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Yes.........i dont know why im on this thread........i dont have a capice, nor do i intend to get one, i want a 140 when it comes out, but that thread had died

that thread had died

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it didnt die, it was killed!

If you mean the capiche 140 thread its here http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/Capi...1127978/tm.htm

It just hasent had any updates so its slid down, HINT HINT

Hey Phillybaby, its Jim here(contacted you about magnums etc the other day)!I just found this thread last night and trawled through the first 1200 posts! it took me about 4 hours but loads of usefull info was picked up.I'll be getting a kit of Archie in a few weeks
but now my dilemma is should I fit the Rossi 53 from the magnum or my lazer 80 4 stroke.I know your not that fond of 4 strokes but it used to pull the cap round great(before the st90 was fitted) on an APC 14 x 6 at 9500 rpm. I fitted the Rossi with a few large props the other day. 13 x 4 at 12700 and 13 x 4w at 11900 with the purple pipe still set up for the 9 x 9 at 16500! With the weston throttle pipe these rpm's should get a fair bit better.I think both engines are suitable so the question is which one! all views would be helpful.

if i had the choice between those two, shock horror i might actully chose that nasty 4 stroker!!!!
becides, the Rosi already has a home, the lazer is looking.

but lets hand it over to those who do know about both engines

Archie,

You should get post tomorrow all being well. I have to confess that I only got about 1/3 the way through the build before I decided not enough time to complete, so a clubmate whose very skilled did it. He was well impressed with the construction and it only took him just over a week to finish in between building a full size Europa Kit!

As you can see from the pic one surface is bevelled but I wanted to know if its worth bevelling both sides? Thanks for the info on the joiner - I'll make it tomorrow if I get time.

Baron, Happy Birthday! I don't yet think Sprink has finished his airframe yet! At least I know my airframe isn't too heavy then which is a relief!

Andy

I am not the one to give advice,i have neither engines, but my Saito 72 hauls my Capiche upwards like no tomorrow, so IF your Laser 80 gives the same sort of power, and has the same sort of weight as the Saito 72, it should be good.
When i was asking around what engine to put in mine i was reccommended to put a Saito 72 in instead my Irvine 53 which i already had, so it sounds like you are in the same sort of dilemma i was in a couple of months ago. I am glad i made the choice of the Saito 72. Many thanks to The Boy and Archie for the great advice.
Where do you guys get long servo arms from?I noticed the boy and Surrey3styla had some on both their capiches and wondered where he got them, but forgot to ask.

I am also thinking of getting those ball bearinged clevis hole fittings for the pete tindal horns to help reduce the slop. Will they make a perceptible difference?

Have you worked out your colour scheme yet Sprink?
My colour schemes finished finally!
No more graffitti to speak of
Luke

Delete thread ? OK you are the users... I will do nothing...

JIMBO... looking forward to hearing from you you wont regret it...

Engine.. Whilst I dont like em, I would go Laser too..... but go easy on the power.... no driving hard at full chat ! plenty of room for your prop too

Herc, defo chamfer the other side - the tail, what you have there will only give you 45 degrees and you want 85 degrees available on a switch to make harriers childs play !

C140 thread ... you heard what G said ! Its yours to play with !

i'm stil ltrying to figure out how i can flick a switch to give myself that much elevator but still have it controled. to be honest, i wouldn't know how to make it just do it anyway even without control... airbrake? mixed to ch2?

luke,the servo arms i use are dubro heavy duty ones and i think archie could get some,i also use the petetindal ones which are cool for massive 3d movements.

Luke checkout the car/buggy area in your LHS they have some long cool coloured arms to fit most radios, seen lots of them on ebay.co.uk as well

Phillybaby

you want to set up your radio with dual rates, lower setting for general flying, and then large rates for 3d. Use some exponential, particularly for 3d rates, and you will be able to fly in control on 3d rates. Just remember to use your throttle wisely. The only switch I use is to activate spoilerons. Spoilerons - both ailerons go up when up elevator and both down with down elevator.

As people have said, harriers, elevators and parachutes are a doddle with this model.


I'm still flying mine - must have 200 + flights, and its still teaching me a trick or two. I tend to use the first half of the flight to practice smooth aeros and learn the IMAC sportsmans schedule, the second half of the flight (when it starts getting tail heavy as the fuel tank gets low) I fly 3d.

Chris

dual rates is all set up, ever since the second test flight
i'm happy with all my throws and expo in both, as comfirmed by all that have flown her... they are still amazed that flicking a switch changes the way the plane flys, even in a straight line. somehow even when you'r not touching the sticks it smooths out!!

what i'd like is a 3rd switch i can flick to make the elevator go through this 170 degrees movement under control.

No need to delete, plenty going on.

As for the C140 thread, we are waiting for something to happen, ie the plane to be launched.

My airframe is nearly complete. Basically one aileron to go. Still a sheet of 1/16th short, so wont finish it until the weekend, when I will also do the final sanding, shape the leading edges of the wing, and the little tidying up needed. Its going to be a busy weekend, no flying for me as I want to get my GP Extra and Cap ready for flying as well. Good thing I have booked Monday off work...

Hercmate, If you dont double bevel the surfaces you wont get the throw needed for real 3D stuff. By doing it you leave the options open to you, you don't have to do the wild 3D stuff if you find you dont like it and just wont a smooth sport plane.

Jimbo, the Laser has the power, but is a bit heavy. Loverly engines aren't they? Fancy buying my 70? Anyway, yes plenty of power, just watch the weight (you'll be well over 5lb, the laser 80 is a good 5/6 oz more than the Saito 72)

Luke, I love that scheme. How did you do the swish on the wing? (sorry, how did your Dad do the swish on the wing?[8D]) AS for my scheme, I did post it before. A long time ago now - post 739 on page 25. Can reload I'm in the office, firewall won't let me.

I did the swish suprisingly!Dad does all the crucial bits but i designed the scheme,did the swooshes on the wing via the computer, and the women silhouettes over the capiche decals!

I printed the swoosh out on A4 vinyl via an inkjet printer and then stuck another layer of vinyl over the top to prevent fuel getting to the printer ink.
If anybody wants the patterns i created, mail me and i will send them to you.

Just weighed my capiche with a set of scales.
It comes in at 5lb 4oz with a full tank of fuel, so assuming 10oz tank of fuel weighs 10oz, its 4lb 10oz with no fuel. Not Bad!

Yes I should have known better really with the bevelling!

I've had smooth sport planes (2 x Wot 4 and Balsa Nova 40) and they've either crahed or been sold! BN40 very disappointed with - too heavy and not good at 3d. Wot 4, well I wrote one off after taking the michael with it! The rudder failed at full deflection at the top of a stall turn (about 30 feet) after much abuse. So basically sport flying is ok, but sport and extreme 3d is best. I'm pretty much the only person in my club to do 3d and prophanging etc and whilst most don't mind and all land to let my fly (!), some don't like it. So the only way to get them to accept it is to keep doing it! So I'm bevelling both sides now. Also Phil I think my FF9 can be set up to do triple rates though I'll need to have a look at the manual first. What tx ave you got?

It easy to setup the triple rate switch on the FF9. Just set the dual rates to a 3 position switch et voila!
In my old club i was the only person doing 3D apart from one other guy prophanging.
We just carried on ignoring all the club members daft winging, ut then they banned us from doing it as a result, so watch out!
If i went and hovered my capiche at the club i bet they would change their tune when they heard the Saito 72 going!They like fourstrokes at my old club!

What sort of differential are you guys using on your capiche ailerons?
I think mine need programming a bit more up than down to make the rolls completely axial.

Surrey3styla, I dont think the extra long horns are for hitec servos are they?I thought they were for futaba servos.
Archie,if you can get the extra long 3D servo arms for hitec servos, i will get some from you to put on my capiche.

i've got a FF8

luke,the hitec usually come with the heavy duty ones already in red plastic,i got those on my mk 1 capiche and work well for high movements.

I have the Dubro Super Arms, for Futaba and JR.... are the JR items compatible with hitec?

my Poor little Westy had a little knocking noise today. it was the second run after getting it back. it seems the factory had sneaked a few of the conrods Weston rejected because of how they fitted the bushing ( on some of the first engines only ) back into the spares batches.. ironically if Alan had only replaced the piston and liner i'd be fine lol
despite the noise, and a lack of power. it still ran fine
Spoke to Alan, this won't happen to new engines as the method of doing the bushings has changed so they CAN'T force it in slightly on the piste ( Austrian joke )

made a nice mess inside tho, the knocking noise was the piston hitting the backplate and crankcase lol

So the Capiche sits idle again till next weekend
and the stickers still wont be on it by then

Philly had a chance this weekend to test a West 50 against the Os 46 and the YS 63

All on the same prop only diffo the Ys was on 20% nitro and the OS on a muffler.

Os 46 a limp 9,200 In its defence it was on a standard muffler!!

West 50 on throttle pipe 11,000

Ys 11,900

I am sure I saw on this thread in the past a chap who reckoned 12k plus for the West on a 13x 4w??

Spoke to Big Al he reckoned the pipe on the model I tested (a Madness) was a mini not throttle pipe??

The only true throttle pipe at this size fits the Hype and the Capiche 50

We will see.

Baron. it is me who 'thinks' i get 12k+ on a west 50

i get 13k on a 13x4w APC

i think i had either 12.9, or 12.3 on a 13x4 not W
however, right now i'm getting nowt lol

Alan told me no West should be on a throttle pipe, all Wests are on Mini pipes, and if you ask for a pipe make sure you say its a West if thats gonna be it's home, or you'll get a throttle pipe by accident. -2K was what he told me if you put it on a throttle. So my Capiche pipe is a mini pipe, not a throttle pipe... i guess...

my West 36 is currently on a Leo muffler and WONT! run on a 11x4 master, although weirdly a APC 10x4 and MAster 11x4 give the same RPM, 13.6k. it needs the pipe for the extra power. then it'll turn a APC 11x4! right now the 11x4 master makes it cut when going from half, to full throttle, lack of fuel pressure. so for now a APC 10x4 is living there


so Malc... is the extra cost, and extra cost per gallon for that extra 15%, worth a tiny 900rpm?