Rob Mine is the 70 size Kantana. I will reinforce it as much as I can before flying. It is a cool looking plane.
I may have to fly it if my repaired UCD doesn't fly ok. I have Saito 80 or a ST 75 to put in it. At 5 1/2# it should fly ok with either.


torombolo HS-55 would be fine for throttle on UCD. Keep the weight down as much as possible. Mine flew ok at 6 1/2# with a Saito 82. Vertical was good, not great. These guys are a wealth of information.
Also if no one has mentioned it. Leave the hard wood blocks off the firewall and put cowl screws right in the firewall to save a little weight.

Doug

THX doug, will see how the UCD comes of with the ST 61

Barry.. It'll be really nice here in a few weeks... But the snowbirds will be back
also... Field fills then

raideron...

Yea...rub it in. It'll be nice here too...12" of snow.

Hey, I was just looking at the new Twist. It's interesting. Hanger 9 calls it a 60 size yet it appears smaller than the UCD46.

Kinda interesting.

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Barry

I just looked up the specs of the Twist vs. the UCD.

UCD:
WS = 56.75
Length = 58.5
Sq Inch = 904
Wt. = 5.75 lbs

Twist"
WS = 54.75
Length = 56.6
Sq Inch = 992
Wt. = 6.5 - 7.5 lbs

The UCD has a bit less wing area but is bigger otherwise. No wonder many like the Saito 100 on the UCD. If you go by the Hanger 9 specs the small UCD would be a 60 size. I guess the next size up would be a 90 instead of a 60 size.

Interesting how different manufacturers have different rating ideas.

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Oh...

Anybody thinking about getting the bigger Twist? I had the smaller one. I really liked it but decided I like the UCD a little better so I sold that and never looked back. I did like the plane though. I'd love to fly this bigger one.

Anyways!?!?!?!

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I don't know why I'm even thinking about a new airplane. I can't get the CAP done. I'm only about 3-4 hours away from having it ready to fly and I've enlisted a couple of "gas guys" to help me tune the engine. They've been on hold for a month. They are starting to say I'll never get it done.

I'll save myself from buying a new plane until I get "Mr. Gasser" in the air. Then I'll think about it.

I'd love to try the new Funtana 100X and maybe the new Twist.

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Another one I'm looking at is the Super Skybolt by Great Planes. That looks like a great bibe.

All of these planes would fit my engine selection good. The mighty 110. Seems like there's a lot of planes in that catagory that have just recently been released.

It's a great time to be in this hobby.

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Hey Barry... Most say... That's bigger than a 46 when they look at the "Do"..
I've looked at the new 60 size twist... But if I get another soon... I think it'll be the
X100 for my other 110.....
Before I got the Yak... 110's.. I was really looking into gas... But it was too big a step
for me..... Theyare nice, clean and fuel is cheaper, but lately some people has been
trying to catch glow prices........ Get-er-done

WoW! The 82 on the profile.....[X(] You'd have some serious power. My Do needs more than some upkeep. More like a whole new do. It's just looking kind of worn out. Oh! Almost forgot. I let one of the guys fly it last night and he was doing rolling harriers with it. I'd never seen it do that before. It was neat to see but then I had to get the controls back since he was making me look bad.....[>:] Oh RATS! I see that the price on the 46 Do from Wholesale Trains (that place that had them for 129.00) has gone up to $149.00. ARRRGGGGHHHHHH.......I was just getting around to ordering one....

I'd like to get a bigger Twist. They do look rather nice. I didn't care for the smaller one, at least not at the time I flew it.

rclement...

Right now Tower has the UCD listed at $149 with $20 off and free shipping. Net = $129. That's about where you can always buy them. I did see some specials that got it down to $119 but only once.

Don't delay...the price may go up.

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I'm not sure of the details, but Tower is offering a rebate along with that $129 price tag. Maybe I'd better order a spare.

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The rebate on the UCD46 is for choice of $5 check or $10 merchandise certificate. Bought one yesterday to put my AXI 4120/18 into. Rebate has to be post marked by 9/30/06

Hey Rob.... I had the YS 63 on both my profiles and it seemed perfect... My YS's does
not like the 14X4W, so the 82 beats it there *sort of* but other than that their the
same, but the response goes hands down to the YS and the no problems at all to the 82....

The way I started and still learning to do rolling circles/harriers, is by just using the
elevator with the ails./throttle... I was getting no where using elev/rud/etc., I'd get about
3-5 rolls and that was it... I'm getting a little better using the rud. maybe half+ circle now
But........ I can get a pretty nice oneor more now with just the elev. applying just before
the wing gets to vert. to turn and releasing slightly aft. to keep level.. Rolling harriers...
work in progress... Trying to do them like Kyle... "Maybe" in about 10yrs... [&o]
It's an ever learning hobby..

No fly this morning... And a beauitful morning it was[:@].. "Do" still needs upkeep, and
the YS is out of the S.T. I was only going to add more rt. thrust... And started checking things
and it got to hot, and I never made it back to it... I did have the SPAD and 4* ready to go
but............ And if I stay on here, all may not be ready before and or by the weekend...
K... I have to go play a few games, so I can get to finishing the planes:-)

So...

I guess if you wanted to get the cash rebate the plane would be $124. That's a pretty good price. Hmmmm... I only have one in my inventory. Maybe I better get another just in case.

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Thanks for the info Ron. I need to do some practicing on the sim. I'm having a hard time with the sim though. I have AFPD and I was able to download other planes when I had my other computer but with the new computer it doesn't seem to want to load them into the sim. Gotta check into that. Anyway, speaking of Kyle, he flies at the new flying club that I joined. I haven't seen him there when I've been there but I heard he was there last Sunday. Another "famous" guy that flies there is Dave Villwock, the hydroplane racer that used to drive the Budwieser. I think he drives the Elam now. Something like that. I helped him with his 40% Carden when I was there on Monday. Real nice guy. Excellant flyer. That's one thing about that (new to me) flying club, lots of IMAC flyers there. Sometimes that's a pain. Waiting for them to finish their routines. Good flyers though.

Didn't you have a Giant Do,if so,how did it do?

mixmaster...

Yea...I have a Giant. I only got 5 flights on it before I destroyed the engine (OS160FX). It seized up in mid air. Tower replaced it though. It never seemed like enough engine. But the engine was probably faulty. Anyways, I'm trying to decide what to do. It's a neat plane. I have the wing set up with 8 servos that will provide "crow" full scale aileron, spoileron, flaps, or all of the seperately. That's the very reason I got the 12Z radio. So I could program all that.

The plane flew very smoothly and nice but I didn't really get to even try and 3D with it. The engine always felt like it just wouldn't come up to speed.

I'm debating on what to do now. I have a DA50 that would really make it sing or I could put the new 160 in it or I've been thinking about a 160 YS.

But I want to get the CAP up first. Then I'll come back to the UCD. But I also have a 46 and a 60 UCD. I love those planes. I'm back and forth on whither I like the 46 or the 60 better. I always favored the 46 until I put the mighty 110 in the 60. Wow. What a difference. Now they are so close that I guess they are BOTH my favorite. But I keep flying other planes to see if I can find something I like more. Yes, I have found planes I really like and sometimes I even like flying them more for a time, but it seems I always come back to the UCDs sooner or later and say "man I just have more fun flying these".

Anyways,,,,just my opinion.

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Wow,that was nice of them to replace the engine. I had OS 1.60 in a 12lb SU26,if I remember it swung an APC 18X6 @ well over 9K. I wasnt hovering much then but I remember it had good vertical and could hang for a while. If the Giant comes out 13lb or more,maybe the 1.60 wouldnt be best,at least SA 220,Moki 2.10 or small gasser. Ive seen a Vision @ 16lbs with DA50 and the owner swears its way too much power for it,hovers at idle almost. I wouldnt trust a 50cc on the airframe unless they changed the construction methods(for the better).I wish I had your problem,so many planes,so many engines,which one goes with witch?! Send the Giant to me,I'll figure it out-in the air! Now I wish they made a 1.20 sized Do,looks like the Giant is too small for gas,very expensive fuel & engines if glow. Anyway,if I ever get back to T/R tail touches with the new 60,I might not care about other planes.

I forgot to mention I ended up installing a Cline on my SU26,it had a 22oz tank and the OS1.60 was leaning out & sagging on every roll until the Cline went in. I thought it was the larger tank with a huge air bubble(after running a bit)causing the problem. Just FYI.

Speaking of the 12Z radio...I've been thinking of flying all three UCDs at the same time. With this radio I could program them all on the same frequency and take and just fly a simple pattern and land.

Probably no 3d stuff. At least in the beginning.

What would you do?

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Mixmaster...

You are right, I have too many airplanes, although I only have 4 that are flyable right now. UCD 46, UCD 60, Velox RII, Ultra Stick Lite. I have the Giant on the floor waiting engine, and the CAP 232 waiting to be finished. All the others I have gave away or crashed. Mostly given away to friends.

Anyways, you are right I don't think I'll put the DA50 in the Giant. It weighs about 12lbs 4 ozs I think. I'll probably go back with the OS160. I started with a 18x6W and could only get about 7500 RPM. I went to a 17x6 and could only get about 8400. It should have done more than that. And then it seized. So...I think I'll go with the OS160 and see if I can get it to rev up a bit. Another choice would be the YS140 Sport engine. I would shave 10ozs weight and probably have more power at my elevation because the YS are supercharged. Otherwise I'll probably put a pump on the OS 160.

Anyways, I'll get going again here in a couple of weeks. Recently I've been so busy at work that it's been a problem getting to fly.

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Barry

Hey Rob.... Sometimes with names like that, you can gain a lot of insight, I
know I'd be trying to work it ... But than again sometimes not.....
And I guess it would ba a pain and problem in my book if the big boys had
control, but if they had certain days/hours That would be ok.. But.........
In any case, it would be a joy watching them work the sticks...... You can
learn a lot that way, that is if they let you hover over them... I'd be until
they kicked me out[8D] That's something on the D/L on AFPD... I had no
problems with AFP... And now I have a few problems with G3.. But I think
it's because I don't have the base plane for G3.. And not sure if I ever will...


Got the "Do" and S.T. updated and ready for another run, not sure when,
wanted to try the new wing on the "Do" for my vib. problem, since I can't find
anything loose??? Fuse or wing(without taking covering off) But still unable to
find where I hid the belly pan[:@].... I'm sure if I missed something it'll show
itself soon[X(]... The 82 is still in there tho...

Barry.. the YS 140, may give you a bit more... What about the YS 160.. Or
Moki 180/210

raideron...

The Mokis do sound interesting. But a small gas engine does too. Not sure which one for a 13lbs airplane. But really...the Giant "feels" like a glow plane to me.

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Barry