hi joe.

i noticed how quiet its been to.as of yet,i haven't started my u-can do but finished my third plane today.The u-can-do is next.I'll be in toledo this weekend for the rc expo and who knows what i might bring home.I've got 3 maidens to do;A big bingo ;gp spacewalkerand a robinhood 80.ought to be a fun summer.Hope to get the u-can-do up by june.


happy flying ; ken

Joe, you could dremel out any unwanted material in the thrust plate

Hey guys, yes it was a maiden weekend. Flew the Extra for the first time. Joe, you are going to kill me on this one. I ended up having to add 10.5 oz dead weight on the nose due to mounting a third servo in the tail for direct connection to the rudder and the tail-wheel. I know, I know, I know.......I too hate dead weight. it must have been the drape curse that got to me. To be honest, the 160 flew the airplane so well I didn't even notice the added weight. Honest, I didn't notice it. This is the first time this has bit me in changing the tail-wheel and rudder connection from a pull-pull to a direct connection rod. Next time I will do a static test to check CG before doing the final installation. Oh well, lesson learned. I will post the best picture of the day just so you guys can see her. The finished product turned out very well. I also flew the UCD. I have to say the Extra might nudge the UCD out of first place in my most enjoyable airplanes to fly. great day at the field with winds out of the south and temps in the 80's with clear skies. Alabama at it's finest.

So when will all the new UCD's be finished. Joe, LL Matt??? You guys getting close?

KEN, right now I'm doing my balancing act. I'll be moving stuff around to determine final placement. I will leave the cowl off untill I dial in the thrust angle to perfection. One of my props just came in, a 16/4 apc and I'm ancious to see how it performs compared to the 15/6 on the Saito 100. I got a 16/5 still on order.
RAJUL, what thrust angle did you finally settle on. You have the 100, correct?
ROGER, beautiful, I think the looks of that plane make up for any added weight. Now all we need is good news from Matt. Later, Joe

Hi Joe, I am now at 3 deg but still have some experimenting before deciding whether to add another deg.

Thanks Mike, On the last one I had washers doubled up and as near as I can figure it equalled about 3 degrees give or take. At that point it seemed like it could use more, not knowing just how far the wood compressed and cancelled out the angle. So I guess I'll start with the 3 degree plate and see what happens. Good to hear from you, Joe

Greetings Roger and Joe


was supposed to maiden this past weekend but timing was way off for myself and my flying buddy Lee.

he has a Cap to maiden and I have the UCANDO to do. Weather has not cooperated as well and it has been crappy today and will be until fri so I will keep my fingers crossed.

Will update asap

Roger is that your WM Extra? That thing is a buet!

Not to get to off topic but are any of you going to Joe Nall?

Joe, just in case, you could stack up the plates to give you more than 4 deg, and also a combi of side thrust and up/down thrust. Those plates are really good stuff. Wish they will come up with larger ones for >.90 size engines.

MIKE, thats the best part of these plates. The different combos of degrees and the directional ability. I can now "dial it" in any direction. I'll leave the cowl off untill I'm satisfied. Thanks again for turning me on to these and the cline regulator. I'm ancious to see how that works as well.
MATT, you better get jiggy wit dat UCD. We want a flight report. Inquiring minds want to know. If you are not grinning ear to ear after you land then you did something wrong. Good luck.
ROGER, I'm not too familiar with your new Extra, but as you become more comfortable with it and if a more aft. CG is in order, then some of that nose weight can be removed. Yes/no? Later, Joe

Matt, good to see you are still with us. Have any pictures of the UCD? Would love to see, and good luck with the maiden flight.

Ken, I almost decided to go to Toledo, but my wife hurt a back playing tennis and has been ;laid up for over 5 weeks. Still may need surgery, but trying other things first. I will have to stay close to home for a while so no go on Toledo.

Joe and Rjaul, I would really like to see some pictures of what you guys are doing with these plates. I haven't ever used and would like to see how they work. I think I have the concept down, but a picture says a 1000 words.

Joe, I have the CG right on the hairy edge with the 10.5 ounces. I flew it with 9 ounces and it was noticeably tail-heavy. The only alternative I see is to maybe switch to a gasser later down the road, which I'm certain would allow me to remove most of the dead weight. I basically have the weight of a gasser now with the 1.60 and not the extra power. The plane really does fly well even with the weight and this engine. Not a 3-D machine by any means. I will fly as is for a while and if I become bored with it I will put a gasser in it.

Thanks all for the compliments on the plane.

Joe,Roger,Mike Et all...

Shhushhh..not mentioned this yet but going to see a new range of ARTF's at distributors HQ....inc a 3D design...70" w/s...71" length, nearly1200 sq" w/area, 3.5 Kg all up weight ..designed for a .90 to 1.20 F/S.... will try for photo's.. more later....after dark...!

LL, by all means get and post the photos. I promise your secret is safe with me.

ROGER, A gasser would seem as a most appealing alternative to shed that nasty dead weight. MVVS 1.6 is just around the weight you would be looking for. Joe

Roger & anyone Else..!

Hope everyones around !...might ..( NO..WILL..! ) need some help here... thought it best to open a new thread .." Cyclone " same ARTF & RTF location....thought the UCD had some wings on it...! [:-]

Bit of a taster... ( photo's ).....Divorce ...LARGE..

We're putting one of these together right now. Slapping a YS-120 on for power. Should have good performance.

Lucan that looks like a slighty enlarged UCANDO?


whats the story on this one?

Mat..
Just opened the box really.. simular to UCD...bit thinner section to airfoil, all laser cut frame....comes ready to go either way with internall pull/pull setup...or servos rearwards..helps no end on your balance requirements...which,in turn, is dictated by the hardware you put up front.

All pull/pull fixtures and fittings are supplied,as well as rods should you go aft with your servos,much more ' open ' construction than UCD, much high grade, thin ply.

Vert & horz stab are constructed with brace point strengthening already in place,should you wish to brace them with the steel cable & fittings ,supplied..!

The more i go into this the more superb it seems..!

The prop driving face is to be 135mm from the firewall, same figure for c of g from LE

Slight taper to wing chord at tip,huge controll surfaces

Ali Mashinchy, ( of " Al's Hobbies "...London, fame ) one of europe's top display pilots has his photo on th box and was involved with " YT International " to create this and a couple of other freestyle/3d kits..dazzling stuff..

You guys should be able to get one of these for $249.00... unbelieveable..!

More later,Dave.

Just a couple more pic's of the internals this time ..looking back to the pull/pull provision...

Dave, you are pushing your wifey's limits. Tell me about the location of the hor. stab in relation to the wing elevation. Are they in line or is one higher than the other useing the thrust line as a guide. Thanks, Joe

Lord Lucan, you have my attention. Looks very nice. I agree with Matt that it looks like a larger UCD with different covering. Do you have the website for more details?

hi roger.


sory to hear about your wifes back injury .hope she gets well soon.Toledo show will be here next year .Maybe a few of us in this thread can meet up .

ken

Ken,

Thanks for your concerns. She has a herniated disc, L5 lower back. It's a real bugger. I would have liked to have gone to this. I hear it's one of, if not the best shows. Let me know about the new stuff and if anything really jumps out. I'm sure a few of these guys will be going. As you say, maybe next year for me.

Hey guys, this weekend the 256 socket heads ate up the mounting holes on the cowling pretty good from vibration. I had used 'all-thread inserts' with nylon washers, but it still ate it up a bit. I routed out the holes a bit more and used small rubber gourmets as a fix. I have used these before and they always do the trick. Fixed now, but thought I would mention.

Joe ,
The centre of the horizontal stab looks to be 15mm above the thrust line, while the centre of the wing is 15mm below the thrust line + or_ 0,25mm...it's 4 in the morning here..!.. going to take some bits into the weighing room today ..it seems an incredibly rigid airfame..Dave

Roger and all..
Just been hunting around, found the web site that should be good for you... kmp.ca or.. Kondor model products.... you guys can get these 1/2 the price i can..but im going to try to get another today..they are that good...! www.kmp.ca

A carbon fiber upgrade for wheel pants, canopy, u/c and custom tailwheel bracket are available ..we'll have some of that as well i think...! Dave

roger.

i used short lengths of inner nyrod tubes as inserts into firewaLL.with servo grommet from mini servos between the cowl and firewall.So far ,no cracks in cowl .Maybe the inner nyrod tube is taking most of the vibes from engine .

ken

Roger, Perkins Specialty Products has some dandy cowl binders at www.pspmfg.com a lot of other goodies as well. Check them out. Joe