I think its me age [&:],

still got some other pics from the comp left to send

Nope thats a harrier roll!!

Going to look at the zip file.

In a mo?

4th on the zip from archie titled "140elec tqroll"

This one I hope (still got some no ones seen yet)

http://rc-b25.freewebspace.com/c/elec4.avi

Graham sorry mate!!!!!

TORQUE ROLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AS in model pointing upwards doing not much!!! LOL

Weather is so fine here Im gonna have to go flying again tomorrow afternoon

More time in cloud capiche land !

The weather was great for flying today too,and tomorrow its going to be 28 degrees! I would be out doing full size aerobatics instead of school if it wasnt for my grumbling teachers!

Luke, tell me about it. Only it is the office for me.

Been very busy in the office, but the Capiche is still coming along. Helps that the Girlfriend wanted to watch Sex in the City on Friday, then has been watching her new Pride and Predjudice DVD (oh Mr Darcy!)

So I have squeezed in a few hours. Wing is now nearly complete, just centre sheeting and cap strips to go. Try to get that done on Thursday. I seem to have built it without any warps, which is good, due to careful checking and the use of lots of pins to hold it in place while sheeting.

Three points to note:

- The leading and trailing edges are CNC cut along with everything else. A bit over the top on the whole, but I'm not complaining. Where is does cause a problem is that they are exactly the right size. It would have been easier if they were say 1/4 inch too long to make lining up easier when glueing to the wing. I managed to get both false leading edges wrong, and they are only half stuck onto R2 on each side.

- The trailing edge is not quite straight (looking in plan, ie from above). Not quite sure what has caused this, ie whether it is me or not (probably!). My only concern is that it is the same rib (R3) out by the same amount on each side. It is only about 2mm, if that, but is enough to be noticable when looking down the trailing edge. Easy to sand out when I sand the trailing edge though, so no worries.

- I screwed up the cutting of the trailing edge sheeting. After sheeting the front of the wing, you are left with two sheets, to be cut into 4 1" strips each. I got my 1 metre rule and cut down it, then discovered it is 1 1/4". This means I don't have enough to make the ailerons. I'll have to pick up another sheet of 1/16" at the weekend, I think I have some at my parents.

I'll post photos once wing and ailerons completed. Total of about 6 hours so far on the wing, so not long at all. All very straight forward. Would have been quicker/easier if I had a proper building board, rather than fiddling about on the floor![&:]

So coming along well, 2 1/2 weeks since it arrived, and most of it completed. Hope to be able to enter in the best dressed comp once done. Probably still 3 1/2 weeks away from that.

unfortunatly the sticker sheet doesn't contain the FedEx logos, or the IS logos at the correct size and colours, other wise i would of had one.


Sprink, when did you buy your kit? after i did mine and reported it the CNC wing parts where cut over lenght to allow for the printing variances. same variance might have also pushed your ribs out a fraction causing the wobble. personaly i'd like to see little tabs on the bottom of the ribs, front and rear, which meet the plan so the ribs are perfectly lined up.. sheet the top of the wing, then turn over, cut off the tabs and sheet the bottom. Just makes sure the wing had no warps anywhere.

Philly, I ordered mine just after you finished yours. I suspect that either mine came from the same batch, or before they got a chance to change anything.

No major problem, good to see there are still improvements being added (more than you get from most manufacturers)

As for the ribs, as you say, if they are not quite on straight it will push them out of line.

come on guys, rate your Capiche, it's plane of the moment right now
http://www.rcuniverse.com/product_gu...fm?kit_id=2579

Luke. A small point but the canopy position Q you raised??

I looked at my mk1 and mk 2 I prefer the canopy further forward. Cant say I noticed a jot of differance on knife edge though.

Sprink. Apart from a cock up on rib 8 which had the 1\4" slot at the rear .67mm off line for the first 50 kits!!

I have built several (as you can imagine) and never faced the problem you have just described???

I had one guy tell me the tongues on the former sides did'nt fit the holes in the fuzz. Never had that problem either??????? I think he must have been trying to make space for his epoxy

Phil. I know what you mean about the tabs!! I ummed N arred about it?? Problem is grain direction IMHO. It causes more problems than it saves. If I remember you had NO aileron trim from your first flight?? So where did you have the problem?

the grain didn't effect the Bug tabs which as you can imagine for a thick symertrical section wern't the smallest, they were about 15mm wide from soft 1/16th balsa.
i do have some trim in, very noticable when looking at the root from the rear, then again i've not balanced it lenghtwise yet, as the side that was heavy is compensating for torque anyway i spose. i just didn't find the jigs the easiest thing in the world.. work great in the middle and tips, but it's all too easy to misaline later.. i ended up sheeting it by removing them and pushing the TE down flat on the bench, that way it should all be straight.. good thing theres no wash out. i find tabs also help to sheet as the wing is still stuck to the plan and the balsa moves, not the wing.

best for doing wash out was how my Outlaw is built, the LE and TE are WAY!!!!! over sized.. you cut them about 2" deep, then draw a line given on the plan... you then glue the ribs with the center points touching that line, one perfect washed out wing and it's in its own frame you can use either way up. the only downside is you have to be careful when sheeting, but it's the best i've ever used.

Malcom, not a major problem, probably me anyway. Just odd I managed it on the same one.

One the whole I am very happy with how well the wing has gone together. I think it is the straightest I have built to date. (My GP extra has a noticable S shape in one trailing edge!!)

Philly, and I spose everyone, I didn't use the jig tabs, as I wanted the middle supported. As I had two complete lenghts of the 1/4x3/8 left over, I put one under the trailing edge, and pinned through the trailing edge and the stick into the board. I then pinned through the spar into the building board. The second stick was slid under the front, and pinned in place (not to the wing, wanted it left on the board when pulling the wing off). This made the wing rock solid, and I could apply plenty of presure to ensure the glue stuck without having to worry about putting in a warp.

For the trailing edge sheeting, I again pinned the trailing edge to the stick length, and pinned the spars.

everyone does it a little different and not everyone gets it right I spose whatever a manufacturer supplies..

All I can say is that the previous version worked fine for all the IH models, and since then its been improved...so...if that means my next one is better than the one I have then HAPPY DAYS !

To be honest Phil, I still have not got my head round how you got you wing fkd tup with forward sweep !

Anyway, You said Dean liked it ? How come he aint come to say anything here.... is he tied to rcw ?

recipe for forward sweep.

prepare wing for 1st sheeting
glue sheeting to top spar
dribble glue down the ribs from the front
turn wing over push down on bench rocking on the LE curve till set
once set both sides notice upto 5 degrees forward sweep

i think it was because i pushed the LE face down on the bench to apply the sheeting, somehow this created some force that pulled the wingtips forwards, putting on the rear strip just set this force.
i got lucky that i could take this out with the bottom sheeting.

if i did it again i'd put the rear strip on first ( top and bottom ) and support the front while bending the sheet, all this while being glued to the plan it's self ( i cover mine in clear sticky film, the glue tacks it in place, a tap removes it )

i've always done my wings as described above and not had a problem, i probably screwed up somewhere, i can't see how its a fault in design or kit.
i don't like doing my sheeting in free air because the wing can get all sorts of warps in it even tho its much easier to bend the sheet that way tacking down one or two ribs at a time, using the bench and rocking the whole wing normaly works well.

Dean said to his dad right away he had to get one, and told another of his club members to get the 140... why hes quiet here....

i got this the other day....

Great review of the capiche 50 also.I might just get one of these now to replace my kyosho cap that went in at the weekend.It was very old and had a piped super tigre 90 on it!
so if you get an order from Jim asking if he can use his ST90.....


right, i got a new Westy to run in ready for the weekend great service again from Weston UK[sm=thumbup.gif]

so in short philly it was failure to follow the instructions that did it !

ST 90.... interesting idea....I would not like to see that driven at full chat !

not really, they said put on the leading edge sheet, i just don't think they said how.. i'm gonna have to download them again and have a read, see all i missed.

i'm slowly getting the impression people are starting to think i don't like the Capiche or the build...[]

umm don't remember doing this bit...

J2 is your centre jig support at the trailing edge. Locate it to line up with the two centre ribs R1, and slide a bit of scrap 1/16 sheet underneath it. This adjusts for the absence of wing sheeting at this stage. J3 can be used on the last tip rib to provide an accurate level for the centre and end ribs.

is that going to give me less dehideral? DOH! and CPLR said it needed more

BINGO!

Now cut and carefully glue in position the vertical grain 1/16 sheer webs to the front part of the spars, all the way along. It is important that the wing does not move during this operation, as this is the process of maintaining the straight jigged position we have set up on the bench.

i did this AFTER! the sheeting, as i've always done, leaving the wing open to warps..


totaly forgot this bit!

Using a plane and sanding block remove all excess material and shape wing to section as per plan. It is good practice to induce a blunter leading edge toward the tip, and a sharper one inboard – but we use the word “sharper� relatively – it should not be sharp.


all in all... mine still flys like a goodun


any news on the FF wing yet? not put pen to paper yet to work out the CofG/ spar location problem for my own yet..

Surely the Dihedral is set by the centre ply piece which you build out from? The jigs as far as I could see just supported the trailing edge to ensure it is level chordwise when sheeting.

Well whatever I did, my wing is dead straight as far as I can see. No warp, no twist, no wash in or wash out or anything.

Lets just hope I can build the ailerons straight as well[8D]

You never know, I may end up with a completely straight plane. That would be a first !![sm=lol.gif]

Capiche 50 review is now complete

http://www.rcuniverse.com/product_gu...fm?kit_id=2579

i see its says full lenght reviews there too.. where do we squeeze those in? all planes need a bit more descrition than the quickys, eps about how it flys, 4 lines really isn't enough. i've put my link in the rate it bit, can i get it in full length?

ps, this link isn't working.. http://www.rcuniverse.com/editors/editor_base_new.cfm

i got loads of reviews i could upload or link to

Graham, nice review. Only you could have doctored the photos of the 140 so that they said 50 before submitting!! [8D]

look, i just found a baby version of the Capiche, ARWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
wanna win one? post your best crash pics in the comp on the crash threads

that flubber thing is sexy, did you see the jumping jack on the fliton website , mmmmmmmm nice. looks light as hell

Already have a "Flubber" on order


Flitton site??? Come on post a link??

Going to fit a hacker b20 18l and a kokham 340 3s 3p pack. That will make the little darling have it