Rick,

Atención, no todos los receptores son creados iguales

As an example, the Futaba and JR receivers have different channel assignment on the receiver.

Futaba channel 1 is aileron, 2 is elevator, 3 is throttle.

JR channel 1 is elevator, 2 is aileron, 3 is throttle.

So, channel 1 and 2 are reversed.

With that in mind, I don't know what the channel assignments are on the AR6100, since I don't have one. If it's different from the Futaba receiver, then labeling the servo connector is a waste of time.

My suggestion would be, to disconnect all the connectors from the futaba receiver. Install the spectrum receiver.
Then, this is the tedious part. Get the working TREX and find what servo goes to what channel on it and copy that over to Trex #2.

Maybe someone else out there knows for sure what the channel assignments are.

¡Buena suerte, mi amigo,

Dave / Choppersrule

Jay,

I KNEW you'd love it, I'm not rubbing this in either (Oh, yes I am) Couple things I noticed in the pictures, picture 1, looks like two of the three connectors for the motor to ESC are not plugged in all the way. Picture 2, check your main gear for worn teeth, hard to tell in a picture. Oh, speaking of main gear, I've got a Micro-Heli main gear. Perfectly round, made of harder stuff, much smoother than the stock main gear. Oh, forgot, it's pricey too, 39 bucks. However, it's lasted me much longer than 4 or 5 of the stock main gears, so it's kinda like an "Even-Steven" proposition. And it still looks like new. The stock main, will wear over time, and in a bad crash, usually will strip some teeth.

Pictures are great and I can tell you are having a good time with it. (Rub-Rub )

HEY, I found a couple old pictures of me, flying the Blade CP in the back yard. About 18 months ago. They are a little dark, but, (shhh), my wife took them, don't tell her.[sm=spinnyeyes.gif]

Keep having fun, that's what it's all about,

God Bless,

Dave / Choppersrule
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Yeah.... On a Belgian waffle with a side of bacon[8D]

Dave, great eye on the pics. The connectors I'm using match up but don't push all the way in. I secure them with a tight wrap of 3m electrical tape when it's ready to fly. I've been working on the programing so I unplug 2 of the wires to make sure I don't have a sudden OOPS and it spools up. I have the MicroHeli w/ oneway bearing gear sitting on the bench but until I completely destroy the stock one it will wait. It has just minor damage from the first incident but still very flyable. I'm waiting on switching to the Telebee gyro just to work with the stock one and test it's limitations. I turned up the gain today and it seemed to be better than before, although just hovering and no FF. I'm also waiting to put the Carbons on. I'm finding that the stock woodies are very hard to tune. Low speeds tracking is off, midspeed/hovering they are right on, highpeed punchout they track off again. They are probably warped.

God Bless!

Jay

Jay,

Good idea on the electrical tape, don't want anything to short out on you. When programming for the idle up mode, just use a crowbar for weight, see picture.

You need to anchor the motor and ESC wires, see picture for suggestions. You are a half a step ahead of me on the MicroHeli gear. LOL. See picture of mine, had it for 4 or 5 months now and the teeth are like new. Need to get the oil off them from over oiling the bearings. Yuk-yuk. I too, am running a Telebee gyro and it is wonderful, you'll like it, for sure.

And in closing, the stock woodies are okay/alright for puttering around. But when you want to get somewhat serious and go for the Budlight, you need the Carbon Fibers. [sm=punching.gif]

Have a ball with the HBK2, I do,

God Bless,

Dave / Choppersrule

Hi Autoart4you,

I sent you a PM regarding your generous offer.

Thanks,

Scott Walton

Dave, I don't know if you noticed the placement of all of my parts.... Yeah I'm a bit of a copy cat

Scott, hows the flying going?

God Bless!

Jay

Here's a pic of my tail saver mod, " Tip of the day" from Dave and well reproduced by Rick. I had at least 4 tail "rubs" making routine landings and this mod works perfectly, no tail touches sense. Thanks Dave[8D]

Jay,

Your welcome for the vertical fin mod. And thanks for posting it. What amazes me, is that I receive alot of PM's from others thanking me for my "Tip of the day" posts. Yikes! I need to dream up more. The old computer brain never shuts off.

I maybe wrong, but I don't remember a picture you posted with the "Tip of the day" modification on the vertical stabilizer.

I may have been taking a nap. Yuk-Yuk!

God Bless,

Dave / Choppersrule
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Jay,

I think this is my original picture of the vertical fin mod. You did a nicer job.

Dave / Choppersrule

He just had more time to make it look prettier...LMAO.

Hi Jay,

Things are going well, thanks for asking! And thanks for the referral on the CP parts from autoart4u. All contributions gratefully accepted. Nice air for the last two weeks every morning before work. Out at 6:00am to the park for 2 batteries worth of nice FF.

One concern to report that hopefully the BOBs will address. When flying, I set a timer for 10 minutes and that seems about right to give me enough power in reserve to get back on the ground. However, the last week or so I occasionally have a situation. When transitioning from my 10 minutes of FF to hover in preparation to land, I have a very difficult time controlling yaw. It's like the gyro doesn't want to give me control of the tail to point the nose where I want during landing. Now, during the 10 minutes of FF I have fine control of the tail if/when I need it and the gyro also does a great job of holding the nose where it's pointed. Also, at the start of the flight, just after lift off, I seem to have fine yaw control. The gyro is an Align RCE-500X. Any ideas? Is this the wrong gyro for my Blade CP+?

Thanks!

Scott

Scott, as your battery depleats, you loose head speed, and the tail motor also gets weaker. You have two choices at this point...shorten your flying time to 8 minuets or run a bigger battery. It's also possible your tail motor is going bad too...they die a SLOW death, but you do notice the loss of performance, even if it's slight. Again also, if your main motor is starting to go bad, it'll rob the tail motor of power causing problems with tail control as the motor gets warmer form use. Since I don't know what batteries or motors you're running.....I can only guess. It could be any of the above....tail motor, main motor, battery, but NOT the gyro.

Hi Crash!

My CP+ is stock except I've added Bell Hiller (so it's basically same as a CP Pro I think) and I fly CF syms and the gyro. Thanks for the clear, concise analysis of the problem. I've got about 30 days on this set of stock motors, so since I'm flying two batteries/day about 6 days/week it's probably time to change them huh? Since the problem seems to be getting gradually worse, your explanation makes perfect sense.

Before I change motors I do think I'll try shorter flights and/or come down to hover a couple times while the battery is still plenty full just to see what happens. 8 minutes of FFF just zipping around is plenty anyway.

Oh BTW, I'm letting it cool for 5 minutes between flights. Is that enough time?

Thanks again for the great support!!

Scott

Scott...get some new motors lined up, you're gonna need them. Until they get here...just cut your flying time to 5-7 minuets, but the problem will worsen anyway. A bad servo motor will also cause these symtoms...food for thought. I'd say change the motors, if the problem still exists....a servo is poking you.

I have the spare motors here now! ;-) Thanks for the intel on the servos. I have replaced them all once since I got the bird at Christmas; so they're maybe 4 months old now.

Best,

Scott

A QUICK QUESTION : ( a quickie ? ) .... eeewwww

do electric motors, as they age , get progressively (and slowly) , less and less powerful ? or do they NECESSARILY just go out all at once, like in a burn out

I notice that my CX-2 that has been flown constantly for a year and a half, is beginning to slow down, kinda. I also WONDER if the 2Cell LiPos ( all four of them)
can do the same. Which is losing power ? the motor, the LiPo ? and how does one check that ?
all these ITEMS mentioned are all ORIGINAL OUT OF THE BOX since back to 27 FEB 2007 ........have they arrived at their appointed SENILITY ?

Y'all KNOW more about this than this old fool.

about the new TREX : I find that just unraveling the bundle of cables from the servos, and threading EACH INDIVIDUAL ONE for identification seems to be the only
way to go

CHEERS.......coffe break at work has ENDED.........read y'all from the house at 5:30pm RICK

Could be motors OR batteries, either one. Yes, they wear out with age.

Rick,

Mi apuesta es que es una mala motores. The motors have very small carbon brushes and wear out quickly, of course depending on the number of flights on them. 60 hours on those motors and you'd be lucky. Batteries, chances of all four batteries going bad at the same time are slim and none. Typically, if lipo batteries aren't abused, by draining them to much, they normally will recharge between 200 and 300 times, with the proper charger and balancer. I think your motors are going to the south side, change out both of them at the same time, not just one you suspect is bad. Que son baratos.


Feliz motoring.

Dave / Choppersrule
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Ray 'ere,
And I'm not being flippant but the thing to do to make a cp+ into a great flying machine is to get an HBK2.
I spent quite a few hard earned dollars and when she was good she was very, very good. Her size made her a great "flitter".
The 400 requires more room and the Rex even more....more than I have.
I have three trees across the front of my house next to the road and I fly at no more than 8 ft off the deck and the smaller machine gets a good run at it. My pro was excellent but I was never at ease with the tail response. I was running the standard non brushless system and by the time I'd fitted anti rotation and replaced around six motors I got to looking for a machine with a better mechanical layout. What put the last nail in the coffin was the RX going south and the cost of replacing that made it kinda like those few years of Harley Davidson where one hour on the road needed eight hours of shop time.
The HBK2 is a little bigger than the Pro but she is a great "flitter" and about the same cost as a Pro. The flybar control system has much less slop than the Pro and results in more satisfying control.
Now then, having said all that, my CX-2 is a little jewel and will be replaced with another two-rotor when she expires.
Thank heaven for the Daytona prototypes....nighttime race at daytona this eve with excellent commentators.
Did you hear the rumour news that young Dale Jr may try the Aussie V-8 this next season as a guest of Marcus Ambrose who was series champion down-under. Should be interesting. Glad it was Pablo who dealt out the reality check last weekend....hahaha.
Three good flights this eve and batteries are recharging.
Today I paid $4 + a gallon for the first time....is it time to start drilling at home...?
Playing tomorrow evening.....outdoor gig at a house nearby.
My quartet from 7 'till sundown. I'll be playing my Hammond and the Roland keys...dude running the gig at his house is a fine drummer and we have a good bassist and guitarist. Hope I can get someone to video it 'cos I'm going to do my Brian Auger thing. Guitarist's girlfriend is a nice singer so we should have something good goin' on.
My new 450 arrived. The package was destroyed at one end and the UPS dude was quite annoyed when I refused delivery.
My goodies for the HBK2 arrived the following day....no problem.
Battery finished charging so I'm going to turn on the outside lights and fly awhile.
Later gents,
Ray

WHERE IS THE LOOKYJ ????

WHERE IS THE WNUK ?????

SIC TRANSIT GLORIA MUNDI

Mr. Dave......your Spanish is PRICELESS ! ( Su Espanol es precioso)

Signs of Depression : I have the RAPTOR , 3 HoneyBees and 1 TREX, plus all the supporting equipment, READY TO BE LOADED
and taken to the flying field, there is NO WIND AT ALL, not a cloud in the sky

AND I CAN'T GET GOING !!!! Even all the batteries, even those for the CAMCORDER are topped out

I TOTALLY HATE this old age

[>:]

Hi Ray,

I'm sure you're so right! To paraphrase: 'Nothing wrong with a CP+ than a HBK2 can't fix'. <g> I'm sure one day I'll do that, or a Trex; it's just that I have so many parts and accessories now for my CP+. I guess I want to use them up before I switch systems.

Scott

hey Scott,

i got your PM and i sent you an e~mail just reply back to my e~mail with your add. and the parts will be on there way!



Alex

Rick, I hope you feel better soon, personal prayer sent

Ray, I look forward to a link of the video[8D]

I'm still working on the set-up of my HBKII. I did my first 2 rolls today and some incredible sloppy looking loops Telebee gyro blows the stock one away although I need to work on the tail control system much more. She certainly get's knocked around in the wind but much better than the Blade CP series. I love how responsive the head is on the HBKII very crisp.

Back down to the cave to tune the HBKII. I hope everyone has a safe and happy 4th of July

God Bless Us All,

Jay

Not to go off topic on this thread[sm=50_50.gif] but I wanted to share some pictures of the Battle Creek Balloon festival and Airshow I went to today. What a great time, the guy in the Piper Cub picture landed it on the truck[X(] Great pilot! Also it's the first time I've ever seen a F-104 Starfighter fly in person, very cool. Enjoy!

Jay,

Two rolls and some sloppy loops. You are doing great. I haven't heard of any crashes as yet. I knew you would like the Telebee gyro, just some more fine tuning, with co-ordinated pitch and throttle curves. You have a cave, Hmmmm, I have a dungeon.
That's what the wife calls it, if someone asks her where Dave's at, she tells them, "Down in the Dungeon"

The set-up will come, just keep tweekin'. LOL

God Bless ya,

Dave / Choppersrule

The only crash I've had so far was my "temporarily loss of intelligence" when I shut the transmitter off first and it went haywire. I'm finding that the HBKII is also easy to lose orientation. There have been a couple of times now when I've turned and the brain thinks it's doing something other than the hands. That's not good. I'm thinking of painting the body in a way that will help distinguish up, down ,left and right better.

I hope everyone had a wonderful 4th

God Bless!

Jay

Well guys,
Great gig tonight...the Hammond sounded priceless. Ladyfriend from the office and her daughter were speechless. She only sees me at the office and when I was called up she was surprised to see me climb behind this beautiful piece of furniture. You shoulda seen the look on her face as she realised that it was the English guy from the Mechanical group making these sounds. Bless her...she forgot to start the camera.
I set up the organ with a 6ft by 2ft mirror above me so folks can see my hands and when we did a ten minute rendition of Pick up the Pieces things sorta took off.
Rain started at sundown and we'd just got everything relocated back in my living room when the bottom dropped out....superb timing....!!!
Looking for rain tomorrow but at least I have Daytona under the lights.
Radio....
Nice shots....pray tell....what kind of camera and lens...??
There was an interesting TV program the other evening about air battles in the future and one segment had a fight 'tween four Raptors and four Russian Sukhoi "Berkat" fighters...amazing graphics.
'Tis late so I'll bid you goodnight,
Ray