged props... It's just a little nick tho, So maybe not huh??
Old 05-02-2005 | 12:36 PM
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raideron, what size of yak did you get? Flew it yet? Who made it? Sorry for the questions. But seen a few that I liked.
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Has anyone actually put a 46 in this plane? I have an OS 46 AX and ordered the UCANDO this weekend. My Somethin Extra met an untilmely demize due to pilot error. I have been flying 4 years now and was looking to upgrade from the Somethin Extra this year. I am convincing myselft that is was a unconscious decision to crash the Somethin Extra.

I would like to put atleast a 70 4 Stroke in it, but that may have to weight till Father's day. For now I will be happy to just have some fun flying it like a sport plane. Just want to see if anyone has put a 46 in it and enjoyed it.
Old 05-02-2005 | 01:34 PM
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Wlecome to the fourm. If you need any props repaired, just talk to Barry. You will have a blast with the plane, just some of the 3d tricks with the 46 will be hard to do. I have a 70 rfs magnum in mine and it flies great! Some of the guys in the fourm have put larger engines in the plane like .91 and 100. The biggest problem with the ucando is the landing gear. If the landing is a little too hard, pop out come the gear and the block that the landing gear connects to. Very easy to fix with some epoxy or gorilla glue. I also put some metal rods thru my block to help. On low rates, and gentle thumbs, it is a easy flying and landing plane. Switch to high rates and watch out! Keep the speed down and have a ball with the plane! Let us know how the maiden goes for the plane!
Old 05-02-2005 | 01:41 PM
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sctcrash,

I have a 50 OS SX in mine and it does pretty well. You can't quite throttle(muscle) out of everything, but it will go straight up forever. Throttle control is the word of the day on this, I fly mine at half throttle almost all the time and it is a ton of fun.
You may be a little 3D challenged, but I think you will still love the plane.

Tom
Old 05-02-2005 | 01:42 PM
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Excellent, it will be good to get a feel for the plane on low rates with my 46 in it. How do you like the Magnum, i hear they are a pretty good 4 stroke for a reasonable price?

Also will i need to get a pits muffler or will I have to butcher the cowl with the Standard AX box muffler?
Old 05-02-2005 | 01:46 PM
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For the money, you cannot go wrong! likes to load up when mounted inverted, but have not had a dead stick with it.(yet)
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Hey golden, i was atleast at 20 feet inverted when my Somethin Extra bought it. Stupid thumbs.
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Been there and done that. Lost my 40 size cap in the sun and pancaked it in to the ground "figure 9" It is almost finished being repaired. Ran out of trim tape and covering, so just used some clear packing tape!
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I never go to the field without my packing tape. It is the duct tape of the RC Flying wold, 1001 uses.
Old 05-02-2005 | 06:04 PM
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WOW this place is getting busy!!!!

Barry,alright my man, you will absolutly love it,its not as overpowered as everyone thinks but it will do anything you wantand yes i do like the 46 better once i got used to the more active movements, and i did use the 60 size mount from my ucd(new one) i mounted it as far back as possible,the carb screw is almost touching the lower left mount screw, check it before you do your final drill so they dont touch.also i raised my thrustline a little(look at pic below) and it worked great . i did it to relieve fuel flooding probs and it worked totally, no flooding at all!will sit there all day full and no flooding. flight time with 8oz is 9 min with plenty of fuel left,11oz(i should get mine fri when my son arrives here with it )should be a good 12 min because of low rpms needed most of the time,(my fuel consumption is less with this plane by a lot).i have a load of sailboat fuel under the canopy and you will love the 15x6maybe you cluld get up on a soapbox Barry, that might help you see.

Tom, a chrome ucd[8D] i agree about the trainer idea but Ron is right, i cant imagine flying this plane and landing it when i taught myself,would have been ugly.my h9 alpha was pretty tough.

sctcrash,here is some dumb thumbs also
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Old 05-02-2005 | 06:17 PM
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almost forgot Barry, but on the blindnuts i had to bend the edge on the two that border to close to the firewall gussits on the close side (drivers side),you know what i mean!!!! that way you dont have to do any removal.solid ad a rock[>:]
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UCANDO

O. S. AX .46 APC 12/4 MAYBE SOON I NEED MORE ENGINE, NOT YET.
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Old 05-02-2005 | 09:33 PM
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goldenclan.. I bought a used 68" E.F.Yak, It was in perfect shape, well
before that D_m UPS did what they did to it:-(... So no I never flew it:-(
I need to replace the canopy, replace/fix the elvators/rudder... But I
may just get another once they get in stock... After the heart break of
seeing what UPS did to my used "new" dream plane It came out a
sweetheart deal... And I mean SWEETHEART deal And they sent
me the plane back too
I only hear good about this plane... Only neg. is she does not like a lot
of wind, and the canopy screw down is not the greatest, but other than
that she is put together good!!
She flys great on my AFP.. I guess thats good but, I'm not sure because
I have the UCD 46 on the sim also and I could not even get close to
hovering it pass a few seconds, but at the field it's so easy along with
everything else???

EL ****CANO... She looks great!! Have fun!!!!

sctcrash... Welcome... Have fun, and let us know how you like it once
she's all together!! She'll fly great with the 46.... Just keep her a bit
higher until you get more cubes... The Mag 91 4c is a great engine
with Great service if needed.... I almost picked up another when they
were on sale for 149...

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Well, I'm back from my fishing vacation. Man!! Am I glad to be back. [X(] Funny, I used to like trout fishing. [:-] Hmmmm........
I got a few flights in before the trip and the last of the two the engine shut off in flight and the UCD landed kind of hard and broke out the firewall. Other than the cowl breaking that's all that happened. The firewall just popped right out. So it definately does pay to reinforce that sucker in. It's all back together now and ready to fly. I do have to find out why the engine shut off. I'm thinking it leaned out somehow...................
Looks like the thread really picked up some people while I was gone...............


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