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Brian,
Yes, not a problem. Please just request it in your letter, and please copy this thread into it, highlighting this post to remind the techs that i requested your model be hand-checked prior to shipment and double boxed.

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I plan to use four Futaba 9206's that I picked up at a **great** price before National Hobby Supply went under. I have 4 of those. I like the idea of a single pull-pull rudder setup and one 9206 should do the job (since it's more than two 60 ozs combined!) - so for now it's most likely (2) 9206 on elevator, (1) 9206 on rudder and ?? on aileron. Probably 9202's or HS-5625's that I'll pull off another plane.

As for engine - still undecided!

Hey guys!!

I got my GP extra 300 from Tower a few weeks ago, and then started this thread, I would have never dreamed it would take off like this!

Personally,...my aircraft was almost perfect except for a trim mismatch on the stab, GP promptly sent me a new one.

I'd like to say thanks to all of you guys and to AnnMarie for your input on this issue.

Swill I see that you are going to put PULL PULL on the Rudder.

I noticed some others also going to do this.

How are you going to do this as the plane is already covered and i dont see how you are going to be able to run the wires or cables or whatever you want to call them through the fuse and how are they going to exit the tail and also were are you going to mount the servo?

Any pics of how this is being done posted here would be GREAT!

Wouldnt it make more sense to put one strong torque wise servo in the tail with a short control wire than have a long pull pull system running through the fuse as less chance of flutter and problems?

Im kind of new so excuse these comments if they are all wrong im just looking for some input on this as I want to set this beautiful plane up the best that I can for a long lasting and enjoyable plane to fly.

Jeff

Hey SirSid

Check out posts #124 and 125 for the answer to your question on the "pull-pull" rudder

I plan on doing the same thing, and making this bird the best it can be.

Pull-Pull is the way to go UNLESS you need tail weight. No one has a plane done yet that I know of with gas. I would not cut the rudder servo covering and completely build the plane. Mount your engine and see what you need. If you end up needing 8 oz of tail weight then add the two rudder in ther tail. If the CG is close go pull-pull. That is what I am doing.

Chris

SirSid,....

Did you check out those two posts??.....You may want to follow qspilot's advice first,....mount the motor first! THEN check to see where the weight needs to go, sorry about that I should have remembered that.

Thanks qspilot!!! I'm sure i'll be emailing you again soon with more questions.

X300 pilot,

I am leaving for a 6 day trip this afternoon. No building for a while. I have to go fly the big planes. I may be able to check my email if I am not too busy.

Chris

ok QS

have a good trip, fly safe , and good luck

I got mine here: http://www.litepilots.com

It's 28% and I'm going to have to cut the "X" off the canopy rail bottom and make a well for her to sit in. Better than cutting half her body off.

The pilot figure has very curly blond hair. It doesn't appear to be real hair so my plan to take it to a beauty school and get a "Wagstaff" style is out.

Contrary to what the litepilots ad says the pilot does not come with sunglasses. I have attached a photo from their website that shows "Marilyn".

I'm making some mirror aviator sunglasses (1/16" ply, chrome monokote, brass tubes and some wire) to help dress it up a bit.

I got a "most recent Patty Wagstaff" graphics set (she switches sponsors a LOT!) from Model Graphics. Contact Denny here if interested: [email protected] He will also make an instrument panel if you send him a cardboard template. I'm still undecided about that...there isn't a lot of space at the front of the cockpit module.

Anybody going with a smoke system? My Fox is already plumbed for it, but I've never done it. Any suggestions?

Don

Hattend,

Thanks for the info on the pilots

I'm going to smoke mine too with a Brison 3.2 for power, but I have never done it either, so let me know what you find out.

This post has over 1000 replies and is 9 pages long but it seems No One has flown this plane yet.

Wow.

Joe Brannon

yeah that's true JB....I started this thread about two weeks ago when I finally got my plane in from Tower. Just working out the "kinks"...that's why we are here.

Do you have one on order??

If I would have had all the "stuff" I needed to complete the plane before it arrived I would have had a flight before winter closed in. But I ordered everything (servos, engine, props, pilot, graphics [not really needed but more up-to-date]) after I got a look at the plane.

I'm sure somebody will have one in the air over the next weekend (crossing fingers).

Don

I have been reading all of the threads on this site for the past few days. As I waited for my kit to make the long trip from Chief's Aircraft, I was wondering if my kit will have as many defects as many of you have experienced. I wasted no time in taking everything out of the box for a complete inspection. Overall things looked pretty good. Wing tube very tight but can work thru this. Canopy does not match the rest of the fuse. It is darker but no big deal. One real concern is the covering in front of the vertical stab. It has rather large wrinkles in front and the sides of the stab. It appears some wood is missing on the right side in the fuse. Has anyone else had this problem.

I am attaching a couple of photo's and hope you can see what I am talking about. I can email a photo if anyone needs to have a better look.

Thanks for all of the good info on this ARF and hope we have a report of a first flight soon.

One more photo

Looks like some shipping damage. Like it took a hard hit from the top of the fin and crushed the top of the fuse. Does it move at all?

Contact GP, ASAP. Hope they have lots of spare fuselages.

If any good will be coming out of all these kits with shipping damage it will be all the "slightly damaged" spare parts you will be able to aquire on the Tower "Scratch and Dent" page

Radar

Looks like a covering issue to me, contact GP right away and they will fix it. Mine for the most part was pretty good, I just had a striping mismatch on mine and that was it. Hopefully they will learn something from this. I think the MAD rush to get these on the market was too much for GP, mistakes are bound to happen anyway, and even more when in a rush.

"Patty has flown"!!

I got in my first flight on my G.P. Patty Wagstaff Extra 300 yesterday (10-9-02) afternoon and it was excellent. I'm experiencing some extremely annoying servo glitching (not the planes fault) so the test flight was only a few minutes but enough time to recognize this is an exceptionl airplane, in my opinion. Very easy and precise, a dream to fly. Rolls were clean and axial. Four point roll was very "crisp". Keep a little power in on landing and it's a breeze. Because of some servo glitching I didn't have time to try other manuevers but this plane felt solid and I'm sure it will "do it all".

Heres's a recap of my setup:
OS BGX 3500 (2.1cu.in.) glow engine with a Bisson Pitts muffler
18x10 (3) blade Majeclik prop with a Tru Turn spinner
Weighs in at 14.5 lbs.
Digital servos
Balance is right on the recommended number and appears perfect.

It's a winner, you guys are gonna love it!!

Craig

Thanks for the news Craig!!! This is great news all these posts and nobody has flown it yet! Im sorry to hear you had a servo prob. What kind of servos were you using and have you diagnosed the exact problem?

I changed my powerplant from the Saito 180 to a Brison 3.2 w/pitts style muffler. Dunno what prop to use maybe 22x10?

Hey Craig!!! Wow man thanks for the news from me too!!! I have been waiting to hear how it flys!! That's awesome news!!

SirSid let me know how it goes,....I had originally planned to use a brison 2.4 but decided to use the 3.2 after reading the manual.
So I would be VERY interested in know how it balances with this engine.

Keep in touch!!

The BGX-3500 weight is 49 oz without a muffler. Add 6 oz for the muffler. That is close to the weight of my BME 44. It weight is 59 oz with the engine, muffler, ingition, and battery.

RH1,

Did you do anything special to get the 14.5 LBS weight? Did the plane required any lead to balance? I am glad someone has finally flown this plane!

Chris

the brison 2.4 is around 2.75 lbs with the muffler I believe and the 3.2 is 3.25 lbs.....the balance should be decided after the engine is mounted.

Does that sound about right qspilot??

Just looked at the ZDZ numbers...the 50 is 3.37lbs (about 53oz) with the ignition & plug, no battery or muffler. Sounds about the same as the BGX. They say it will run a 22 OR 23 X 10 OR 12 prop!

Looks like the ground clearance might call for a 3 blade.

Can you inagine that on a 15 or 16 pound Extra?

Are the motors in stock... NO!

Are my numbers right? I hope so...